March 7 - 28, 2003 Archive - Page 2

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tmdiva
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:40 pm Post subject: AI Addendum

I forgot to mention that I think the reason the judges were so complimentary of Julia DeMato is that she seems to have lost about 15 lbs since her semifinal round. Much less back fat/love handles, it seemed to me.

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Not_Bob
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: IRONY?

notcasesensitive wrote:
PLF might not call it irony, but I was sent an "ironic" link today with a picture of a couple of demonstrators holding a "Lesbians Against Bush" sign.

NTTAWWT. Just seems like it would hamper the old sex life.

n(plannign to catch Sorority Life and Frat Life tonight...)cs
Perhaps the demonstrators prefer the Brazillian look. Would that make them some variety of lipstick lesbians? I may be speculating, but I'm guessing (based upon their other fashion and personal grooming choices) that most of the lesbians I saw at the recent Indigo Girls concert were, um, pro-bush.

And, apropos of nothing, I apologize to Mango Lassi for piling on.
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MangoLassi
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: IRONY?

Not_Bob wrote:
And, apropos of nothing, I apologize to Mango Lassi for piling on.
Not a problem--I saw it as civilized discourse.

And, to answer Thurgreed, I will practice my quoting/formatting skills. (Also, what *is* an assjack?)
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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:49 pm Post subject: CD settlement

If you made a claim in the CD price-fixing class action, you're going to receive $12.60.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...549EST0196.DTL
Thanks to Penske for posting the link to make a claim on the FB.
[edited because it was Penske]
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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Misunderstanding

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"str8_outa_covina

This (and other Mango postings) screams of Lady Val. Sock Alert!! Sock Alert!! How many teddy bears live on your bed, Mango? Hint: writing that you're not capable of painlessly following all conversations is an admission (and in California, a statement against interest), and therefore admissible. Nevertheless, I'll try to type slowly so that you can keep up.

str(bring on Piston Hurricane)8
Str8, you couldn't be more off base. Mango's postings scream "Lady Val" about as loudly as Thurgreed's posts scream "Penske." Lady Val, whether real or sock puppet, was a simpering, sycophantic tw*t (choose your vowel) whose vocabulary and writing style suggested that "Are You There God, It's Me Margaret?" was sitting unfinished on her nightstand, beside the bubble yum wrappers and condoms pilfered from her brother's bureau. Her attempts to communicate with the FB denizens were pathetically adolescent in a junior high school cafeteria kind of way, in that she attempted to win over the people that she thought were part of the "cool" crowd by telling "wild" stories of toe debauchery and seeking their sage advice about her profound ethical quandary. And the finest riposte she could muster when rightfully and righteously flamed was some version of "Oh yeah, at least I have a boyfriend, beeyotch."

And I write all this firmly believing that Lady Val was a sock. A brilliant sock.

Nothing about Mango's posts suggests that she was Lady Val. Her posts are declarative, confident, and slightly snarky. She has opinions of her own, and she knows a little somethin' somethin' about fashion.

Plus, would PLF crave Lady Val?

But this brings me to an interesting thought. The hallmark of Lady Val was that she had no sense of irony. PLF loves irony. Was PLF Lady Val? Is he also Mango? If so, that would be brilliant. Narcissistic and twisted, but brilliant.
But what the fuck do I know? I'm almost as bad as sock busting as you are, Str8.

RP

P.S. I only edited because the quotes were messed up. I am not OCD. I am not OCD ...
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Penske_Account
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: CD settlement

Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:
If you made a claim in the CD price-fixing class action, you're going to receive $12.60.

Thanks to Penske, or Bilmore, or whoever it was that posted the link to make a claim on the FB.
You are welcome. Email me and I'll give you my P.O. Box to send the money order for $2.52 (my commission).

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MangoLassi
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 10:05 pm Post subject: A Nice Glass of Wine . . .

robustpuppy wrote:
Nothing about Mango's posts suggest that she was Lady Val. Her posts are declarative, confident, and slightly snarky. She has opinions of her own, and she knows a little somethin' somethin' about fashion.

Plus, would PLF crave Lady Val?

But this brings me to an interesting thought. The hallmark of Lady Val was that she had no sense of irony. PLF loves irony. Was PLF Lady Val? Is he also Mango? If so, that would be brilliant. Narcissistic and twisted, but brilliant.
Having spent the morning being bashed (not that I didn't deserve a bit o' cuffing), RP's kind words were even more welcome than the friendly glass I'm going to pour myself as soon as I get home. In fact, my bitchslappin' was a small price to pay for RP's tribute.

Being craved by PLF may be a fine thing, too, although we're not acquainted . . . PLF, I aim to please. (And to be Karen Walker.)

[edited to fix a tag--DT]
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:01 am Post subject: Books for the depressed

barely_legal wrote:
I read I Know This Much is True right after the bar exam. I loved it, but I would never recommend it to someone who is even mildly depressed because it's the most depressing thing I've ever read.
I can tell from the title I'd never recommend that book to anyone.

Recs for the depressed:

Schopenhauer

Epictetus

Aurelius

the Budo Shoshinshu

Thom Jones

Denis Johnson
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:05 am Post subject: Helmets only encourage the grommets

MangoLassi wrote:
I've always thought helmets should be mandatory in professional cycling.
But not amateur skiing, snowboarding, blading, or skating, it encourages the grommits to try even crazier stunts than otherwise.
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:18 am Post subject: X2: Lady Deathstrike, Logan et al.

Kelly Hu looks as in character as Hugh Jackman did. Stil I don't go for her pimping her role as Lady Deathstrike by buying ads on other sites.
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MangoLassi
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:23 am Post subject: Re: Helmets only encourage the grommets

MangoLassi wrote:
I've always thought helmets should be mandatory in professional cycling.
coupdskek wrote:
But not amateur skiing, snowboarding, blading, or skating, it encourages the grommits to try even crazier stunts than otherwise.
Speaking as one recovering from a (stupid) (amateur) road cycling head injury, I beg to differ re the wisdom of helmets. The kooks will try insane stunts regardless. Remember, they're all 18-25-year-old guys on beer & testosterone speedballs with whom the concept of death has never registered.
You will never again find me without a helmet when cycling, skiing or snowboarding. Looking breezy isn't worth the months of vomiting and depression I've just got over, let alone the far worse fate I miraculously avoided.

[edited to fix the quote codes -- Not_Bob]
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robustpuppy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:33 am Post subject: Thurgreed's Rules of English Usage

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
If you are arguing that my sentence implied that I was referring to the full spectrum and thus didn't need the word, "full," I wouldn't argue with you.
You’d find a way.

Quote:
"Very memorable" sounds stupid.
Do you read the posts aloud to yourself?

Quote:
Do you remember it? Yes. I remember it a lot.
A more apt translation would be "I remember it well."

Quote:
Can something have a bigger impact on your memory than other things? Yez.
You contradict yourself, grasshopper. In your earlier post, you compared (inaptly) memorable to unique and perfect, saying that like the latter two words, it ought not be modified. But here you admit that there is a continuum (dare I say a spectrum?) of memorableness. That is why “more” is an acceptable modifier. “Very” is equally acceptable. Like more, it indicates a greater degree. Dtb did not say “more memorable” because she was not comparing that book to another memorable book. By writing “very memorable,” she effectively conveyed that the book had a bigger impact on her memory than other non-memorable and merely memorable books.

Compare: Slave has a very purple sweater. Slave’s sweater is more purple than his chest. (It made more sense when I used “fuzzy” instead of “purple,” but one doesn’t say more fuzzy, one says fuzzier, so I changed it.)

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Now, to move on to the bigger issue here. You are pointing out my inconsistencies. I have rules and try to impose them on others but am myself, deeply flawed.
There’s a bigger issue here? I was just playing usage queen to your diction jester. I wasn’t delving into your psyche, Mr. It’s All About Me. Did your therapist cut your session off early this week? But while we’re on the topic, I will note that you've got yourself a convenient little set up with that “I fully admit to being flawed" shtick. You can just trot it out whenever anybody turns your criticism around on you, and spare yourself the trouble of worrying about any inconsistencies worth addressing (not all of them are, of course). Oh, and the ego. You're not just flawed. You're deeply flawed.

Now I'm just being snarky. I’ll admit I work that shtick myself. Deeply flawed looks good on me, and my habit of readily admitting to my own full spectrum of flaws is so charming it could break your heart. So when I'm critical, people understand. Especially the jokers on the train who think that it's OK to stand in front of the doors as long as they suck their guts in when people try to board or disembark, or the idiots who stand on the left of the escalator. When I give them a dirty look, or bark "please move to the right" they don't think I'm a bitch, because they know that I'm much harder on myself than I am on them.

And the gut sucking guys in the doorways? They're thinking that I have a nice rack and a perfect waist/hip ratio.

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I do not bitch and moan about every single grammatical error.
Well, there are only so many hours in the day, and you've got so much bitching and moaning to do about other things. And then there's that pesky lawyering that has to get done, and so many breasts to think about, and a man's gotta sleep, too.

So with that, my puppies and I bid you goodnight. I mean the actual canine puppies, not the happy orbs I carry around in my shirt. Those puppies think you're too judgmental, despite your deeply sexy flaws.

R (insomniac whose SO is out of town) P
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:36 am Post subject: Re: Helmets only encourage the grommets

MangoLassi wrote:
The kooks will try insane stunts regardless. Remember, they're all 18-25-year-old guys on beer & testosterone speedballs with whom the concept of death has never registered.
Speak for yourself. It's the sub 16 year olds you should be afraid of. Watch for flying objects when walking by sidewalks below 12+ step flights of stairs. Helmets seem popular with the most crazed.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:39 am Post subject: Random Musings

Random thoughts while watching tv, I mean working.

Da Ali G Show: It was off the hook this week. The fashion stuff was brilliant. (Hate to admit it, but Thurgreed was right in his praise.)

American Idol: A little surprised by who was eliminated, but not surprised by the bottom 3. She was too much in the middle to get much notice. Kim L is on the block though if she doesn't step up.

Nike basketball ad featuring the guards: I love this ad and I cannot get the stupid song out of my head. According to the SO, I "sing" it when I am doing stuff.

Penske, the commission is mine. I posted it on the infirm FB, so stop trying to take credit for what I do (all the time).

Even(oh, and it looks like we're not moving.)Odds
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:39 am Post subject: Re: Thurgreed's Rules of English Usage

robustpuppy wrote:
I was just playing usage queen to your diction jester.
Nice line.

robustpuppy wrote:
Well, there are only so many hours in the day
And you claim to be an insomniac.
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Leagleaze
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:42 am Post subject:

You know, TM, I was concerned. Concerned about whether you would find a new sparring partner, though admittedly our sparring was rare. I see now my concern was unwarranted.

What a relief
I will note however that I was not very concerned.
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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:43 am Post subject: Re: CD settlement

Penske_Account wrote:
Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:
If you made a claim in the CD price-fixing class action, you're going to receive $12.60.

Thanks to Penske, or Bilmore, or whoever it was that posted the link to make a claim on the FB.
You are welcome. Email me and I'll give you my P.O. Box to send the money order for $2.52 (my commission).

My plan was to buy another disk and let you listen to it. You can either come to SF, or give me a call and I'll hold the phone next to the stereo. No collect calls, please.

Same offer goes for you, EO.
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MangoLassi
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:43 am Post subject: Re: Helmets only encourage the grommets

coupdskek wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:
The kooks will try insane stunts regardless. Remember, they're all 18-25-year-old guys on beer & testosterone speedballs with whom the concept of death has never registered.
Speak for yourself.
Yep, speaking for myself, that's pretty much my policy. Here, for example, I'm neither (1) male, (2) sub-25 y.o., nor (3) on a testosterone spike. (You'll notice I'm conspicuously silent re beer.)
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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:56 am Post subject:

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RP: Especially the jokers on the train who think that it's OK to stand in front of the doors as long as they suck their guts in when people try to board or disembark.
Hey, if you want to give me your seat, stand where you want, but otherwise I'm going to lean against the partition so I can read my book. So pipe down.

Quote:
RP: And the gut sucking guys in the doorways? They're thinking that I have a nice rack and a perfect waist/hip ratio.
That was you?
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tmdiva
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:10 am Post subject: Bye bye Vanessa

Well, Vanessa was robbed, but only by a couple of weeks. She definitely wasn't going to be in the top five in any case.

I'm just really really bummed that I'm going to have to hear Julia DeMato (not to mention Charles Grigsby and Corey Clark) again. Bleah.

tm
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str8_outa_covina
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:17 am Post subject:

That's what the mute button is for tmdiva, or (gasp) seeing what's on other channels.

I'm shocked and stunned, but only in the sense that my prediction was wrong (i.e. it wasn't Charles or Julia), and I agree with tmdiva that she was no way no how a top 5er. . But there's 10 more of these weeks, which draws it out into May sweeps. Will we stay with it? Fox has won 6 rating weeks in a row, btw.

Speaking of great TV moments and my former home state, did anyone see Sports Center last night where Jim Calhoun absolutely went off on an (off-screen) young female reporter, because she was asking questions that were inappropriate for her age and gender. She asked what he was going to do to prepare the team for the NCAAs after the 'Nova loss, and he said something to the effect of (and not in a nice way): "You know, you ask a lot of those kinda questions. You're too young to be asking those kinda (bleeping) questions. These older guys, they can ask those questions."

To the young lady's eternal credit, she didn't back down and kept at him to give her an answer. It was really a remarkable exchange involving one of the foremost leaders in all of women's sports.

str(go you Huskies)8
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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:29 am Post subject:

Do you mean Geno Auriemma?

Calhoun is the coach of the men's team.

[edited 'cause I can't spell]
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:55 am Post subject:

str8_outa_covina wrote:
Speaking of great TV moments and my former home state, did anyone see Sports Center last night where Jim Calhoun absolutely went off on an (off-screen) young female reporter, because she was asking questions that were inappropriate for her age and gender. She asked what he was going to do to prepare the team for the NCAAs after the 'Nova loss, and he said something to the effect of (and not in a nice way): "You know, you ask a lot of those kinda questions. You're too young to be asking those kinda (bleeping) questions. These older guys, they can ask those questions."

To the young lady's eternal credit, she didn't back down and kept at him to give her an answer. It was really a remarkable exchange involving one of the foremost leaders in all of women's sports.
Of course, I saw it.

That was awesome -- and I thought he handled himself well in the face of some really stupid questions, like how can they recover from their first loss in 70 games in time for the tournament and how will the freshmen who have never lost respond.
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Jack_Manfred
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:35 am Post subject:

sebastian_dangerfield wrote:
The Clash lacked the balls of real punk .... The Clash was punk for the radio - smarter, enlightened "thinking man's" rebellion..... The Clash was for American white kids who didn't even know what the hell they were singing about...
SD is talking out of his ass here. Until "Rock the Casbah," The Clash had a helluva time getting radio play. CBS wouldn't even release The Clash in the U.S. because it was certain that it wouldn't get radio airplay. That's the reason that the album became the best selling import of all time. Granted, Sandanista may be a sprawling mess, and Combat Rock is garbage, but the Clash (1) deserve to be in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, (2) made some great records, and (3) inspired a lot of the bands you love.

Lost in all of the Sex Pistols v. The Clash discussion has been any credit given to The Jam or The Buzzcocks.... and that's just plain wrong. This Is The Modern World and Singles Going Steady still stand the test of time. They're every bit as influential as The Sex Pistols and the songs are good.

Onto other topics... I like both the "Personal Jesus" and the "Hurt" covers that Johnny Cash did. The video for "Hurt" is actually moving. It's got a lot of clips of Cash from back in the day, and to see them intercut with (a) a lot of Christ imagery and (b) footage of a feeble Cash really works.

Warren Zevon is dying of inoperable lung cancer. It's a shame. He did a great set on Letterman late lasy year. Zevon has a good attitude about his mortality, which is all you can hope for, I suppose.

In a related story, George Miller, the comic and Letterman fixture, died recently at 61 after a battle with leukemia.

paigow_princess wrote:
Morrissey sucks. Elvis Costello sucks.
Paigow you ignorant slut. The Smiths were a great band. They were the great British band of the 80's. What's interesting now is that Morrissey's biggest fans aren't pale Brits or Goths...they're Mexicans. Morrissey had a huge show with Los Jaguares in Los Angeles last year. Weird, huh?

Elvis Costello recorded My Aim Is True, This Year's Model, and Armed Forces in the span of about 18 months. That's one of the most amazing bursts of creativity in modern music. It's patently unfair to blame Elvis Costello for wanky British new wave bands like Kajagoogoo.

Oh, and thanks to Leagl, Slave, and MR for bringing the board back.

Jack Manfred
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Pretty_Little_Flower
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am Post subject: Re: A Nice Glass of Wine . . .

MangoLassi wrote:
robustpuppy wrote:
The hallmark of Lady Val was that she had no sense of irony. PLF loves irony. Was PLF Lady Val? Is he also Mango? If so, that would be brilliant. Narcissistic and twisted, but brilliant.
Being craved by PLF may be a fine thing, too, although we're not acquainted . . . PLF, I aim to please. (And to be Karen Walker.)

[edited to fix a tag--DT]
Puppy, you have hit the nail on the head with your twisted but brilliant narcissist theory. I am all of those things. Your socking speculation, however, is unfounded. My feet are bare.

Mango Lassi, I still crave you, your little spat with Thurgreed notwithstanding. That you aim to please is admirable. A necessary (if not sufficient) trait. Continue to wear your bike helmet. I got over the whole "not wearing my helmet today" thing when I was mountain biking and found my friend lying in the trail with an unseemly amount of blood pouring down his face. Fortunately, dirt is a little more forgiving than asphalt. He was fine (except for the scalp stitches, dislocated shoulder, cracked ribs, and messed up back). When we got to the hospital, the doctor said: "You were riding without a helmet, huh? Bikers who ride without helmets are some of our best organ donors."
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Pretty_Little_Flower
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:49 am Post subject: Cure? No. Smiths? No. "Joy" Division. Now tha

Jack_Manfred wrote:
SD is talking out of his ass here.

* * * * *

Paigow you ignorant slut. The Smiths were a great band. They were the great British band of the 80's. What's interesting now is that Morrissey's biggest fans aren't pale Brits or Goths...they're Mexicans. Morrissey had a huge show with Los Jaguares in Los Angeles last year. Weird, huh?
SD may or may not be talking out his ass, but the thread started with SD querying why it is such blasphemy to admit that you don't think the Clash are the greatest fucking band in the whole fucking world. He was goaded into more vitriolic skewering, but I think his original pont is a good one. The Clash were good songwriters, a lot of what they did was ahead of their time, but they were never my cup of tea. And, whether you think the Sex Pistols were brilliant revolutionaries or Malcom McLaren's junkie clown puppets, I have never heard a Clash song that has the same visceral impact of any of the better five or six songs on Never Mind The Bollocks.

I will not weigh in on the Morrissey/Elvis Costello debate other than to say:

1. I agree with Paigow.

2. The Mexican Morrissey cult is weird weird weird. I read that article in Spin about it.

"Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalison . . . " Oh, Jesus, take me now.
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bold_n_brazen
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:12 am Post subject: All American Girl

Did anybody watch All American Girl last night? Mr. Brazen was taking a flying lesson and I got sucked into this show after AI.

But I still can't figure out the point....

Bn'B
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Not_Bob
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:40 am Post subject: The angels wanna wear my red shoes

Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
I will not weigh in on the Morrissey/Elvis Costello debate other than to say:

1. I agree with Paigow.

2. The Mexican Morrissey cult is weird weird weird. I read that article in Spin about it.

"Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalison . . . " Oh, Jesus, take me now.
There's a fun little teen movie called "Get Over It" that has been all over cable the last few weeks. In the audition scene, the Eurotrash bad guy completes his theft of our hero's girl by singing "Alison" to her. (Her name is Alison, natch.) Each of the 458 times I have seen that scene while channel surfing, I think of PLF.

I do not understand the Flower's disdain for Elvis. Maybe one can hear "Alison" too often. Heck, when playing "Born to Run," I skip the title track (and repeat "Thunder Road," but that's a different story). But "Watching the Detectives"? "What's So Funny Bout Peace Love and Understanding"? "Every Day I Write the Book"?

Jesus, Flower, what did you listen to in 1983? Asia?
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:57 am Post subject: Gift Ideas for One-Year old

What does one get the one-year old that has everything? I've already knitted him two sweaters in his short life, so am not going to give him another one yet. This kid is drowning in toys, so I don't really want to get him another one. He loves the three stooges, so I was thinking of getting him a video of that, but he is already laughing too much at other's misfortune (like when he burst out laughing at the kid in his playgroup who slipped and fell), so I think his mom would be annoyed at me for encouraging that behavior (and his mom is one of my best friends). I'm kind of stumped. His birthday is two Saturdays from now. Maybe I should get something for the parents? A contribution to a 529 plan? Should I ask the lawyers with kids board? Any ideas would be much appreciated.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:05 am Post subject: Robust Puppy's brilliance

robustpuppy wrote:
Lapdog: [Blah, blah, blah - dtb was right and you were wrong about "very memorable". Here's why: blah, blah, blah. Why am I so consumed with this point that I would draft a ten page post about it after midnight? Your guess is as good as mine. I'm sure you have some ideas.]

I will note that you've got yourself a convenient little set up with that “I fully admit to being flawed" shtick. You can just trot it out whenever anybody turns your criticism around on you, and spare yourself the trouble of worrying about any inconsistencies worth addressing (not all of them are, of course). Oh, and the ego. You're not just flawed. You're deeply flawed.
This part of your post was brilliant. It's one of those I'll damn him if he does, damn him if he doesn't responses. Clearly I'm not an authority on anything. But I express my opinions on many things. If I act like I'm an expert on all things and am walking perfection, I have a huge ego. If I admit that I'm full of shit (which most posters already know, you colossal twit), then I have a huge ego.

But you know what? I couldn't care less if you think I have a huge ego, you've already made it all about me by taking so much time posting about me when you should be drinking, fucking, sleeping eating or otherwise living what surely amounts to an empty life. Don't give me that "I'm an insomniac whose SO is out of town, so I figured I would post about some stupid little issue that everyone besides me has read and moved past." If I went home and spent my nights in front of the computer then I could criticize everything. You're right. But I have things to do.

Dtb's (who I mess with often on this board and by email and at lunch) "very memorable" hurt my ears. In the context in which it was used, it sounded horrible. My opinion? No shit. I used it as an example to point out a trend of modifying words that shouldn't be modified. It may have been grammatically correct and I conceded that point on this board and to her when she sent me the email she always sends when I'm being me. That doesn't change the fact that I didn't like it.

So. What's up your tight little asshole? Well, I think you need more attention than me. The funny thing is, you want it from me. (Uh, oh. All about me again?)

ThurgreedMarshall

evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:29 AM

barely_legal
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Joined: 10 Mar 2003
Posts: 39
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:08 am Post subject: Sorority Life

Okay, I got sucked into yet another reality program. And I hate every person on this show. Is that the purpose of the show? After watching the first three episodes, I feel completely vindicated in the choice I made ten years ago (oh god, I'm really getting old) to stay the hell away from sororities.

Can someone who was actually in a sorority and watches this show tell me if this is actually in any way an accurate representation of what they are like, or is it typical blown out of proportion reality tv schlock?

L-P, didn't you post that you were in a sorority? did y'all decorate your doors with colorful posters with your names on them and make your pledges pick up your drunk asses after a night of bar hopping (actually, that was the only cool part -- I need me some bitches, I mean "pledges")
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Pretty_Little_Flower
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:14 am Post subject: Re: The angels wanna wear my red shoes

Not_Bob wrote:
I do not understand the Flower's disdain for Elvis. Maybe one can hear "Alison" too often. Heck, when playing "Born to Run," I skip the title track (and repeat "Thunder Road," but that's a different story). But "Watching the Detectives"? "What's So Funny Bout Peace Love and Understanding"? "Every Day I Write the Book"?

Jesus, Flower, what did you listen to in 1983? Asia?
Asia? Ouch, dude. That's rough. As I have admitted offline, I think Elvis is a talented enough performer, but he just does not do it for me. The tunes you mention do not evoke fond memories. In fact, until reading your post, I had forgotten how much I hate that Every Day I Write the Book song. But, hey, I have listened to a lot of crap in my day. I cringe when going through my CD collection, and I purchased a hell of a lot of terrible music before I ever started listening to CDs.

As to what I was listening to in 1983, I seem to recall that I had pretty much tuned out of contemporary music. At the time, I had a continuing obsession with the Rolling Stones, so they were in heavy rotation. In addition, I was becoming increasingly fanatical about jazz. I think around that time period I was in a particularly pretentious phase of my jazz appreciation when I decided that real jazz fans were listening to free jazz, the more alienating the better. So, I was listening to obscure Ornette Coleman, Eric Dolphy, etc. Check out an Ornette Coleman album called The Empty Foxhole sometime. If you think his saxophone work is out there, that's because you have not heard him on violin. I also began getting into some two tone ska, like the Beat, the Specials, etc., although this may have been more around 1984 or 85. It was not until later in the 80s that I began to discover all the great early hip hop and hardcore that existed in the early 80s.

Are you sorry you asked?
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pursejunkie
What's in a rank?

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Location: playing with the dog
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:25 am Post subject: Frat Life

Has anyone watched this besides just sorority life? While the girls seem to be basically having fun pledging, the guys are doing all these miserable high-school-jock initiation rituals. Why all the weird macho-yet-homoerotic flirting with metrosexuality? And I count myself really messy, but wouldn't you figure Darwin would kill off at least half the guys living in such gross filth? How do they ever get any--do their girlfriends just drag them over to their own places rather'n wallow at the frat?

Genuinely curious. I went to a women's college where all this stuff was just alien.
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EvenOdds
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:34 am Post subject:

Pretty Little Flower wrote:
I also began getting into some two tone ska, like the Beat, the Specials, etc., although this may have been more around 1984 or 85.
I am so glad to hear someone else mention the Beat. I think you're right with '83 because my (albeit bad) memory was that this was before I was in high school. I also loved Adam & the Ants and later PIL (though this was 84 or 85 because I had a friend who would bring back british music mags and unreleased in the US albums).

For the record, I loved Elvis Costello back in the day and never got the whole Morrissey thing.
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Not_Bob
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Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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Location: Podunkville
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:36 am Post subject: Re: The angels wanna wear my red shoes

Not_Bob wrote:
Jesus, Flower, what did you listen to in 1983? Asia?
Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
Asia? Ouch, dude. That's rough.
I know. I was just throwing them out there as an example of what was on the radio at the time.

Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
As I have admitted offline, I think Elvis is a talented enough performer, but he just does not do it for me. The tunes you mention do not evoke fond memories. In fact, until reading your post, I had forgotten how much I hate that Every Day I Write the Book song.
Fair enough. I will no longer bug you about it. (But how can you not like a line like "you said you'd stand by me in the middle of chapter 3, but you were up to your old tricks by chapters 4, 5, and 6"?)

Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
As to what I was listening to in 1983, I seem to recall that I had pretty much tuned out of contemporary music. At the time, I had a continuing obsession with the Rolling Stones, so they were in heavy rotation.
"Corporate rock" was all over the place in Podunkville at the time. Asia, Journey, etc. And I didn't like AC/DC, Judas Priest, or the metal bands that were starting to get some airplay. So, it was the Doors, the Stones and Springsteen for me.

Then the punk rock girl turned me on to Elvis, Depeche Mode, Squeeze, the Pretenders, and Prince's "Controversy." Strong stuff for a boy from Podunkville. None of it available on the radio. Thank God for Martha Quinn and MTV.

Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
Are you sorry you asked?
Nah. I got no kick against modern jazz. Unless they play it too darn fast.
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bold_n_brazen
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Location: At the Gas n' Sip
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

barely_legal wrote:
Can someone who was actually in a sorority and watches this show tell me if this is actually in any way an accurate representation of what they are like, or is it typical blown out of proportion reality tv schlock?

OK. I admit it. I was in a sorority. But I need to clarify that I was in a sorority in the mid-1980's which I believe was an entirely different experience than the sorority experience of today.

My best memories of life in the sorority house include getting so fucked up on mushrooms that I made another sister remove the big coke mirror from the room because I couldn't be sure it was my reflection and not my evil twin's reflection I was seeing, losing my underwear in the FIJI house, dancing naked on the front porch not once but twice the weekend that I graduated, having sex in the first floor telephone booth because my roommate had done the same thing the week before, puking off the roof onto the house mother's car, and other sundry events invloving either booze, drugs, or casual sex.

Nowadays it seems, drugs and alcohol are discouraged by sororities and casual sex doesn't seem to exist on colleg campuses. Why anyone would want to go to college, let alone join a greek letter organization, in today's day and age is a complete mystery to me. (Except for that shit about an education and blah blah blah).

That said, being in a sorority did involved some contruction paper signage on my door for rush, etc. and did involve, from time to time, the blowing up of helium balloons. I did (and ocaisioanlly still do) wear my letters, I can still sing the greek alphabet and several sorority songs at differing levels of "dirtiness". I believe I own a stuffed version of my sorority's mascot and have a sorority sister who still sends me bouquets of our sorority flower for every life event. I can still say my sorority prayer, and when I attend an initiation (which happened quite a lot for a while as I was serving as a grown-up advisor to a local chapter) I still get teary eyed.

But these girls on MTV? First of all, they are skanks. Second of all, no pledges live in a house IRL. Third of all, DZO isn't even a national sorority. Fourth of all, this show exists just so that people who didn't join sororities can feel smug about their choice.

Bn'(humming dirty sorority drinking song in my head now)B
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bold_n_brazen
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:50 am Post subject:

EvenOdds wrote:
Pretty Little Flower wrote:
I also began getting into some two tone ska, like the Beat, the Specials, etc., although this may have been more around 1984 or 85.
I am so glad to hear someone else mention the Beat. I think you're right with '83 because my (albeit bad) memory was that this was before I was in high school. I also loved Adam & the Ants and later PIL (though this was 84 or 85 because I had a friend who would bring back british music mags and unreleased in the US albums).

For the record, I loved Elvis Costello back in the day and never got the whole Morrissey thing.
Ooooooh. I liked the Beat too. And Big Audio Dynomite. And Split Enz.

You know who I never "got"? Yaz. That stupid album "Upstair at Erics" that everyone played incessantly my freshman year of college...

As I recall, I was also totally obsessed with The Who in 1984. And the Hooters (but that is probably a Philly thing).

Bn'(and Madonna a little bit...I admit this)B
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soup_sandwich
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Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Robust Puppy's brilliance

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
robustpuppy wrote:
Lapdog: [Blah, blah, blah - dtb was right and you were wrong about "very memorable". Here's why: blah, blah, blah. Why am I so consumed with this point that I would draft a ten page post about it after midnight? Your guess is as good as mine. I'm sure you have some ideas.]

I will note that you've got yourself a convenient little set up with that “I fully admit to being flawed" shtick. You can just trot it out whenever anybody turns your criticism around on you, and spare yourself the trouble of worrying about any inconsistencies worth addressing (not all of them are, of course). Oh, and the ego. You're not just flawed. You're deeply flawed.
This part of your post was brilliant. It's one of those I'll damn him if he does, damn him if he doesn't responses. Clearly I'm not an authority on anything. But I express my opinions on many things. If I act like I'm an expert on all things and am walking perfection, I have a huge ego. If I admit that I'm full of shit (which most posters already know, you colossal twit), then I have a huge ego.

But you know what? I couldn't care less if you think I have a huge ego, you've already made it all about me by taking so much time posting about me when you should be drinking, fucking, sleeping eating or otherwise living what surely amounts to an empty life. Don't give me that "I'm an insomniac whose SO is out of town, so I figured I would post about some stupid little issue that everyone besides me has read and moved past." If I went home and spent my nights in front of the computer then I could criticize everything. You're right. But I have things to do.

Dtb's (who I mess with often on this board and by email and at lunch) "very memorable" hurt my ears. In the context in which it was used, it sounded horrible. My opinion? No shit. I used it as an example to point out a trend of modifying words that shouldn't be modified. It may have been grammatically correct and I conceded that point on this board and to her when she sent me the email she always sends when I'm being me. That doesn't change the fact that I didn't like it.

So. What's up your tight little asshole? Well, I think you need more attention than me. The funny thing is, you want it from me. (Uh, oh. All about me again?)

ThurgreedMarshall
This post is sweet. It's got everything. All kinds of rants/attacks.

There's the "I don't care what you think, I'm entitled to my opinion".

There's the "I have better things to do than sit in front of computer all the time".

But conversely, it also has the "if you paid attention and read my posts you would already know this".

There's also the "because you replied to my post you must be craving attention from me".

But my favorite part is at the end where RP is gently reminded that there are things that happen offline (like lunch!) to which RP is not privy.

The only thing missing was the "who are you?" or the "if you had ever posted something memorable I'd take you more seriously".

I think we all should be able to simply refer to this post in the future when we feel like making arguments without substance.
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greatwhitenorthchick
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:13 pm Post subject:

Reading the posts about sororities has put that song in my head that starts out "Muffy in the bathroom stall" from Trading Places.

The trouble is, I can only remember a few lines:

"Muffy in the bathroom stall,

[Bunny] by the lake,

(blah blah blah)

Constance on the make

(Blah blah blah)

Constance would fulfill your needs,

Winter, Spring or Fall.

If someone would please fill in the blanks for me, I would be very grateful. Google is no help.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: Gift Ideas for One-Year old

greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
What does one get the one-year old that has everything? . . . He loves the three stooges, so I was thinking of getting him a video of that, but he is already laughing too much at other's misfortune (like when he burst out laughing at the kid in his playgroup who slipped and fell), so I think his mom would be annoyed at me for encouraging that behavior (and his mom is one of my best friends).
I really like this kid.

One can never have too many educational toys. Or you can be preemptive and get him the smallest size hockey skates around, for when he grows into them?
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Random Musings

EvenOdds wrote:
Random thoughts while watching tv, I mean working.

Da Ali G Show: It was off the hook this week. The fashion stuff was brilliant. (Hate to admit it, but Thurgreed was right in his praise.)

American Idol: A little surprised by who was eliminated, but not surprised by the bottom 3. She was too much in the middle to get much notice. Kim L is on the block though if she doesn't step up.

Nike basketball ad featuring the guards: I love this ad and I cannot get the stupid song out of my head. According to the SO, I "sing" it when I am doing stuff.

Penske, the commission is mine. I posted it on the infirm FB, so stop trying to take credit for what I do (all the time).

Even(oh, and it looks like we're not moving.)Odds

As I missed half of the Tuesday AI, I had no idea who was the absolute worst. However, I did catch the little mini recaps, and as soonas I saw (without really hearing) the Kelly Osbourne wannabe chick, I knew she was toast. Kelly Osbourne is more overexploited than the Freinds were after their first season. ANything that looks like her is a turnoff. She had to go. That simple.

Did they announce things kind of in the order of the votes? Lke Ruben came in first and was called first? and that carmen came in fourth to last? I am assuming yes. I think Ruben's win is a foregone conclusion.

How come black people are such better singers thatn white people? I dont mean this in a Randy and Mortay "They are very musical people" kind of way, but its just that the black contestants blow everyone else off the map. not even close.
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ThrashersFan
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Gift Ideas for One-Year old

str8_outa_covina wrote:
greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
What does one get the one-year old that has everything? . . . He loves the three stooges, so I was thinking of getting him a video of that, but he is already laughing too much at other's misfortune (like when he burst out laughing at the kid in his playgroup who slipped and fell), so I think his mom would be annoyed at me for encouraging that behavior (and his mom is one of my best friends).
I really like this kid.

One can never have too many educational toys. Or you can be preemptive and get him the smallest size hockey skates around, for when he grows into them.
I bought skates for my son when he was around 1. I think it is Bauer that makes them small enough (although I am pretty sure that CCM does too). I am also aware that a company in Buffalo still makes those old two-blade strap-ons for kids. Many people believe that children should never use the multi-blade skates to learn but when I was a wee lass up north I began my hockey-chick career on double-bladed strap-on skates and it did not hinder my ability to go to single blades. Old age, too much beer and a slight (self-diagnosed) psychosis have, however, had a dramatic effect on my skating ability.

Thrashers(we play the Habs tonight which is great because I get to sing the Canadian anthem which as I child I thought was played at every hockey match but down here is only played when we host a team from Canada)Fan

p.s. My apologies if I screwed up this response thing. I rarely posted on the "old" board and this is my first time here (ohhhhh, I feel almost virginal) so I am still trying to figure it all out.
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ThrashersFan
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Gift Ideas for One-Year old

str8_outa_covina wrote:
greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
What does one get the one-year old that has everything? . . . He loves the three stooges, so I was thinking of getting him a video of that, but he is already laughing too much at other's misfortune (like when he burst out laughing at the kid in his playgroup who slipped and fell), so I think his mom would be annoyed at me for encouraging that behavior (and his mom is one of my best friends).
I really like this kid.

One can never have too many educational toys. Or you can be preemptive and get him the smallest size hockey skates around, for when he grows into them.
I bought skates for my son when he was around 1. I think it is Bauer that makes them small enough (although I am pretty sure that CCM does too). I am also aware that a company in Buffalo still makes those old two-blade strap-ons for kids. Many people believe that children should never use the multi-blade skates to learn but when I was a wee lass up north I began my hockey-chick career on double-bladed strap-on skates and it did not hinder my ability to go to single blades. Old age, too much beer and a slight (self-diagnosed) psychosis have, however, had a dramatic effect on my skating ability.

Thrashers(we play the Habs tonight which is great because I get to sing the Canadian anthem which as I child I thought was played at every hockey match -- at least on my border town it was -- but down here is only played when we host a team from Canada)Fan

p.s. My apologies if I screwed up this response thing. I rarely posted on the "old" board and this is my first time here (ohhhhh, I feel almost virginal) so I am still trying to figure it all out.
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:49 pm Post subject:

Jack_Manfred wrote:
paigow_princess wrote:
a related story, George Miller, the comic and Letterman fixture, died recently at 61 after a battle with leukemia.
paigow_princess wrote:
Morrissey sucks. Elvis Costello sucks.
Paigow you ignorant slut. The Smiths were a great band. They were the great British band of the 80's. What's interesting now is that Morrissey's biggest fans aren't pale Brits or Goths...they're Mexicans. Morrissey had a huge show with Los Jaguares in Los Angeles last year. Weird, huh?

Elvis Costello recorded My Aim Is True, This Year's Model, and Armed Forces in the span of about 18 months. That's one of the most amazing bursts of creativity in modern music. It's patently unfair to blame Elvis Costello for wanky British new wave bands like Kajagoogoo.

Oh, and thanks to Leagl, Slave, and MR for bringing the board back.

Jack Manfred
First, wno was George Miller exactly?

Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.

Elvis Costello? He speaks for himself. Alilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllissssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. God. He sucks. Remember that horrid episdoe of Melrose Place with that song?
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evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:29 AM

barely_legal
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

bold_n_brazen wrote:
My best memories of life in the sorority house include getting so fucked up on mushrooms that I made another sister remove the big coke mirror from the room because I couldn't be sure it was my reflection and not my evil twin's reflection I was seeing, losing my underwear in the FIJI house, dancing naked on the front porch not once but twice the weekend that I graduated, having sex in the first floor telephone booth because my roommate had done the same thing the week before, puking off the roof onto the house mother's car, and other sundry events invloving either booze, drugs, or casual sex.

But these girls on MTV? First of all, they are skanks. Second of all, no pledges live in a house IRL. Third of all, DZO isn't even a national sorority. Fourth of all, this show exists just so that people who didn't join sororities can feel smug about their choice.

Bn'(humming dirty sorority drinking song in my head now)B
So what's your defintion of skank? Someone who doesn't engage in sundry events involfing either booze, drugs, or casual sex?

And if the goal of the show is to make me smug -- then it's a rousing success.
[Edited to fix code -- E/O]
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EvenOdds
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Random Musings

paigowprincess wrote:
As I missed half of the Tuesday AI, I had no idea who was the absolute worst. However, I did catch the little mini recaps, and as soonas I saw (without really hearing) the Kelly Osbourne wannabe chick, I knew she was toast. Kelly Osbourne is more overexploited than the Freinds were after their first season. ANything that looks like her is a turnoff. She had to go. That simple.

Did they announce things kind of in the order of the votes? Lke Ruben came in first and was called first? and that carmen came in fourth to last? I am assuming yes. I think Ruben's win is a foregone conclusion.

How come black people are such better singers thatn white people? I dont mean this in a Randy and Mortay "They are very musical people" kind of way, but its just that the black contestants blow everyone else off the map. not even close.
They did not announce the order of the votes. With the way they place the kids on the seats, it becomes obvious who the last four will be.

I am not convinced Ruben will win it all. We have 9 weeks or so for the big Ruben backlash to begin and for someone else to come on strong. That said, he can have a career and make some good money in hip-hop singing hooks if this AI thing doesn't work out for him.

As for why it appears on the show that black people are better singers, though I am not sure I agree, the black singers I have encountered began singing in church at a high level when they were very, very young, so perhaps they have more practice.

Even(I am living proof that musical talent is not genetic.)Odds
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lawyer_princess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:15 pm Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

Everything that bnb said sounds exactly right. The local group on SL bears little resemblance to national sororities of the 80s.
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: Robust Puppy's brilliance

soup_sandwich wrote:
The only thing missing was the "who are you?" or the "if you had ever posted something memorable I'd take you more seriously".
Who are you? Maybe if you ever posted something memorable I'd take you more seriously.

soup_sandwich wrote:
I think we all should be able to simply refer to this post in the future when we feel like making arguments without substance.
I think that's a good idea. Unfortunately, you and this post aren't very memorable, so I'm afraid no one will remember this tip.

TM
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ToasterMan
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:35 pm Post subject:

Quote:
Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.
Found the new board. Thanks to all who brought us this new place of freedom.

PP, why do I have this sinking feeling that I know you? On the other hand, you do sound like at least 25% of Yale women from that era. NTTAWWT, but it explains a lot. (Not sure which closet eyeliner wearing pussy you are talking about -- there are too many possibilities. I always thought that nothing was in the closet at Yale, but I discovered in the intervening years that there were even more of us than I thought.)
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:44 pm Post subject:

ToasterMan wrote:
Quote:
Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.
Found the new board. Thanks to all who brought us this new place of freedom.

PP, why do I have this sinking feeling that I know you? On the other hand, you do sound like at least 25% of Yale women from that era. NTTAWWT, but it explains a lot. (Not sure which closet eyeliner wearing pussy you are talking about -- there are too many possibilities. I always thought that nothing was in the closet at Yale, but I discovered in the intervening years that there were even more of us than I thought.)
Toaster! Glad you made it.

As for the term "eurofag", I posted it bc I was reminded of just how obnoxious college kids were back then. I dont think it was meant to refer to people who were gay so much as people who would now be called "goth" (a term that was not around in my day). Bit high school kids in the eighties probably thought everyone who wasnt just liek them was gay (or a fag- see Spicoli in Fast Times At Ridgemont High). I know that some of these goth types from my high school are in fact straight but were still called "eurofags". Kids tease each mercilessly and relentlessly about the most horrid things. So, I was sort of mocking that as much as I was mocking the Morissey fans themselves.

I have the feeling for some reason that you are a couple of years older than me (from past posts?) but dont know why I think this and could be offbase. But I was one of the chicks who listened to the dead, smoked a lot of dope and ate the sweet cream and oreos at Ashleys at every opportunity if that narrows me down at all. I am sure the pretentious pseudo euro (my term for these types) Morissey types has great disdain for us and just as obnoxious nicknames. But we stayed away from eachotehr like the plague. Very bloods and crips, really.
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ThurgreedMarshall
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:45 pm Post subject: Trading Places

I can only help with a couple of lines.

greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
"Muffy in the bathroom stall,

[Bunny] by the lake,

(blah blah blah)

Constance on the make

Constance Fry...Constance Fry

Anytime you call
Constance would fulfill your needs,

Winter, Spring or Fall.
Thurgreed(And she stepped on the bahll)Marshall
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infinitytrack
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:45 pm Post subject:

paigowprincess wrote:
First, wno was George Miller exactly?

Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.

Elvis Costello? He speaks for himself. Alilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllissssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. God. He sucks. Remember that horrid episdoe of Melrose Place with that song?
Sorry Paigs. That was me.

We know you prefer the pot smoking genres of music, e.g., Black Crowes and the Dead. The preppy slumming variety.
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TexLex
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Gift Ideas for One-Year old

greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
What does one get the one-year old that has everything? . . . He loves the three stooges, so I was thinking of getting him a video of that, but he is already laughing too much at other's misfortune (like when he burst out laughing at the kid in his playgroup who slipped and fell), so I think his mom would be annoyed at me for encouraging that behavior (and his mom is one of my best friends).
My vote is a children's book he can grow into - and don't forget to inscribe it with something like, "with love on your first birthday, Auntie Gwinchy." First birthdays are special - if it was a girl I would say a locket or something (but I'm not rehashing that argument, TM). In other words, something that's not going into the garage sale next year.

Skates are wonderful, but if he's just learning to walk - probably not the best option. Save it for later years.

My personal recommendation: http://trmg.designwest.com/ A book he can give to his kids - always a classic.

-TL
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:46 pm Post subject:

greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Reading the posts about sororities has put that song in my head that starts out "Muffy in the bathroom stall" from Trading Places.

The trouble is, I can only remember a few lines:

"Muffy in the bathroom stall,

[Bunny] by the lake,

(blah blah blah)

Constance on the make

(Blah blah blah)

Constance would fulfill your needs,

Winter, Spring or Fall.

If someone would please fill in the blanks for me, I would be very grateful. Google is no help.
Ican help a little on the Constance paragraph.

Constance Frye (thats a guess in all honesty(, Constance Frye

Any time you call
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Not_Bob
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

barely_legal wrote:
So what's your defintion of skank? Someone who doesn't engage in sundry events involfing either booze, drugs, or casual sex?

And if the goal of the show is to make me smug -- then it's a rousing success.
Ok, now I am singing "The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks." Thanks, b-l. (and like *you* need help in being smug)

Perhaps bn'b's point was that there's a difference bewteen engaging in the sex and drugs and rock and roll lifestyle of the sorrrrrority girl of the 1980s, and doing the same thing (or something similar) while being followed by a film crew for national TV. Knowing that your antics will grace a TV show watched by people back home. People who will say things to your Grandma and Aunt Bea at the Price Chopper about the skilled and practiced nipple-licking techniques you displayed when MTV showed you doing tequila body shots with the bikers. NTTAWWT.
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: Trading Places

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
I can only help with a couple of lines.

greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
"Muffy in the bathroom stall,

[Bunny] by the lake,

(blah blah blah)

Constance on the make

Constance Fry...Constance Fry

Anytime you call
Constance would fulfill your needs,

Winter, Spring or Fall.
Thurgreed(And she stepped on the bahll)Marshall
Ahnd you smell.

(the other greatest comedy of all time)
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TexLex
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:52 pm Post subject: Elvis

paigowprincess wrote:
Elvis Costello? He speaks for himself. Alilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllissssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. God. He sucks. Remember that horrid episdoe of Melrose Place with that song?
I don't dislike Elvis Costello by any means - I saw him play here once (it was a very good show), but I tend to agree with PP as to the Allison song - it is overrated, overplayed, and just plain annoying. It is one of the few songs that will make me leap to change the station.

-TL
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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Robust Puppy's brilliance

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
I couldn't care less if you think I have a huge ego, you've already made it all about me by taking so much time posting about me when you should be drinking, fucking, sleeping eating or . . . .
I thought this was such a good point that I decided to skip to the next post. And I've never looked back!
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ToasterMan
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:07 pm Post subject:

paigowprincess wrote:
ToasterMan wrote:
Quote:
Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.
Found the new board. Thanks to all who brought us this new place of freedom.

PP, why do I have this sinking feeling that I know you? On the other hand, you do sound like at least 25% of Yale women from that era. NTTAWWT, but it explains a lot. (Not sure which closet eyeliner wearing pussy you are talking about -- there are too many possibilities. I always thought that nothing was in the closet at Yale, but I discovered in the intervening years that there were even more of us than I thought.)
Toaster! Glad you made it.

As for the term "eurofag", I posted it bc I was reminded of just how obnoxious college kids were back then. I dont think it was meant to refer to people who were gay so much as people who would now be called "goth" (a term that was not around in my day). Bit high school kids in the eighties probably thought everyone who wasnt just liek them was gay (or a fag- see Spicoli in Fast Times At Ridgemont High). I know that some of these goth types from my high school are in fact straight but were still called "eurofags". Kids tease each mercilessly and relentlessly about the most horrid things. So, I was sort of mocking that as much as I was mocking the Morissey fans themselves.

I have the feeling for some reason that you are a couple of years older than me (from past posts?) but dont know why I think this and could be offbase. But I was one of the chicks who listened to the dead, smoked a lot of dope and ate the sweet cream and oreos at Ashleys at every opportunity if that narrows me down at all. I am sure the pretentious pseudo euro (my term for these types) Morissey types has great disdain for us and just as obnoxious nicknames. But we stayed away from eachotehr like the plague. Very bloods and crips, really.
I knew exactly what you meant by eurofags. And knew many of them.

"listened to the dead" probably removes you from the list. "Smoked a lot of dope" -- who didn't back then? "sweet cream and oreos at Ashleys" -- i preferred ginger snap at Thomas Sweet, but had my fair share of Ashleys. Besides, what else was there to do in new haven except get high, eat pizza and ice cream and have sex.

I'm not that old (37). It's just that this board makes me feel old.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Trading Places

paigowprincess wrote:
Ahnd you smell.
"If you had been listening, you would know that the phone in my limo is busted and I couldn't call my bitches. But you wouldn't know nothing about that you ignorant, Barry White lookin' motherfucker."

"Yeah. The phone in his limo was busted. What is you? Ignant?"

Thurgreed(it wasn't coP, it was copSS)Marshall

Trivia: name the other actor in the cell who had a part in Mo Better Blues, among other roles

evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:32 AM

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:14 pm Post subject: Re: Don Henley Must Die

Not_Bob wrote:
Ok, now I am singing "The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks."
You'll rot in hell for that one, NotBob. Any reference to an Eagles song is worthy of condemnation. But damn, now you've put an especially bad one into my head. Fuck you.

Don Henley must die.

Ollie (if you ain't got Mojo Nixon than your store could use some fixin') Ramone
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:25 pm Post subject: Sopranos Shut Down

This bears watching:

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - In true "Sopranos" style, the brouhaha over the fifth season of the hit HBO mob drama has turned into a bare-knuckled brawl -- and could even kill the show.

Production on season five, scheduled to get under way March 24, remained in peril Wednesday, as HBO executives said negotiations with the series star, James Gandolfini (news), are dead.

The last offer from HBO to Gandolfini on the table for the 13-episode fifth season was for $11 million, part of which was to be paid in profit participation.

But HBO insiders insist Gandolfini's camp was asking for much more than had been reported: $27 million for season five, and $16.7 million for a sixth season should that get ordered, for an average of $21 million per season for a fifth and sixth batch.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...on_sopranos_dc
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: Trading Places

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
paigowprincess wrote:
Ahnd you smell.
"If you had been listening, you would know that the phone in my limo is busted and I couldn't call my bitches. But you wouldn't know nothing about that you ignorant, Barry White lookin' motherfucker."

"Yeah. The phone in his limo was busted. What is you? Ignant?"

Thurgreed(it wasn't coP, it was copSS)Marshall

Trivia: name the other actor in the cell who had a part in Mo Better Blues, among other roles
Denzel? I have no clue. And I forgot about those guys. Hilarious. I am buging that DVD this weekend.

Who be putting out their Kools on my carpet?
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greatwhitenorthchick
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 3:54 pm Post subject:

Please rent it Paigow and let me know what those missing lyrics are - and thanks to you and Thurgreed for the Constance Fry part. there's a whole first verse too, that ends with "We're brothers to the end", but that's all I remember. Or I suppose I could always rent it - that's an idea.

In Philly, it's worth fifty bucks...
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Penske_Account
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 7:33 pm Post subject: still time to vote

in the first ever political poll of the day!
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Cure? No. Smiths? No. "Joy" Division. Now

Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
Oh, Jesus, take me now.
I didn't think He had those tendencies. Or you either.
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Trading Places

paigowprincess wrote:
Ahnd you smell.
ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
What is you? Ignant?"
No wonder no one can get under your skin. A Karate man like you bruises on the inside.
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robustpuppy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject: Sparring

Thurgreed,

WTF? I try to engage in some wordplay with you and you respond with an ad hominem attack that would give a psych grad student enough fodder to fill her fucking dissertation! (The word "projection" comes to mind.)

If you had bothered to read my post with care -- and please, spare me all the reasons that you wouldn't in fact bother -- you might have noticed that I mocked myself as much as I mocked you. Gently.

You invited me to play. I obliged, choosing my words carefully, thinking they might engage the humor and intellect that you display when you're not busy calling people assjack and wackadoo (well, sometimes the wackadoo is funny) and reminding them, whether directly or indirectly, of your status as a longtime FB poster who is friends with FBers off board. You responded to gentle and deserved mockery with a blunderbuss of a post that made up in hostility what it lacked in reasoning and wit.

And even though I've read your posts, and I know that cheap shots are part of your shtick, and that you get your hackles up at the slightest perceived provocation, I wasn't expecting that. I thought you might have tried to be clever yourself.

My hopes for the three of us (you, me, and my ratio) are dashed.

RP
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:08 pm Post subject: Re: Sparring

robustpuppy wrote:
WTF? I try to engage in some wordplay with you and you respond with an ad hominem attack that would give a psych grad student enough fodder to fill her fucking dissertation!
Worse, he's almost as verbose as the typical femme poster on the boards.
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Jack_Manfred
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:08 pm Post subject:

paigowprincess wrote:
First, wno was George Miller exactly?
George Miller was a comic. He had white hair and kinda had a grumpy old man persona., like Charles Grodin. He'd typically go on Letterman (or Carson back in the day) and rant about what made him "angry." He might have been the only comic from those days not to have a sitcom.

paigowprincess wrote:
Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.
I never went to Yale, had an assymetrical haircut, or sighed longingly at the thin, athletic, cross-country runners at my high school. I never even got into The Smiths until college. I grew up in the SF Bay Area, and "How Soon Is Now?" was played consistently for a good seven years on Live 105 (the local radio station). I maintain that The Smiths were a great band, and that Johnny Marr was a great guitarist. I really like The Smiths musically. Maybe my relationship with bands is different than most. I wasn't going to become a vegan or change my sexual orientation because of some singer.

paigowprincess wrote:
Elvis Costello? He speaks for himself. Alilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllissssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. God. He sucks. Remember that horrid episdoe of Melrose Place with that song?
Actually, I do remember that Melrose Place episode...and I still cringe when I hear "Allisom" because the memory of Andrew Shue singing that damn song is burrowed into my head.... but let's face it, whatever song that soccer player-with-an-agent sang was going to be ruined. It's hardly Elvis' fault. Besides, all episodes of Melrose Place were awful. I watched them regularly, for a time, but that show was one of the worst shows of the 90's.

To move this thread along, I'll start a related topic. What bands have suffered the greatest backlash from fans or critics? I'll offer my top 5:

1. Veruca Salt. After "Seether" broke, everyone was calling them sellouts and Breeders wannabees (not that The Breeders did a whole lot after Last Splash). Some even thought they picked an indie label just so they could tread on its credibility.

2. The Lovin' Spoonful. Two of their members get busted for pot in San Francisco. One of them is Canadian, and the Feds threaten to deport him unless he names names. Afterwards, the hippies shun them.

3. Van Halen. Two words: Sammy Hagar.

4. Creed. They'd be number one on the list, except they suck so much, it's unfair to give them first place in anything.

5. Urge Overkill. An entire city shuns them after they leave Touch & Go. Producer Steve Albini publicly attacks them any chance he gets. Their nickname for Chicago catches on...and Liz Phair cribs it for Exile in Guyville.
Any other takers?

Jack Manfred
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robustpuppy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: Sparring

coupdskek wrote:
robustpuppy wrote:
WTF? I try to engage in some wordplay with you and you respond with an ad hominem attack that would give a psych grad student enough fodder to fill her fucking dissertation!
Worse, he's almost as verbose as the typical femme poster on the boards.
Hey, WTF? Are you attacking me too, Mr. Man of Few Words?

I could go on, but.
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catrin_darcy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Gift Ideas for One-Year old

greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
What does one get the one-year old that has everything? I've already knitted him two sweaters in his short life, so am not going to give him another one yet. This kid is drowning in toys, so I don't really want to get him another one. He loves the three stooges, so I was thinking of getting him a video of that, but he is already laughing too much at other's misfortune (like when he burst out laughing at the kid in his playgroup who slipped and fell), so I think his mom would be annoyed at me for encouraging that behavior (and his mom is one of my best friends). I'm kind of stumped. His birthday is two Saturdays from now. Maybe I should get something for the parents? A contribution to a 529 plan? Should I ask the lawyers with kids board? Any ideas would be much appreciated.
books. specifically, those board books (picture books with cardboard "pages" instead of paper, so that it's harder for the kid to destroy them). never too many books .. . .

cd
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dirty_sanchez
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:21 pm Post subject:

Quote:
[quote="Jack_Manfred"]
paigowprincess wrote:
First, wno was George Miller exactly?
George Miller was a comic. He had white hair and kinda had a grumpy old man persona., like Charles Grodin. He'd typically go on Letterman (or Carson back in the day) and rant about what made him "angry." He might have been the only comic from those days not to have a sitcom.
Remember when Leno was funny back in the early to mid-80s. What the fuck happened to that guy? And what's up with the reverse skunkhead hairdo? Is he trying to look funny to make up for his lack of humor?

Jack_Manfred wrote:
To move this thread along, I'll start a related topic. What bands have suffered the greatest backlash from fans or critics? Any other takers?
March 2003: after disrespecting the CinC during wartime while on foreign soil the Dixie hicks go from top of the pops back to to the bottom of the trailer trash heap.
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Pretty_Little_Flower
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: Cure? No. Smiths? No. "Joy" Division. Now

coupdskek wrote:
Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
Oh, Jesus, take me now.
I didn't think He had those tendencies. Or you either.
You are right, of course. I have no Christian tendencies at all.

I'd fuck Jesus in a second, though.
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I_have_diarrhea
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:23 pm Post subject: dammit

It looks like everyone else was able to reactivate their accounts.

It seems that SEC Chick is dead.

But I have diarrhea lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: Cure? No. Smiths? No. "Joy" Division. Now

Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
Oh, Jesus, take me now.
coupdskek wrote:
I didn't think He had those tendencies. Or you either.
coupdskek wrote:
I'd fuck Jesus in a second, though.
A sadistic tease like Him would hold out longer than that.
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str8_outa_covina
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:06 am Post subject: Music Backlash

Watching Will Ferrell hosting Letterman; he could do this for a living if he wanted to.

Anyways, interesting topic JM about the musical backlash. Of course, all pop acts that reach mega-superstardom suffer a backlash from critics (NKOTB, Spice Girls, BSB, N'Sync), so I think it's more interesting to come up with acts who were popular one week, and about whom, the next week, all but the lamest lamo-s were saying "I never liked ..... " I agree that Creed is an all time hall-of-famer. But how about these that come to mind.

1. Extreme. There's a hole in my musical talent that cannot possibly be filled by anyone . . . never has a backlash been so deserved.

2. Courtney Love. Very cool for a few months. Then . . .

3. Def Leppard. When they switched from their Pyromania phase to their "Pour some sugar on me" bit, the backlash began, and deservedly so.

and DL's brother-in-Lange

4. Bryan Adams.

5. Well this might seem weird, but how about Prince? Remember when "Purple Rain" came out? At least in my corner of the motherland, he was totally popular, but then if you liked Prince you were a total fag (fag having nothing to do with homosexuality, at that time and place). Then at some point when I get to college, Prince is very cool again.

ewww Crispin Glover is on. He's freaky. I gotta go now.

str8 outa Main Line (this weekend anyway)
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evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:35 AM

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:43 am Post subject: Backlash

The all-time worst musical backlash (deserved or undeserved) has to be Billy Squier.

You used to hear his rock album all the time and then he came out with that one video where he pranced around a bedroom stage and tore off his pink shirt.

NTTAWWT

I have never seen disavowal of ownership so fast.

I also offer these for your consideration:

1. Vanilla Ice

2. Hammer -- 2 legit to uh yeah.

3. Puffy -- though no one ever actually liked him other than as a producer for Biggie (who I am not crazy about) and Mary J. (who I adore). Recent information is he is becoming hip. (Not sure I believe the audience will follow, though his rapping on I Need a Girl #2 was (gulp) passable, if not good.)

My picks for next to crash:

Ja Rule -- press reporting that he is getting booed in Australia for not shoing up with Ashanti and he certainly has no credibility as a rapper since the whole Ashanti/let's sing everything album. Plus the negative press about his label will start to affect the commercial audience.

Nelly -- The St. Lunatics are doing him no favors. Neither is "Give me two Pahr, I need two Pahr."
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bold_n_brazen
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

barely_legal wrote:
bold_n_brazen wrote:
My best memories of life in the sorority house include getting so fucked up on mushrooms that I made another sister remove the big coke mirror from the room because I couldn't be sure it was my reflection and not my evil twin's reflection I was seeing, losing my underwear in the FIJI house, dancing naked on the front porch not once but twice the weekend that I graduated, having sex in the first floor telephone booth because my roommate had done the same thing the week before, puking off the roof onto the house mother's car, and other sundry events invloving either booze, drugs, or casual sex.

But these girls on MTV? First of all, they are skanks. Second of all, no pledges live in a house IRL. Third of all, DZO isn't even a national sorority. Fourth of all, this show exists just so that people who didn't join sororities can feel smug about their choice.

Bn'(humming dirty sorority drinking song in my head now)B
So what's your defintion of skank? Someone who doesn't engage in sundry events involfing either booze, drugs, or casual sex?

And if the goal of the show is to make me smug -- then it's a rousing success.

[Edited to fix code -- E/O]
Touche, BL. Although my point was really 2-fold.

1) When I did all these things, it was a different time...a time pre-AIDS (mostly), pre-GHB and other date-rape drugs, pre-political correctness.

2) I didn't do these things with the full knowledge that a fucking camera crew was following me around! I never feared that my mother, my father, my high school cheerleading coach, or my family rabbi would see me doing any of the things I mentioned above. In fact, with the exception of that episode of "Studs", I've never been filmed for TV, period. To me...it's the knowledge that they are going to be shown on MTV while committing such acts that makes them skanks to me. Similarly, the girls of "Girls Gone Wild" aren't doing anything I haven't done, either on Spring Break or at Mardi Gras, but I've never allowed anyone to film me showing them my TITS, and I certainly wouldn't sign a release if they had!

Bn'B
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barely_legal
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

bold_n_brazen wrote:
Touche, BL. Although my point was really 2-fold.

1) When I did all these things, it was a different time...a time pre-AIDS (mostly), pre-GHB and other date-rape drugs, pre-political correctness.

2) I didn't do these things with the full knowledge that a fucking camera crew was following me around! I never feared that my mother, my father, my high school cheerleading coach, or my family rabbi would see me doing any of the things I mentioned above. In fact, with the exception of that episode of "Studs", I've never been filmed for TV, period. To me...it's the knowledge that they are going to be shown on MTV while committing such acts that makes them skanks to me. Similarly, the girls of "Girls Gone Wild" aren't doing anything I haven't done, either on Spring Break or at Mardi Gras, but I've never allowed anyone to film me showing them my TITS, and I certainly wouldn't sign a release if they had!

Bn'B
Fair enough. For what it's worth, your sorority sounds like a lot more fun than the one on Mtv. Did you ever yell at your pledges for disrespecting you because they put post it notes with riddles all over the house?

And about the Girls Gone Wild stuff -- those girls don't have to sign releases, do they? I mean, since they are doing it in public, then if it gets filmed they are screwed, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, because if I can go around flashing my tits with no possibility of film of it ending up in the public domain without my signing a release, then this weekend might be more fun than I had been planning.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Sorority Life

barely_legal wrote:
Fair enough. For what it's worth, your sorority sounds like a lot more fun than the one on Mtv. Did you ever yell at your pledges for disrespecting you because they put post it notes with riddles all over the house?
I think it was a lot more fun...like I said, I can't imagine why anyone would join a sorority today...

I only remember getting angry at a pledge once. She thought it was funny to steal my teddy bear and left a note that she had done so. I called her, told her that I was going to leave the house for 2 hours, and that when I returned my bear had better be where he belonged. I was perfectly calm. I think I scared the shit out of her. When I returned, there was good old Bo Bear, and a lovely bouquet of sorority flowers.

barely_legal wrote:
And about the Girls Gone Wild stuff -- those girls don't have to sign releases, do they? I mean, since they are doing it in public, then if it gets filmed they are screwed, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, because if I can go around flashing my tits with no possibility of film of it ending up in the public domain without my signing a release, then this weekend might be more fun than I had been planning.
Gosh, I really don't know. I always assumed they'd gotten releases from them...but what do I know? I'm just an M&A lawyer.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:39 am Post subject: Music acklash

1. Michael Jackson. One nose job too many, and it didn't matter what the hell he was singing.

2. Britney. She swears once in South America, and the pop tart is fair game.

3. U2. Until they hit "elder statesman" status in the last year or so, the critics were lambasting anyone who wasn't cool enough to have stopped listening to them after "War."

3. Any band, like Duran Duran, that teen girls liked in the 80s. Wasn't until last couple of years that Rolling Stone's testosterone-crazed critics admitted that in terms of musical ability and lyrics they were actually better than crappy hair bands like Poison and Ratt.

4. Guns 'n' Roses. Axl turns into a freakin' weirdo recluse, and after that he could write the Messiah and still get abused.

BTW, did anyone else see Slash on Trading Spaces?
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:27 am Post subject:

Jack_Manfred wrote:
paigowprincess wrote:
First, wno was George Miller exactly?
George Miller was a comic. He had white hair and kinda had a grumpy old man persona., like Charles Grodin. He'd typically go on Letterman (or Carson back in the day) and rant about what made him "angry." He might have been the only comic from those days not to have a sitcom.

paigowprincess wrote:
Second, I am left wondering if you are that flabby, pale, lopsided haircut, closet eyeliner wearing pussy from Horace Mann who I went to Yale with in the late eighties? You my dear boy are what we non PC college kids used to call a "eurofag". NTTAWWT. But please, just bc you were a loser in high school and had to get half your head shaevd and had to shop at Flip to be different, does not make the Smiths a decent band.
I never went to Yale, had an assymetrical haircut, or sighed longingly at the thin, athletic, cross-country runners at my high school. I never even got into The Smiths until college. I grew up in the SF Bay Area, and "How Soon Is Now?" was played consistently for a good seven years on Live 105 (the local radio station). I maintain that The Smiths were a great band, and that Johnny Marr was a great guitarist. I really like The Smiths musically. Maybe my relationship with bands is different than most. I wasn't going to become a vegan or change my sexual orientation because of some singer.

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Elvis Costello? He speaks for himself. Alilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllissssssssssssssssssooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon. God. He sucks. Remember that horrid episdoe of Melrose Place with that song?
Actually, I do remember that Melrose Place episode...and I still cringe when I hear "Allisom" because the memory of Andrew Shue singing that damn song is burrowed into my head.... but let's face it, whatever song that soccer player-with-an-agent sang was going to be ruined. It's hardly Elvis' fault. Besides, all episodes of Melrose Place were awful. I watched them regularly, for a time, but that show was one of the worst shows of the 90's.

To move this thread along, I'll start a related topic. What bands have suffered the greatest backlash from fans or critics? I'll offer my top 5:

1. Veruca Salt. After "Seether" broke, everyone was calling them sellouts and Breeders wannabees (not that The Breeders did a whole lot after Last Splash). Some even thought they picked an indie label just so they could tread on its credibility.

2. The Lovin' Spoonful. Two of their members get busted for pot in San Francisco. One of them is Canadian, and the Feds threaten to deport him unless he names names. Afterwards, the hippies shun them.

3. Van Halen. Two words: Sammy Hagar.

4. Creed. They'd be number one on the list, except they suck so much, it's unfair to give them first place in anything.

5. Urge Overkill. An entire city shuns them after they leave Touch & Go. Producer Steve Albini publicly attacks them any chance he gets. Their nickname for Chicago catches on...and Liz Phair cribs it for Exile in Guyville.
Any other takers?

Jack Manfred
Well, Jack, I am not sure my answers to your poll are exactly what you were looking for with the question. But I will say that Hole sticks in my mind as the band who went from putting out a uber brilliant album (live thourgh this) and folllowed it up with a total worthless POS followup(celebrity skin). OF coruse, the reason for this is that Cobain wrote Live Thougth This and Billy Corgan wrote chunks of celebrity skin along with the world's biggest sellout herself, Courtney Love.

Lenny Kravitz comes to mind for this poll but I think the critics always hated him for his "derivative" style. But I thought his music got pretty bad after Are you gonna go my way and that he totally sold out with Fly Away and its being on every other commercial.

Other recent disappointments for me personally come from my some of my alltime favorite acts. Sheryl Crow's last album was pretty weak but not dreadful. The Chili Peppers last effort was only listened to a handful of times and is now collecting dust. Chris Cornell's effort with I thinkt he rage against the machine(?) may not have been great but I think I only heard one song (what is the name of that song again). I loved soundgarden so much that anything that isnt ncredible is a disappointment. Of course, if I heard the whole album maybe I woiuldnt be disappointed but I havent heard it was great.

and the fallout of the greatest band of the nineties, the Black Crowes, was a disappointment unparalleled for me. The last album was ok (better than three snakes and a charm but not up to shake your money maker, southnern harmony and amorica). and is chris robinson doing a solo album? has it already happened/ How long is this marriage to Kate Hudson gonna last anyway? I want my crowes back.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:36 am Post subject: Yes I am

Are you Hot? (can we get that cool spoiler space thingie from bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboy?)

I love this show. I found myself trying to figure out how old Lorenzo Lamas, International Hearthrob (and I think that is the wrong throbbing organ for hnis title) must be. He was in Grease which could not have come out later than 1980 (i think it was more like '7 and he could not have been younger than 18 (though I think hewas more like 24). With these figures in mind, he woudl be 41. Youngest. This guy is a walking botox, tanning machine., blond frost hair anti aging machine. And did anyone catch his outfit? Denim jacket, no shirt and a red bandanna around his neck. Who is he fooling?
Now, how about that guy who was a bartender I think from San Diego? Did anyone notice that his man boobs were twitching? I thnk Randolph Duke (the one not from Trading Places) said it best that people were gonna be automatically jealous of him. No reason to act cocky. Just roll with it. I live by this motto and I can tell you that those who used to hate me bc I am beautiful now find me totally lovable.

But back to that twitching manboob thing. What was that schtick on SNL with the flexed manboobs being done to the tune of Dueling Banjos? This guy was such an unbelievable piece of egocentric mancake that it was REdiculous. Way too many muscles and no body hair. Not a good look to impress straight women.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Trading Places

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Trivia: name the other actor in the cell who had a part in Mo Better Blues, among other roles
paigowprincess wrote:
Denzel? I have no clue. And I forgot about those guys. Hilarious. I am buging that DVD this weekend.
Nope. Giancarlo Esposito. He's been in a lot of films.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800114903&cf=gen
paigowprincess wrote:
Who be putting out their Kools on my carpet?
Pawn shop guy: Burned my fingers, man.

Louie: Are you suggesting it's stolen?

Pawn shop guy: You gotta receipt? I'll give you $50 bucks for it.

Louie: You don't understand. This is a Rausch Foucoult. It is THE sports watch of the 80s. Singularly handcrafted. Waterproof up to threeeee atmospheres. It tells time simultaneously in London, Paris, Geneva, Amsterdam and Staaaaaadt.

Pawn shop guy: In Philly, it's worth fifty bucks.

Louie: Alright, just give me the money...How much for the gun?

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Trading Places

paigowprincess wrote:
Ahnd you smell.
ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
What is you? Ignant?"
coupdskek wrote:
No wonder no one can get under your skin. A Karate man like you bruises on the inside.
Not only that, but I know the quart-o-blood technique.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Trading Places

paigowprincess wrote:
Who be putting out their Kools on my carpet?
Excellent reference, however, I believe the line is, "Who's been puttin' they Kools out on ma flo'?" (not carpet).

And Thurgreed, you left out the funniest coda to your quote:

It wasn't cop, it was copssssssss, plural
Every line in that jail scene is absolutely perfect.

viz. "It ain't cool bein' no JIIIVE turkey, so close to Thanksgivin'."

When my family finally makes the leap to the 21st century and buys a DVD, Trading Places will be one of the first purchases I make!
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:53 am Post subject: Trading Places -- not a quote

I'm snickering here thinking of the scene with Louis sitting on the bus in his Santa Costume eating the huge slab of salmon through his Santa beard. Too much.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Sparring

robustpuppy wrote:
WTF? I try to engage in some wordplay with you and you respond with an ad hominem attack...If you had bothered to read my post with care...you might have noticed that I mocked myself as much as I mocked you. Gently...You invited me to play. I obliged...
I will take full responsibility for misreading your post. Sometimes I'm dense. I did not read your post in the manner in which it was intended and clearly went too far. My bad. When I get that way, it has been proven that a quick "settle down, francis" works quite well. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong and I apologize.

robustpuppy wrote:
When you're not busy calling people assjack and wackadoo (well, sometimes the wackadoo is funny) and reminding them, whether directly or indirectly, of your status as a longtime FB poster who is friends with FBers off board.
This is silly. I wasn't trying to show you how cool I am because I know posters off of the board. I was trying to tell you that I wasn't just attacking dtb to be a dick. I actually give her the shit that I do because she is a friend of mine. And believe me, she gives it right back.

robustpuppy wrote:
My hopes for the three of us (you, me, and my ratio) are dashed.
C'est la vie. But, the least you could do is share the ratio with me/us, so I know what I'm missing out on.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Backlash

EvenOdds wrote:
The all-time worst musical backlash
I think most of us forget the backlash to PE when they came out. It was huge.

Then NWA (mostly Ice Cube) wrote "Fuck the Police."

And some of you may remember Bodycount's "Cop Killer."

Now that music in general is about the video and not the song as much, all the backlash is from what you see in the video and often not what is actually in the songs (Eminem notwithstanding).

TM

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Pawn shop guy: Burned my fingers, man.

Bo knows watches.

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My favorite part is when he wakes up and says "Oh Coleman, I had the most absurd nightmare. I was poor and no one liked me. I lost my job, I lost my house, Penelope hated me, and it was all because of this terrible, awful Negro." And then he starts strangling Eddie Murphy and he does the "It .. was. . the Dukes" bit.

When I met Dan Ackroyd, groupie that I am, I was dying to ask him to do that line, but he was too fucked up. And I was also disappointed at the time because my friend was trying to hook me up with River Phoenix and unfortunately he was out of his tree, but that's another story, and a sad one at that.

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barely_legal wrote:
And about the Girls Gone Wild stuff -- those girls don't have to sign releases, do they? I mean, since they are doing it in public, then if it gets filmed they are screwed, right? Correct me if I'm wrong

You are wrong. They are asked to sign something immediately after they are filmed. I saw on one of the thousands of news magazine type shows that the company produces those things lost a suit to some girl whose breasts were shown without her permission. I think if you film someone who is not in the public eye, you cannot use their likeness to profit without their permission. Showing your breasts in public would catch my eye, but I think the standard is higher than that.

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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
I think most of us forget the backlash to PE when they came out. It was huge.

Then NWA (mostly Ice Cube) wrote "Fuck the Police."

And some of you may remember Bodycount's "Cop Killer."

Now that music in general is about the video and not the song as much, all the backlash is from what you see in the video and often not what is actually in the songs (Eminem notwithstanding).

TM

Do you think their audience or their critics deserted them as a result?

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I swear, this is the last one, but I just had to share some of the less-often-quoted funniness:

I had the most absurd nightmare. I was poor and no one liked me. I lost my job, I lost my house, Penelope hated me and it was all because of this terrible, awful Negro.

You know, I can really dig this, Randy. You know why? This kind of thing happens to me every week!

Jacuzzi? See, I knew y'all was faggots!

He was wearing my Harvard tie. Can you believe it? My Harvard tie. Like oh, sure he went to Harvard.

And perhaps my all-time favorite (this is a fluid category...)

trpl-bookies.wav

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Mmmm,Burger(C.J.) wrote:
Bacon, as in a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich

You win. I've seen that movie a dozen times and when he explains commodities to Eddie and Eddie looks at the camera I crack up every time.

Eddie to chauffeur: "Hey brotha, these guys a couple of fags, right?"

Chauffeur shrugs.

Eddie: "Are they for real?"

Chauffeur shrugs.

Eddie: "So what's my next move?"

Chauffeur shrugs.

Eddie: "Thank you. You've been very hepful."

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All the New Haven nostalgia made me weepy, but last year I discovered that Ashley's and other landmarks are long gone, so in tribute:

I met this hottie soph-o-more
Where I'd eaten ice cream years before
But the Betty asked if I would like a scone
So I went across the street to sit
down at the Daily, but holy shit
Some assjack wanted me to buy a phone
And in the streets the freshmen screamed
"Urban Outfitters, like I dreamed"
I was nearly chokin'
Cause the closest Wawa's -- Hoboken
The fashionistas I like most
infinity, paigs and toast
They all think this is the dumbest post
on the Lawtalkers board.

Bye bye, says this New Haven guy
I was humble back in Trumbull
Blazin' up to get high
Wasn't a goth, but I liked Morris-eye
It's about that time for this song to die.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:35 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Trading Places
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Mmmm,Burger(C.J.) wrote:
Bacon, as in a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich

You win. I've seen that movie a dozen times and when he explains commodities to Eddie and Eddie looks at the camera I crack up every time.

Eddie to chauffeur: "Hey brotha, these guys a couple of fags, right?"

Chauffeur shrugs.

Eddie: "Are they for real?"

Chauffeur shrugs.

Eddie: "So what's my next move?"

Chauffeur shrugs.

Eddie: "Thank you. You've been very hepful."

TM

Thats great. THere are three quotes that my family memebers always use. Whenever someoen mentions Harvard, the response to that is always "oh, shuuuuuuuuuure, like he went o Hahvahd", I perosnally would say this to anyone who says Harvard to me. Hopefully most of these people know this movie. The other two are "you've been HEPful" to those who havent hepped. Always say that and lastly, whenever something is moving really fast we always say "look at that S ___ go",

The other family quote that is huge is "I never fucked noone who didnt fuck me first".
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:41 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Sparring
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
I apologize . . . The least you could do is share the ratio with me, so I know what I'm missing out on. TM

Nice try, kitten!

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:42 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Trading Places
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paigowprincess wrote:
Somehow I have a feeling that francis and I could easily pass a day locked ina room together. We sure have lots in common. buckets.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:43 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Trading Places
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paigowprincess wrote:

Somehow I have a feeling that francis and I could easily pass a day locked ina room together. We sure have lots in common. buckets. except he hates Meet The Parents which is the family movie second to Trading Places.

TM hates Meet the Parents? He is my SP! Who'da thunk?

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Did someone post a site the other day (maybe on bbbbbbbbb) from which they had bought a tank with built-in underwire bra? Could you re-post? I searched "underwire" and came up with nothing.

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Did someone post a site the other day (maybe on bbbbbbbbb) from which they had bought a tank with built-in underwire bra?
Thanks!

I know the Pentagon funds some weird shit, but tanks with built-in bras? Do they even let women drive tanks? Maybe it's really a tank with built-in manzier (or Bro). And what do you want with a tank, anyway? If you're off your meds and searching for heavy artillery, with or without breasticle support, we should probably alert the authorities.Back to top
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ltlfb wrote:
Did someone post a site the other day (maybe on bbbbbbbbb) from which they had bought a tank with built-in underwire bra? Could you re-post? I searched "underwire" and came up with nothing.

Thanks!

It was on the ezboard. www.bravissimo.com/web/shopping/index.html

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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone wrote:
Not_Bob wrote:

Ok, now I am singing "The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks."

You'll rot in hell for that one, NotBob. Any reference to an Eagles song is worthy of condemnation. But damn, now you've put an especially bad one into my head. Fuck you.

Don Henley must die.

Ollie (if you ain't got Mojo Nixon than your store could use some fixin') Ramone

Sorry, Ollie. I hate to tell you this, but I kinda dig the whole 1970s California mellow-mafia sound. Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne, the Eagles, James Taylor, Warren Zevon, etc. In fact, other than (maybe) my affinity for chick music, one could call my taste in music Not Cool.

But blame the whole sorrrrrority thread for putting that song in my head, which prompted me to mention it, which put it in your head. I am sorry for doing that. Truly.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:23 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tank top
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robustpuppy wrote:
ltlfb wrote:
Did someone post a site the other day (maybe on bbbbbbbbb) from which they had bought a tank with built-in underwire bra? Could you re-post?

Somebody also mentioned the Garnet Hill catalog.

It was I who mentioned Garnet Hill, but when I checked their website it was not among the online offerings.

I would be willing to bet it is available through their catalog, though. It was in a GH catalog I saw within the last few weeks. The phone number for GH is 1-800-870-3513. If I remember right, the colors available were white, black and red.

I'll probably call to see if it's available through the catalog.

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Not_Bob wrote:

Sorry, Ollie. I hate to tell you this, but I kinda dig the whole 1970s California mellow-mafia sound. Linda Ronstadt, Jackson Browne, the Eagles, James Taylor, Warren Zevon, etc. In fact, other than (maybe) my affinity for chick music, one could call my taste in music Not Cool.

Nothing wrong with Warren Zevon (well, other than inoperable lung cancer). In fact, a whole bunch right about him (though he was kind of a pussy in his newly dry days when he would change "pina colada" to perrier in Warewolves of London). Linda Ronstadt has a good voice, and she was kinda hot back in the day. Plus, she gets derivative cool points for hanging with Emmylou (sp?), who in turn hung with Gram Parsons. Jackson Brown? No real opinion. I generally want to strangle James Taylor, but that's primarily a matter of personal taste.

I see nothing redeeming, however, in the Eagles. Except that it's better than the solo crap put out by its various members (w/ the possible exception of Joe Walsh, whose music is good for a laugh in a drunken frat boy sort of way). I reluctently give Henley some credit for having a sense of humor about "Don Henley Must Die."Back to top
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I am totally bummed out and disillusioned with the practice of law today. Is anyone hiring for a more dignified job instead, like, say, pimp?

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:42 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tank top
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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone wrote:
And what do you want with a tank, anyway? If you're off your meds and searching for heavy artillery, with or without breasticle support, we should probably alert the authorities.

Are you threatening me with having Rumsfeld support my puppicles? I don't think I want Rumsfeld anywhere near them.

The Garnet Hill site doesn't have them, but I think did before when you mentioned it so maybe it will again. I ordered non-underwire ones from jjill and (a) they were too low-cut for what I want it for and (b) non-underwire is perhaps not ideal. RP, what category are tanks in on the site you sent? It looks like underwear mostly.

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Rick, I'm shocked...shocked...to find 234 porn mpgs on your computer.

not7y(what's next - a hearing that booze gets you drunk)S

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The same technology used to download music from file-sharing sites makes it possible to trade pornography, tech experts testified at a Capitol Hill hearing Thursday.

At a hearing of the House Government Reform Committee, parents were put on notice that they've got to do more than put porn blocking programs on their computers to keep x-rated images away from their children.

"Now parents may think that they are doing something about this problem," said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif. "When they put in these parental control software programs like Net Nanny or Cyber Patrol, they think they can protect their children from this pornography. But our investigation also found that while these programs might work to keep kids from pornography on the World Wide Web, they do not work in the same way for file sharing programs."

Many porn filters block Web pages from a user's computer by weeding out sites that contain words such as "sex" and "XXX." But file sharing sites, such as Kazaa, allow direct exchanges between one computer user and another. This peer-to-peer trading cannot be intercepted by porn filters.

"That's what makes it hard to police," said Randy Saaf, who operates MediaDefender.com.

During the hearing, a committee staffer showed how easy it is to access pornographic images. The staffer performed a Google search to reach Kazaa, then once on Kazaa searched for Britney Spears. Hundreds of downloadable files then appeared on the screen.

Committee Chairman Tom Davis, R-Va., was surprised. "This is really very alarming to me as a parent who thought he was tech savvy on this kind of thing to see how far this has gone," he said.

That children might download porn isn't the only reason for concern, Saaf said. He said his work has shown that at federal government agencies there are people who spend time at work downloading pornBack to top
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robustpuppy
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ltlfb wrote:
RP, what category are tanks in on the site you sent? It looks like underwear mostly.

Thanks!

Just the messenger on that one; I haven't visited the site.

Have to say I was surprised when you mentioned your breasts, as I thought you were a guy for no particular reason.

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MangoLassi
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:50 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tank top
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ltlfb wrote:
The Garnet Hill site doesn't have them . . .

Now it does! I just called them. If you don't see it on display, you can find the top by item No. At the bottom of the page, there's a choice to "Shop by Item No. ____." Just type in 7273 and click "go."

The tops come in black, white, pink and baby blue and regular bra sizes. Yay!!!Back to top
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TexLex
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 2:57 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Releases Gone Wild
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
barely_legal wrote:
And about the Girls Gone Wild stuff -- those girls don't have to sign releases, do they? I mean, since they are doing it in public, then if it gets filmed they are screwed, right? Correct me if I'm wrong

You are wrong. They are asked to sign something immediately after they are filmed. I saw on one of the thousands of news magazine type shows that the company produces those things lost a suit to some girl whose breasts were shown without her permission. I think if you film someone who is not in the public eye, you cannot use their likeness to profit without their permission. Showing your breasts in public would catch my eye, but I think the standard is higher than that.

Thurgreed(contemplating a FB Gone Wild II Day)Marshall

You're right - the suit had to do that with the fact that she was too drunk to consent to appearing - I didn't hear about the release specifically, but if she was drunk, any release she signed would have been void or at least voidable.

I saw a woman with the biggest puppies (not puppies, full blown irish wolfhounds!) I have ever seen yesterday - they had to be quintuple F - they were at least 3x the size of her head...each. And she had a big head. I can only imagine the horrors of getting stuck in skinny doorways and small cars with a pair like that.

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MangoLassi wrote:
ltlfb wrote:
The Garnet Hill site doesn't have them . . .

Now it does! I just called them. If you don't see it on display, you can find the top by item No. At the bottom of the page, there's a choice to "Shop by Item No. ____." Just type in 7273 and click "go."

The tops come in black, white, pink and baby blue and regular bra sizes. Yay!!!

They don't have my cup size, dammit! I am condemned to show my bra straps through my tank tops like a tart forever.Back to top
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TexLex
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They don't have my cup size, dammit! I am condemned to show my bra straps through my tank tops like a tart forever.

Were you in Houston yesterday?

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ltlfb
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:01 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tank top
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MangoLassi wrote:
I just called them.

You, I like. Thank you. I'm ordering one . . .

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They don't have my cup size, dammit! I am condemned to show my bra straps through my tank tops like a tart forever.

There is another option that does not involve display of bra straps. Back to top
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barely_legal
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:04 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Releases Gone Wild
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TexLex wrote:
You're right - the suit had to do that with the fact that she was too drunk to consent to appearing - I didn't hear about the release specifically, but if she was drunk, any release she signed would have been void or at least voidable.
-TL

ok, I believe you but this makes no sense. I would think that well over half of the women who appear topless on these videos are drunk as shit, so they are signing releases when then are drunk as shit, so why aren't all those leases voidable? Are most of the women too apathetic (or maybe proud to be on the video) to sue?

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There is another option that does not involve display of bra straps.

Lecherous sadist. That can be painful. Particularly for someone who needs underwire (but, pj, if you don't, jjill has a bunch of non-underwire tanks with built in bras).

f(generally, puppies are not very robust but every once in a while I find myself wearing an immobilizing sportsbra to work)bBack to top
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:11 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tank top
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ltlfb wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:
I just called them.

You, I like. Thank you. I'm ordering one . . .

Why thank *you*!

I just ordered a black one myself.

Oh, and to the gentleman suggesting the option of bralessness, I appreciate his sentiment, but the effect ends up being kind of meth-whorish. NTTAWWT.

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Get your mind out of the gutter. I never suggested any such thing. rather, you could forego tanktops entirely and opt for baggy sweaters.Back to top
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/bre...4p-62534c.html

Flight attendant drugs a toddler's apple juice to shut em up.

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I saw that article. I've contemplated using that method with the baby 8Track many times. Although, it's a bit presumptuous to offer it to someone else's kid.

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They don't have my cup size, dammit! I am condemned to show my bra straps through my tank tops like a tart forever.

There is another option that does not involve display of bra straps.

Other than going bra-less . . .

I saw a "padded-bra tank" from Express in the new issue of Real Simple. It's listed at $23 and comes in 8 colors.

I checked out the website (www.expressfashion.com), but it is irritating and there are no page links.Back to top
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:18 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Now who hasn't wanted to do this?
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/bre...4p-62534c.html

Flight attendant drugs a toddler's apple juice to shut em up.

TM

This is f'ing BRILLIANT! My fantasy! (Not the being arrested part, of course.)Back to top
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TexLex
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:20 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Releases Gone Wild
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barely_legal wrote:
TexLex wrote:
You're right - the suit had to do that with the fact that she was too drunk to consent to appearing - I didn't hear about the release specifically, but if she was drunk, any release she signed would have been void or at least voidable.
-TL

ok, I believe you but this makes no sense. I would think that well over half of the women who appear topless on these videos are drunk as shit, so they are signing releases when then are drunk as shit, so why aren't all those leases voidable? Are most of the women too apathetic (or maybe proud to be on the video) to sue?

Perplexing isn't it? I don't know - I think this one was on one of the commercials so maybe she had higher damages since everyone in the free world saw her...um...performance? Maybe none of the girls gone wild thinks to sue. Maybe they can't come up with an expense retainer..... And yes - I think they are all drunk - flashing strangers is a lot more amusing with a few hurricanes in your gullet.

I was expecting a flurry of lawsuits after I heard about that one, but.... Maybe this was the first one who thought of it and they've silently settled with the rest. And I don't know if she actually won (other than what TM says) only that the suit was filed. But yes, if she signed an agreement without capacity to sign, then I would think she had a decent case to avoid the agreement.

I do know that if you flash people at Mardi Gras there are tons of guys with cameras and videorecorders, so I'm not sure what the "expectation of privacy" is there when it is clear you are being recorded, but the fact that your image is being used for commercial purposes probably changes things.

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pursejunkie
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:35 pm__ _Post subject: tanks, & drugging kidlets
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ltlfb wrote:
infinitytrack wrote:
There is another option that does not involve display of bra straps.

Lecherous sadist. That can be painful. Particularly for someone who needs underwire (but, pj, if you don't, jjill has a bunch of non-underwire tanks with built in bras).

f(generally, puppies are not very robust but every once in a while I find myself wearing an immobilizing sportsbra to work)b

thanks, I like JJill's stuff, but no underwire=bouncing Jenny Jones guest (particularly not optimal for client meetings). And WTF is with this new trend of padded bras for the already-bosomy--like we want to walk into a room a half hour after our racks do?

On drugging someone else's screaming kids--does that stuff come in a handy spray-can I can tuck in my purse?Back to top
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:41 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tanks, & drugging kidlets
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pursejunkie wrote:
no underwire=bouncing Jenny Jones guest (particularly not optimal for client meetings).

On drugging someone else's screaming kids--does that stuff come in a handy spray-can I can tuck in my purse?

bouncing is bad.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:47 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Now who hasn't wanted to do this?
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MangoLassi wrote:

This is f'ing BRILLIANT! My fantasy! (Not the being arrested part, of course.)

Mango, just FYI. You can swear on this board. In fact, you must - I believe it's rule 2063. The freedom to indulge in profanity is what brought us here. It's the reason Morgan, Leagl, Slave & MR stayed up all last night fixing the board. I'm sure they will be very upset if you don't reward their hard work.

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Replaced_Texan
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:52 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tanks, & drugging kidlets
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pursejunkie wrote:
ltlfb wrote:
infinitytrack wrote:
There is another option that does not involve display of bra straps.

Lecherous sadist. That can be painful. Particularly for someone who needs underwire (but, pj, if you don't, jjill has a bunch of non-underwire tanks with built in bras).

f(generally, puppies are not very robust but every once in a while I find myself wearing an immobilizing sportsbra to work)b

thanks, I like JJill's stuff, but no underwire=bouncing Jenny Jones guest (particularly not optimal for client meetings). And WTF is with this new trend of padded bras for the already-bosomy--like we want to walk into a room a half hour after our racks do?

On drugging someone else's screaming kids--does that stuff come in a handy spray-can I can tuck in my purse?

I was recently handed a "lined" bra with lots of what I would call padding when I loudly complained that it seems that all bras these days are padded. It should go without saying that anyone who looks at me, including and especially retailers in lingerie shops, should know that I don't need padding whether it's called lining or some other term.

I'm pretty sure that my parents used to spike juice on a regular basis when I was a kid. They had four kids under the age of six, I think they were justified if only to prevent infanticide. We used to call Creme de Menthe "medicina" when we were little.

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I think the "lined" bras are for those who dread ever showing a hint of nipple. Frankly, I've never felt that self-conscious about it (the only person who ever mentions them--"Is it cold in here?"--is my non-self-censoring brother). I have a sister who favors them.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:56 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Now who hasn't wanted to do this?
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:

This is f'ing BRILLIANT! My fantasy! (Not the being arrested part, of course.)

Mango, just FYI. You can swear on this board. In fact, you must - I believe it's rule 2063. The freedom to indulge in profanity is what brought us here. It's the reason Morgan, Leagl, Slave & MR stayed up all last night fixing the board. I'm sure they will be very upset if you don't reward their hard work.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:56 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Ok I've figured out emoticons
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
But I have no idea how to quote. Could someone please fix the code in my post and tell me what I did wrong.

You missed the closing bracket next to the name after "mangolassi"].

I'd fix it but we're having a problem with local mod powers, i.e., I have none.
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Replaced_Texan
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 3:56 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Now who hasn't wanted to do this?
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:

This is f'ing BRILLIANT! My fantasy! (Not the being arrested part, of course.)

Mango, just FYI. You can swear on this board. In fact, you must - I believe it's rule 2063. The freedom to indulge in profanity is what brought us here. It's the reason Morgan, Leagl, Slave & MR stayed up all last night fixing the board. I'm sure they will be very upset if you don't reward their hard work.

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Replaced_Texan
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This is the best fucking emoticon I've ever seen in my life.

I love this new board.

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tmdiva wrote:
I think the "lined" bras are for those who dread ever showing a hint of nipple. Frankly, I've never felt that self-conscious about it (the only person who ever mentions them--"Is it cold in here?"--is my non-self-censoring brother). I have a sister who favors them.

tm

Your sister favors a hint of nipple? She'd be very popular round here...

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Check out http://www.mysmilies.com/ for an unbelievable amount of emoticons of all shapes and sizes. Pretty much every occassion you could think of is covered there.Back to top
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:01 pm__ _Post subject: Re: tanks, & drugging kidlets
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Replaced_Texan wrote:

I'm pretty sure that my parents used to spike juice on a regular basis when I was a kid. They had four kids under the age of six, I think they were justified if only to prevent infanticide. We used to call Creme de Menthe "medicina" when we were little.

Actually, around the turn of the (19th-to-20th) centuries, a lot of "teething potions" for infants were basically just opium. Can't go wrong with that!

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Replaced_Texan wrote:
....looks like our mod editing powers are on hiatus right now.

It's anarchy!

Quick, someone post porn!Back to top
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BTW, are we ever going to get our avatars back?

Yes.
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Yay! Welcome Pushy.
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Yay! Welcome Pushy.

Thank you. It feels very nice, PLF, to be welcomed by you and to be one of the two people - not that you and I are people, puppy and flower - on the board to have our very own avatars.
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Replaced_Texan wrote:
Check out http://www.mysmilies.com/ for an unbelievable amount of emoticons of all shapes and sizes. Pretty much every occassion you could think of is covered there.

that site rules.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:38 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Yay!
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pushy the puppy wrote:

Thank you. It feels very nice, PLF, to be welcomed by you and to be one of the two people - not that you and I are people, puppy and flower - on the board to have our very own avatars.

I noticed that about the lack of avatars for the other suckers, I mean posters. Do you think you will ever get tired of ruling over these avatar-less peasants with an iron fist?

Don't bother answering that, for I already know what you will say.

Me neither.
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Alex_de_Large wrote:
Replaced_Texan wrote:
Check out http://www.mysmilies.com/ for an unbelievable amount of emoticons of all shapes and sizes. Pretty much every occassion you could think of is covered there.

that site rules.

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pushy the puppy wrote:
Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
Yay! Welcome Pushy.

Thank you. It feels very nice, PLF, to be welcomed by you and to be one of the two people - not that you and I are people, puppy and flower - on the board to have our very own avatars.

I, for one, am impressed by your avatars.

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Replaced_Texan wrote:
Alex_de_Large wrote:
Replaced_Texan wrote:
Check out http://www.mysmilies.com/ for an unbelievable amount of emoticons of all shapes and sizes. Pretty much every occassion you could think of is covered there.

that site rules.

It's the hallmark store of emoticons

I love this one:
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EvenOdds wrote:
But why is Pushy's so much bigger than the Flower's?

The size of the image in the sig depends on the size of the source file.
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Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:

I noticed that about the lack of avatars for the other suckers, I mean posters. Do you think you will ever get tired of ruling over these avatar-less peasants with an iron fist?

Don't bother answering that, for I already know what you will say.

Me neither.

I see that ADL has dragged himself up from the sewage-ridden trenches of the avatarless caste to share in our power. Our triumvirate of avatars shall shake the board with menace and power. Especially with the Damoclesean threat of the pointy tip of your princess hat lingering over their heads.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:48 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Yay!
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pushy the puppy wrote:
Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:

I noticed that about the lack of avatars for the other suckers, I mean posters. Do you think you will ever get tired of ruling over these avatar-less peasants with an iron fist?

Don't bother answering that, for I already know what you will say.

Me neither.

I see that ADL has dragged himself up from the sewage-ridden trenches of the avatarless caste to share in our power. Our triumvirate of avatars shall shake the board with menace and power. Especially with the Damoclesean threat of the pointy tip of your princess hat lingering over their heads.

Speak for yourself, Pushy. I'm just bored.
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More emoticons (blame it on Replaced Texaan for posting that site)

Now this is an emoticon that we should find a use for...

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 4:51 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Yay!
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EvenOdds wrote:

But why is Pushy's so much bigger than the Flower's?

Why is it always about size with these FB chicks?
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Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
EvenOdds wrote:

But why is Pushy's so much bigger than the Flower's?

Why is it always about size with these FB chicks?

Hey, size does matter.

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I dunno. PLF's avatar's head is pointy on the end, and Pushy's has big protuberances on it.

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[You're right - the - I think this one was on one of the commercials so maybe she had higher damages since everyone in the free world saw her...um...performance? Maybe none of the girls gone wild thinks to sue.

-TL

OF course, maybe the rest didn't run out to rent Girls Gone Wild at blockbuster to find out if their TITS made it onto the video tape. But when your dad sees his daughter while watching the Fishin' channel, and calls your attention to it, you might think about suing.Back to top
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Actual legal topic -- the outcome of the Victor's Little Secret case seems to have escaped our attention in all of the board migration confusion. Victoria's Secret lost. They deserved it because their stuff sucks.

And does AdL's avatar freak anybody else out? Is there an emoticon for heebie-jeebies? Merely reading the name doesn't have the same effect, I guess.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 5:25 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Random but not entirely unrelated thoughts
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Actual legal topic -- the outcome of the Victor's Little Secret case seems to have escaped our attention in all of the board migration confusion. Victoria's Secret lost. They deserved it because their stuff sucks.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 5:31 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Random but not entirely unrelated thoughts
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Just the thought of A Clockwork Orange gives me nightmares. That movie makes the Accused look like When Harry Met Sally.

The Accused looked like neither Harry nor Sally. Rather, they looked like the splatter-core band that they were:

Ollie (oh, wait, you meant that movie with Jodi Foster, didn't you) Ramone

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 5:48 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Random but not entirely unrelated thoughts
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robustpuppy wrote:
Just the thought of A Clockwork Orange gives me nightmares. That movie makes the Accused look like When Harry Met Sally.

The Accused looked like neither Harry nor Sally. Rather, they looked like the splatter-core band that they were:

Ollie (oh, wait, you meant that movie with Jodi Foster, didn't you) Ramone

[edited to fix pic, though I have no idea why it didn't work before -- The Omnipotent Not Bob]

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I decided I've been a refugee long enough and would be, from henceforth, Fugee, although I may register as the old name too to avoid any future confusion.

But it is me, the former NYC_Refugee, with a new handle for the new Board.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 5:55 pm__ _Post subject: Welcome Fugee!
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'Bout goddam time you showed your wing-nut ass over here. I don't think there was anybody around that I could offend.

Now if you could just find a way to drag DS and the love-of-your life to the new boards...

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I decided I've been a refugee long enough and would be, from henceforth, Fugee, although I may register as the old name too to avoid any future confusion.

But it is me, the former NYC_Refugee, with a new handle for the new Board.

Now, it's really starting to feel like home.

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I decided I've been a refugee long enough and would be, from henceforth, Fugee, although I may register as the old name too to avoid any future confusion.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 6:20 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Releases Gone Wild
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Mmmm,Burger(C.J.) wrote:
TexLex wrote:
[You're right - the - I think this one was on one of the commercials so maybe she had higher damages since everyone in the free world saw her...um...performance? Maybe none of the girls gone wild thinks to sue.

-TL

OF course, maybe the rest didn't run out to rent Girls Gone Wild at blockbuster to find out if their TITS made it onto the video tape. But when your dad sees his daughter while watching the Fishin' channel, and calls your attention to it, you might think about suing.

Mmmmmm....old British fogeys definitely don't watch the fishing channel and I doubt they play the GGW commercial on the BBC.

robustpuppy wrote:
And does AdL's avatar freak anybody else out? Is there an emoticon for heebie-jeebies? Merely reading the name doesn't have the same effect, I guess.

Yes. Both the heebies and the jeebies. Can you make it smaller? (Never thought I would say that before!)

Fugee wrote:
But it is me, the former NYC_Refugee, with a new handle for the new Board.

Welcome back!

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On a completely other note, am I the only person whose gaydar goes into the red zone every time Ed Smart opens his mouth? If I'm all alone on this one, might have to take it into the shop for a tuneup.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 6:28 pm__ _Post subject: Gaydar Alert
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On a completely other note, am I the only person whose gaydar goes into the red zone every time Ed Smart opens his mouth? If I'm all alone on this one, might have to take it into the shop for a tuneup.

tm

No - mine keeps registering off the meter as well - and not just when he opens his mouth.

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Howard Stern Sues ABC Over 'Are You Hot?'
Fri Mar 14,10:51 AM ET

LOS ANGELES - Shock jock Howard Stern sued ABC and the producers of the reality series "Are You Hot?" claiming the show is based on his ideas that aired on his radio program and it ruined his chances for his own TV deal.

The lawsuit, filed Thursday in Superior Court, accuses the network of copying the "unique aspects" of a Stern radio segment in which members of his crew and guests evaluate the bodies of in-studio contestants.

Stern claims that some of the tactics used on his show were duplicated by ABC's version. Some of the alleged similarities include blunt criticism of contestants and the use of a laser pointer to highlight areas of the contestant's body.

"Are You Hot?" features contestants in various stages of dress posing in front of a three-judge panel who rate them solely on looks. The show is produced by Scott Einziger, a former executive producer of Stern's E! cable show. Former Stern sidekick Jackie Martling is listed as a consultant for the show.

Before the ABC show debuted, Stern was in talks to develop a TV series based on his radio segment, according to the suit. He planned to broadcast the show possibly on a pay-cable channel that wouldn't be subject to censorship.

But when ABC aired "Are You Hot?" talks for a Stern TV show collapsed, the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit said Stern warned the network that the series would be a "misappropriation," but that ABC disregarded him.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:19 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Exciting new lawsuit
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Stern claims that some of the tactics used on his show were duplicated by ABC's version. Some of the alleged similarities include blunt criticism of contestants and the use of a laser pointer to highlight areas of the contestant's body.

Right. Because the whole concept of judging another person's hotness is Stern's realm alone. And no one ever bluntly criticizes anyone nor highlights the contestant's body (hello, sorority hazing?). He clearly came up with this idea. Give me a fucking break.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:35 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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TexLex wrote:
tmdiva wrote:
On a completely other note, am I the only person whose gaydar goes into the red zone every time Ed Smart opens his mouth? If I'm all alone on this one, might have to take it into the shop for a tuneup.

tm

No - mine keeps registering off the meter as well - and not just when he opens his mouth.

-TL

I was getting slammed on the FL board for criticizing the smarts. They may have some legit criticism of the police, but these people are not exactly normal. I really feel sorry for their kids and think the smarts are throwing stones in a glass house when they call anyone else religious fanatics.

This case is incredibly disturbing to me for a variety of reasons. The last report I read on www.cnn.com, reports that Lois Smart approached the kidnapper and invited him to her house to work on the roof. CNN says that "Lois gave him $5 and asked him if he wanted to come up and do some work. She was impressed by him," the uncle said." WTF?!?! What the hell is wrong with these people. And all the media press conferences and pictures of the kid that they are releasing to the press is scaring the fuck out of me.

Let me know if anyone wants me to move the discussion over here.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:50 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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CNN says that "Lois gave him $5 and asked him if he wanted to come up and do some work. She was impressed by him," the uncle said." WTF?!?! What the hell is wrong with these people.

I gotta admit, I was thinking something similar. Perhaps I'm just too jaded, but I don't think I'd ever invite someone over to my home to do work like that. I'm also a privacy hound 99% of the time and hate for others to know my business, so I just don't like people I don't know fairly well to come into my home or property, but jeez.

I'd say it's a patch thing to just be trusting, but it could also have been a way to get really cheap labor.

My gaydar doesn't go off, though, with Ed Smart, FWIW.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:57 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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JustForFun wrote:
CNN says that "Lois gave him $5 and asked him if he wanted to come up and do some work. She was impressed by him," the uncle said." WTF?!?! What the hell is wrong with these people.

I gotta admit, I was thinking something similar. Perhaps I'm just too jaded, but I don't think I'd ever invite someone over to my home to do work like that. I'm also a privacy hound 99% of the time and hate for others to know my business, so I just don't like people I don't know fairly well to come into my home or property, but jeez

C(trust no one)deuced

Hell, I barely got an invite to your house and I'm way more clean cut than that Emmanual fellow.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:01 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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Let me know if anyone wants me to move the discussion over here.

(edited for spelling to pre-empt the Timmies)

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...m/girl_coma_dc

Girl Emerges from Coma During Bryan Adams Concert
Wed Mar 12, 4:30 PM ET Add Health - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Michael Leidig

MUNICH (Reuters Health) - A young woman left in a coma for six years after she collapsed at school has started to respond to the world around her after her mother took her to see her pop star hero Bryan Adams perform live.

Christiane Kittel, now 24, was left in a vegetative state after her collapse on 12 June 1997. Doctors believe her condition was caused by a combination of hot weather, a hereditary hemophilia condition and side-effects of the contraceptive pill.

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:30 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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And all the media press conferences and pictures of the kid that they are releasing to the press is scaring the fuck out of me.

That hard-hitting news program, Access Hollywood, had an item with the family's spokesperson saying they were accepting written proposals for TV movies.

Blech. I'm worried about that beautiful girl. She looks haunted to me.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:30 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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Quote:
JustForFun wrote:

Let me know if anyone wants me to move the discussion over here.

(edited for spelling to pre-empt the Timmies)

Should I do a political poll of the day on this issue???!?!?!?!?!?[/quote]

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:40 pm__ _Post subject: POLITICAL POLL OF THE WEEKEND!
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JustForFun wrote:
Penske_Account wrote:
Quote:

Should I do a political poll of the day on this issue???!?!?!?!?!?

I assume you are kidding. .

Nope. See the new Political Poll for the Weekend for Justforfun!!!

Vote early and often!

evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:47 AM

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:28 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLITICAL POLL OF THE WEEKEND!
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Penske_Account wrote:
JustForFun wrote:
Penske_Account wrote:
Quote:

Should I do a political poll of the day on this issue???!?!?!?!?!?

I assume you are kidding. .

Nope. See the new Political Poll for the Weekend for Justforfun!!!

Vote early and often!

Excellent poll, Penske.

As for the Ed Smart gaydar, the SO says that was the hotly debated topic at work today.

NTTAWWT

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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:53 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLITICAL POLL OF THE WEEKEND!
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Excellent poll, Penske.
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I'm also a privacy hound 99% of the time and hate for others to know my business

Fame without celebrity is a bitch of a line to draw in America's dust.

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hunted's OK. It's a straight ahead shoot em up. I liked the fight choreography because the hand to hand combat wasn't so close up or distorted that you couldn't actually see the action. I felt that way watching Gladiator and other things. I think that sucks. Jones is getting old for hand to hand combat roles. He'd get his head handed to him if he tried knife fighting with some 20-something gangbanger or the military equivalent. The acting is ok, but not great. Neither Jones nor toro were totally compelling; they were just going through the motions. Neither's work could touch Colin Farrell's in Daredevil. He was just awesome in that. Always something going on that you wanted to see.

And nyah, nyah, nyah Thurgreed. Omar Epps IS gonna be in a big movie that white people want to see. The trailer for "Against the Ropes" with Meg Ryan looks good. He looked good too. He looks a bit sleepy eyed, wesley snipes, but that worked for Mitchum.Back to top
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I noticed that about the lack of avatars for the other suckers, I mean posters. Do you think you will ever get tired of ruling over these avatar-less peasants with an iron fist?

Don't bother answering that, for I already know what you will say.

Me neither.

You can rule over the other suckers, I mean posters, but you can't rule over me with an iron paw, mr. Prancey Kitty. I have a mind that is as free and smart as a bird. But not one of those birbs that often falls prey to house cats and whose corpses are brought to the cat's senile and elderly owners as some sort of offering, but rather one of those large birds like an eagle or roc that is so large that it occassionally flies off with goats and small children as proof of its size. You and your puppy enforcer may be able to encase me in within the confines of source code or encase my brain in glass and pickle it with a delicious dill sauce, but you and your oppressive paws will never rule over the spirit of Connect the Dots, my feline friend. And when I say "feline" I mean it in an ironic way in order to confuse my enemy, but I mean "friend" in a sincere way, which is ironic.
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It's about as hard as the look RP was shooting for: beauty without lust.

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You can . . . but you can't . . . iron . . . Kitty. I have . . . bird . . . cats . . . corpses . . . eagle . . . goats and small children. [Y]our puppy enforcer may . . . encase me . . . and pickle . . . Connect the Dots. . . , which is ironic.

Your post was a bit wordy, but as you can see above, I got the gist.

On a related note, I went to see a band last night. A transsexual, leather-oriented glam rock band. Well to be fair, only two of the three musicians are transsexuals. But when the lead singer towers over the stage with [his] bare, amply breast-implanted chest painted blue, horrible looking scars where [his] nipples should be, and his hair flowing about as he howls his glam metal anthems, it seems like the whole band is transsexual, and you tend not to focus on the waifish girl in the flowing faux-fur shawl on bass. It is less easy to not notice the mohawked dancer to the right, because her heavily-tattooed body is clad only in a bikini, combat boots, and face paint. She and her fetishwear dancer friend on the left side of the stage writhe and yell and coo and tend to catch your eye. I have seen this band three or four times, but last night was the best because they were playing at the Walker Museum of Modern Art as part of a monthly party that the museum hosts. This meant that as the spectacle that is All The Pretty Horses unfolded before me, I had nicely clad young men and women coming up to me with trays of lovely hors-d'oevres. And it was then that I realized that there is nothing like trays of mini-quiches and gorgonzola bruschetta to complete the transsexual glam metal band experience.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:49 am__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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It's about as hard as the look RP was shooting for: beauty without lust.

robustpuppy wrote:
Huh? Are you talking about the debate over whether a suit can say both "hire me [as a BIGLAW lawyer]" and "fuck me"? If so, you are misstating my position. I wanted it to do both.

I thought you'd conceded that was impossible and settled for beauty without lust, like Condi Rice. Even if you can't strike that balance now, assuming you are pretty, it'll get easier as you age. There's plenty of old women I think are pretty but in no way sexualize.Back to top
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coup_d'skek wrote:
coup_d'skek wrote:
It's about as hard as the look RP was shooting for: beauty without lust.

robustpuppy wrote:
Huh? Are you talking about the debate over whether a suit can say both "hire me [as a BIGLAW lawyer]" and "fuck me"? If so, you are misstating my position. I wanted it to do both.

I thought you'd conceded that was impossible and settled for beauty without lust, like Condi Rice. Even if you can't strike that balance now, assuming you are pretty, it'll get easier as you age. There's plenty of old women I think are pretty but in no way sexualize.

My reactions:
1. Thanks for the edit.
2. I did not concede. I don't think it's impossible.
3. That's depressing. FTR, old men aren't sexy either, even if they're rich.
4. You're weird. (But I mean it in the nicest way!)

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Commute shoes

I don't know why women on the FB debate sneakers as commute shoes so often. I don't often see women wearing sneakers to work. But anyway, how about something along the lines of bowling shoes or sneakers reworked as shoes, like those below. They look nice enough to be worn with at least some levels of business casual.

These are supposedly shoes for guys, but excepting Atticus, I can't believe that:

[img] http://www.raffaello-network.com/ite...0927-nerot.jpg[/img]

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robustpuppy wrote:
2. I did not concede. I don't think it's impossible.

Michael Jordan hasn't conceded the state of his knees yet. But like another Michael, Chang, he will. So will you, puppy.

robustpuppy wrote:
3. That's depressing. FTR, old men aren't sexy either, even if they're rich.

It's not that they're not pretty, it's that I'm not old. I feel the same way about women in their early 20s, although I didn't when I *was* in my early 20's. Of course, those preferences aren't without their disadvantages. I've run an online dating ad before and the only unsolicited responses are from 22/23 year old women, and it has nothing to do with $$$.

robustpuppy wrote:
4. You're weird.

That's not without its advantages. Plated once said I was odd enough he believed I wasn't nowhitenoise.
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Commute shoes
http://www.raffaello-network.com/

This is a good website for window shopping, but the prices are as bad as retail. If the same shoes are available on bluefly.com or ventutto.com, they'll be way, way cheaper.

By the way, those who wear "commute shoes" are Unclear On The Concept, exactly like people who keep plastic on their furniture. The whole point of shoes is to be seen & be beautiful, thus enhancing one's whole ensemble and, it follows, property value.

Oh, and fuck comfort.

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MangoLassi wrote:
By the way, those who wear "commute shoes" are Unclear On The Concept

You must make allowances for heavy rain and snow. The finish on galoshes or water resistant walking shoes isn't ruined by either, the finish on handmade dress shoes is.

MangoLassi wrote:
The whole point of shoes is to be seen & be beautiful, thus enhancing one's whole ensemble and, it follows, property value.

Clothes and shoes don't make the wearer beautiful, the wearer does that, or not, on their own. Clothes and shoes do, however, show social status. And along those lines, men dress to impress women, and women dress to impress each other. (Of course there are those as solipsistic as myself that dress to please themselves.)

MangoLassi wrote:
Oh, and fuck comfort. (Seriously, there's a comfy pair of Pradas out there for everyone.)

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coup_d'skek wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:
The whole point of shoes is to be seen & be beautiful, thus enhancing one's whole ensemble and, it follows, property value.

Clothes and shoes don't make the wearer beautiful, the wearer does that, or not, on their own.

Oh, Coup, quit being so damn earnest. It's unfashionable.

coup_d'skek wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:
Oh, and fuck comfort. (Seriously, there's a comfy pair of Pradas out there for everyone.)

American feet are relatively wide, so if Prada runs narrow (I wouldn't know that's Penske-country), don't be so sure.

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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 6:53 pm__ _Post subject: Vintage Dior
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Sigh. I just received the distressing news that my mother threw out one of her debutante gowns the other day. Vintage Dior. Sigh.

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Coup-kee,

I don't care how fashionable those shoes are supposed to be, they are fugly. Those shoes are uglier than the shoes my sainted mother bought for me from the Sears Catalog when I was in the 7th grade -- during the height of our Thom McAn Earth Shoes "everybody has them, therefore I must" vs. "if everyone were jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge, etc." debate. It was the Cuban Missile Crisis of our relationship. (I guess I would be Kruschev, as I lost that one. I didn't get the much-desired Earth shoes until much later, when I had acquired a paper route and could buy them myself.)

I would rather have gone to school wearing nothing than wearing those shoes.

My mother had otherwise excellent taste (in retrospect, of course, she was right about the Earth Shoes), but I don't know what was going on with those shoes. Honestly, the Sears Catalog!

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:35 am__ _Post subject: Re: Commute shoes
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coup_d'skek wrote:
American feet are relatively wide, so if Prada runs narrow (I wouldn't know that's Penske-country), don't be so sure.

MangoLassi wrote:
All I know is that my big wide Yank feet love their Pradas.

All I know is that Ferragamo generally uses lasts that are too narrow for my feet, and bruno magli is usually even worse. Church's really isn't much better, except that some come extra wide, "gimme an 'F'". Santoni's a different story, a better one. They know where their bread is buttered, America. Santoni uses wider lasts, and a "D" suits me fine.

Puppy wrote:
I don't care how fashionable those shoes are supposed to be, they are fugly.

Don't talk about Penske-style that way. And say what you will, but they're better than the commute shoes Debtslave's recommending on the old FB (something that looks like basic Vans).

Puppy wrote:
I would rather have gone to school wearing nothing than wearing those shoes.

Not my style either, I wear shoes with laced on soles and toes that are neither too round, nor too pointy, nor too square. But if the puppy's choice is something as unwalkable as heels, or a straight outa Penske's closet, bowling-like or sneaker-like shoe, I'm guessing she sucks it up and goes Penske-style.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:56 am__ _Post subject: Re: Gaydar Alert
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coup_d'skek wrote:
I thought you'd conceded that was impossible and settled for beauty without lust, like Condi Rice. Even if you can't strike that balance now, assuming you are pretty, it'll get easier as you age. There's plenty of old women I think are pretty but in no way sexualize.

robustpuppy wrote:
My reactions:
2. I did not concede. I don't think it's impossible.

I also have to disagree with the skekster -- as I think I noted in the original thread, I have interviewed chicks who wore suits that said both "hire me!" and "throw me across your desk and make the earth move!"

Granted, I think that it's a hard (ha-ha) balance to strike, and one not seen too often, but it is doable. There's also the risk that the suit may say those things to the wrong people, but I guess that most women have some experience at correcting the misunderstandings of deluded men -- "my suit may have been saying that, but it certainly wasn't talking to you."Back to top
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JustForFun
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:11 am__ _Post subject: Fuck Me Clothes
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Not_Bob wrote:
I also have to disagree with the skekster -- as I think I noted in the original thread, I have interviewed chicks who wore suits that said both "hire me!" and "throw me across your desk and make the earth move!"

Granted, I think that it's a hard (ha-ha) balance to strike, and one not seen too often, but it is doable. There's also the risk that the suit may say those things to the wrong people, but I guess that most women have some experience at correcting the misunderstandings of deluded men -- "my suit may have been saying that, but it certainly wasn't talking to you."

If by "wrong people" you mean men, surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly) I think that men are the least of your worries when you wear clothes that send that message. I happen to have a nice body, and I do my best to keep it well covered and hidden from view when at work. I do that because it attracts negative attention from women, not from men. The men I can deal with, just like you say. But the women are much harder to deal with.

There is only so much you can do to hide your body. So, even if you don't wear "fuck me" clothes like you are describing, if you have a nice enough body, you still attract negative attention - from women, though, not from men.

Surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly), it does not attract negative attention from the life-long unattractive or overweight women. Those women who become the most enraged by seeing a woman with a nice body are those who were cute and thin at some point in their life and now are not.

I am not out to find a boyfriend or husband at work, so it is fine with me to keep my body to myself. But even when you try to keep it to yourself, there are people that will try to figure out what you look like under your clothes anyway. And all too often it is women who are apparently pissed off because they never learned to exercise.

It is extraordinarily unfortunate that women like that exist, but they do. However, like I said before, I find it is never a woman who has been what men consider to be unattractive or over weight her whole life who is like that. It is always the women who at some point in their life were cute and attracted male attention and now do not. Why they don't spend more time getting off their fat asses and jogging than they do worrying what someone else looks like is beyond me.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:42 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, you fat bitch. Back to top
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Sparklehorse
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:42 am__ _Post subject: Thom McAn earth shoes
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robustpuppy wrote:
...the height of our Thom McAn Earth Shoes "everybody has them, therefore I must" vs. "if everyone were jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge, etc." debate. It was the Cuban Missile Crisis of our relationship. (I guess I would be Kruschev, as I lost that one. ...

RP

RP,

I had a very similar experience with the Thom McAn fake earth shoes in 6th grade! And I agree with you regarding the bowling shoes. Who will seriously say those look better with a suit than a pair of running shoes? People might think that I believe those match, with the running shoes, it's obvious that I know they don't. Caveat: I don't defend the running shoe with suit look as being in any way fashion-conscience. Maybe it's blasphemy here, but sometimes, who cares about fashion?Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:50 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes; strappy tanks for the stacked
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JustForFun wrote:
Surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly), it does not attract negative attention from the life-long unattractive or overweight women. Those women who become the most enraged by seeing a woman with a nice body are those who were cute and thin at some point in their life and now are not.

They're pissed off because they think you might be getting a sexuality-based advantage in the workplace that they used to think they had (why one would want one is beyond me, as your marketability to moron middle-aged partners presumably then drops like a rock once you pass their daughters' ages.) But there's no way to hide a fit or curvaceous body without wearing enough fabric to look like you're six months' knocked up, and why would you want to to satisfy some insecure nit's ego? I do, however, draw the line at women anything low-cut at work--take it and your paramour into the utility closet, honey!

JustForFun, was it you who recommended bravissimo? I ordered two of their underwire tanks and will update the FB on whether they're worth it!

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:51 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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robustpuppy wrote:
JustForFun wrote:
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, you fat bitch.

POTD.

RP, will you be my new best friend?Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:53 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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robustpuppy wrote:
JustForFun wrote:
Don't hate me because I'm beautiful, you fat bitch.
I would NEVER call someone a fat bitch. Unless they called me a skinny bitch first, that is. Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:53 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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bold_n_brazen wrote:
RP, will you be my new best friend?

Only if you're not better looking than I am.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:56 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
blah blah blah blah blah

Those women who become the most enraged by seeing a woman with a nice body are those who were cute and thin at some point in their life and now are not.

blah blah blah

But even when you try to keep it to yourself, there are people that will try to figure out what you look like under your clothes anyway. And all too often it is women who are apparently pissed off because they never learned to exercise.

It is extraordinarily unfortunate that women like that exist, but they do. However, like I said before, I find it is never a woman who has been what men consider to be unattractive or over weight her whole life who is like that. It is always the women who at some point in their life were cute and attracted male attention and now do not. Why they don't spend more time getting off their fat asses and jogging than they do worrying what someone else looks like is beyond me.

Interesting. I have been on this planet some 30 odd years and worked for about 13-14 years and have never encountered a woman who has become enraged upon seeing my body, abundantly clothed or otherwise. Perhaps my body is just not as fiiiiine as yours. My suggestion is just to ignore these heinous bitches.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:00 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
There is only so much you can do to hide your body. So, even if you don't wear "fuck me" clothes like you are describing, if you have a nice enough body, you still attract negative attention - from women, though, not from men.

I'm Not A Woman (though I play one on TV)(hahahaha! now *that* was unintentionally even funnier than I planned!), so I can't really argue with your experience with why negative attention comes from other women.

But I wasn't really talking about wearing "fuck me" clothes at work. Or "hire me" clothes. One or the other are pretty easy to find. Anything in leather, for example, probably qualifies.

It's the search for some combination of the two that started the thread. RP was looking for a suit that said both. coup d'skek said that such a suit was a mythical creature. I disagreed, saying that I had interviewed a few women who seemed to have found the look.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:02 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes; strappy tanks for the stacked
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pursejunkie wrote:
They're pissed off because they think you might be getting a sexuality-based advantage in the workplace that they used to think they had (why one would want one is beyond me, as your marketability to moron middle-aged partners presumably then drops like a rock once you pass their daughters' ages.) But there's no way to hide a fit or curvaceous body without wearing enough fabric to look like you're six months' knocked up, and why would you want to to satisfy some insecure nit's ego? I do, however, draw the line at women anything low-cut at work--take it and your paramour into the utility closet, honey!

JustForFun, was it you who recommended bravissimo? I ordered two of their underwire tanks and will update the FB on whether they're worth it!

As a feminist, it pisses me off that they are pissed off. Trust me on this one, the men that they are interested in, aren't interested in a feminist like me. Everyone on the politics board thinks I am a guy, which is incredibly amusing to me, and if I had more time, I would try to analyze what it all means.

I did post the link for bravissimo, but with the caveat that I have never ordered from them. I have had them recommended to me by others who have ordered and I am thinking of ordering. However, right now it is too cold for me to even think about wearing a tank top. Keep me posted on how you like their stuff. When it gets warm enough for me to order a tank top, I am going to check out their stuff. Too bad their lingerie is really ugly.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:04 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes; strappy tanks for the stacked
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JustForFun wrote:
As a feminist, it pisses me off that they are pissed off.

Huh?!

R(is there an emoticon for the Jon Stewart head shake of stunned confusion?)PBack to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:16 am__ _Post subject: Re: Vintage Dior
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c2ed wrote:
Sigh. I just received the distressing news that my mother threw out one of her debutante gowns the other day. Vintage Dior. Sigh.

C(another gorgeous gown, gone)deuced

I am not sure if I am queasy from too much coffee without enough soy creamer or from reading this post. Just how many times was mummy debbed? Unless you are from the suburbs of the only City That Matters, I would think once.

I am a little distressed that I have to throw in sorority member and daughter of someone with multiple deb gowns into my image of diamone hard nips that can hang towels when I think of csquared.

Dont mind me, I just have a case of the Mondays.

evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:51 AM

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:17 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Interesting. I have been on this planet some 30 odd years and worked for about 13-14 years and have never encountered a woman who has become enraged upon seeing my body, abundantly clothed or otherwise. Perhaps my body is just not as fiiiiine as yours. My suggestion is just to ignore these heinous bitches.

I am what I describe as a runner who also eats. I am also, several years older than you, and therein seems to lie the problem. When I was younger, this never was an issue. When I was younger, everyone seemed to look the same - we all looked pretty good. Now that I am older, there seems to be much more of a disparity between me and others of my age.

So if you younger women want any advice, my advice to you is to run AND eat. And weight train. That seems to be the key. If you exercise and don't eat properly, that is no good. You will look gaunt, and while gaunt might be a good look when you are 22 (I am not saying it is, but you have to admit that there are those who do say that it is), it is not a good look at all more than a decade later.

The bottom line is that if you want to age well, you are going to have to work at. Take the time to eat right and exercise.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:21 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Interesting. I have been on this planet some 30 odd years and worked for about 13-14 years and have never encountered a woman who has become enraged upon seeing my body, abundantly clothed or otherwise. Perhaps my body is just not as fiiiiine as yours. My suggestion is just to ignore these heinous bitches.

I am what I describe as a runner who also eats. I am also, several years older than you, and therein seems to lie the problem. When I was younger, this never was an issue. When I was younger, everyone seemed to look the same - we all looked pretty good. Now that I am older, there seems to be much more of a disparity between me and others of my age.

So if you younger women want any advice, my advice to you is to run AND eat. And weight train. That seems to be the key. If you exercise and don't eat properly, that is no good. You will look gaunt, and while gaunt might be a good look when you are 22 (I am not saying it is, but you have to admit that there are those who do say that it is), it is not a good look at all more than a decade later.

The bottom line is that if you want to age well, you are going to have to work at. Take the time to eat right and exercise.

Trust me, GWNC doesn't need any advice from you on how to be attractive.

But you could probably take some hints from her on how to be beautiful and yet not a raving bitch at the same time.Back to top
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:22 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
Not_Bob wrote:
I also have to disagree with the skekster -- as I think I noted in the original thread, I have interviewed chicks who wore suits that said both "hire me!" and "throw me across your desk and make the earth move!"

Granted, I think that it's a hard (ha-ha) balance to strike, and one not seen too often, but it is doable. There's also the risk that the suit may say those things to the wrong people, but I guess that most women have some experience at correcting the misunderstandings of deluded men -- "my suit may have been saying that, but it certainly wasn't talking to you."

If by "wrong people" you mean men, surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly) I think that men are the least of your worries when you wear clothes that send that message. I happen to have a nice body, and I do my best to keep it well covered and hidden from view when at work. I do that because it attracts negative attention from women, not from men. The men I can deal with, just like you say. But the women are much harder to deal with.

There is only so much you can do to hide your body. So, even if you don't wear "fuck me" clothes like you are describing, if you have a nice enough body, you still attract negative attention - from women, though, not from men.

Surprisingly (or maybe not surprisingly), it does not attract negative attention from the life-long unattractive or overweight women. Those women who become the most enraged by seeing a woman with a nice body are those who were cute and thin at some point in their life and now are not.

I am not out to find a boyfriend or husband at work, so it is fine with me to keep my body to myself. But even when you try to keep it to yourself, there are people that will try to figure out what you look like under your clothes anyway. And all too often it is women who are apparently pissed off because they never learned to exercise.

It is extraordinarily unfortunate that women like that exist, but they do. However, like I said before, I find it is never a woman who has been what men consider to be unattractive or over weight her whole life who is like that. It is always the women who at some point in their life were cute and attracted male attention and now do not. Why they don't spend more time getting off their fat asses and jogging than they do worrying what someone else looks like is beyond me.

Heidi from Survivor???? Hey girl, why did you bail on your sisters and vote with the cavemen? You know thats only goonna fuck you int he end, you dumbass.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:25 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes; strappy tanks for the stacked
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robustpuppy wrote:
JustForFun wrote:
As a feminist, it pisses me off that they are pissed off.

Huh?!

R(is there an emoticon for the Jon Stewart head shake of stunned confusion?)P

Ditto. I don't get what you don't get. As a feminist, I want us to all get along. But as a realist, I have to admit that we don't, and a very large part of the problem is that not all of us are feminist.

The most perplexing part of it all to me is that the men that they want, don't want a feminist like me.

I learned a long time ago that having a mind and an opinion negates having a hot body for alot of guys. Wish it didn't, but it does. On second thought, no I don't. It serves as a good screening tool.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:26 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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Paigow and Barely, settle down now, it's obvious that you're just jealous.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:32 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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barely_legal wrote:

Trust me, GWNC doesn't need any advice from you on how to be attractive.

But you could probably take some hints from her on how to be beautiful and yet not a raving bitch at the same time.

Wouldn't know what GWNC looks like. But I never said I was beautiful. I said I work hard at staying fit and healthy and that I cover up how I look at work, but that it doesn't always work. I also added to Not Bob's idea that wearing suggestive clothing at work would get you into trouble with men. It will also get you into trouble with women. I don't wear suggestive clothes at work, but even if you don't wear suggestive clothes, you still can run into problems.Back to top
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coup_d'skek wrote:
And nyah, nyah, nyah Thurgreed. Omar Epps IS gonna be in a big movie that white people want to see. The trailer for "Against the Ropes" with Meg Ryan looks good. He looked good too. He looks a bit sleepy eyed, wesley snipes, but that worked for Mitchum.

Ummmm, this is one of the rare occassions where I enjoy being wrong.

But, I saw the trailer for this flick. I'm not sure how many white people will buy Meg Ryan as a boxing promoter. And who's he playing? The black fighter trying to claw his way out of the ghetto. It's not exactly a "Cider House Rules," role now is it? [Actually, I wouldn't know. I haven't seen Cider House Rules. Just an educated guess.]

But, as always, I hope it opens things up for him and others.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:36 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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robustpuppy wrote:
Paigow and Barely, settle down now, it's obvious that you're just jealous.

You bitch! I hate you and your robust puppies and lithe firm body! You are probably a feminist too! I hate feminists with hot bodies! I am fat and ugly and want a man to take care of me -- luckily I am also stupid and have no ideas of my own, so it should be easy to find a shlub to marry me. Of course, he will be picturing your gorgeous body in his head as he is screwing my grotesque Kathy Bates body, but at least I will never have to worry about him leaving me b/c no man wants to be with an attractive woman who has her own mind! Thank God!Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:38 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
barely_legal wrote:

Trust me, GWNC doesn't need any advice from you on how to be attractive.

But you could probably take some hints from her on how to be beautiful and yet not a raving bitch at the same time.

Wouldn't know what GWNC looks like. But I never said I was beautiful. I said I work hard at staying fit and healthy and that I cover up how I look at work, but that it doesn't always work. I also added to Not Bob's idea that wearing suggestive clothing at work would get you into trouble with men. It will also get you into trouble with women. I don't wear suggestive clothes at work, but even if you don't wear suggestive clothes, you still can run into problems.

Actually, what I think you said was that you havea nice body. Darlin, when you get to be a little FB older, I think you will learn that boasting about one's ASSets will only amke you the subject of much ridickule and possibly the target of a My Name Is Just For Fun And I Love My Body sock. Which is not the same thing as a Body stocking that you might put on your goregous bod. But , on the upside, Lester will probably be buying you lots of drinks.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:41 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes; strappy tanks for the stacked
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I was perplexed because the tone of your post struck me as a little, well, misogynistic. You explained other womens' behavior in terms of their looks and their reactions to yours. That seems demeaning to me. I'm not saying that to be a feminist you have to love all other women, or that you haven't encountered petty, jealous women and men in your life and in the workplace. Haven't we all?

I am a feminist, too, but perhaps the difference in our views on this point is just a matter of personality rather than politics. See, when my mother told me that other women were so bitchy to me because they were jealous, I chalked it up to mother love rather than adopting it as a philosophy.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:44 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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barely_legal wrote:
b/c no man wants to be with an attractive woman who has her own mind! Thank God!

Didn't say that either. There are men who want to be with an attractive woman who has a bright mind. They just aren't in the majority and unfortunately, many of them aren't attractive themselves. See, all men want to be with an attractive woman, regardless of whether they themselves are attractive. I need to be with a man who wants to be with a woman who has a bright mind AND who also has a bright mind and is attractive himself. THAT kind of man, you have to admit, is not a dime a dozen.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:46 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
I need to be with a man who wants to be with a woman who has a bright mind AND who also has a bright mind and is attractive himself. THAT kind of man, you have to admit, is not a dime a dozen.

Actually, I meet that kind of man all the time. And I already know a good deal of men who fall into that category.

THAT kind of man, however, has no interest in the kind of woman you are.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:47 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:
I happen to have a nice body, and I do my best to keep it well covered and hidden from view when at work...There is only so much you can do to hide your body. So, even if you don't wear "fuck me" clothes like you are describing, if you have a nice enough body, you still attract negative attention - from women, though, not from men.

Well, if this doesn't get Less over here, nothing will.

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pursejunkie
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robustpuppy
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:21 am__ _Post subject: Re: Soy Psychosis
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pursejunkie wrote:
Plus, you made me agree with Thurgreed, so now I hate your f#$%^ng guts right back atcha.

Face it junkie, the real reason you hate PP is that she's hot. And the soy made her that way.

R (yes, I can say dead horse) P
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JustForFun
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:22 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck me suit
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Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
But let's face it. You are all lawyers who make their friends through the internet.

Not me. I've made nothing but enemies here. I do my best to piss off and offend anyone I can for any reason at all here. It is a great respite from my real life where I am way too fucking nice.Back to top
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Not_Bob
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:22 am__ _Post subject: Hemp -- the fiber of the future.
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paigowprincess wrote:
Just bc your exposure to soy comes from Starbucks jumping on the bandwagon doesnt mean that it is some trend for the SUV driving, McMansion owning, Michele Branch listening, Scrubs watching suburbanites.

Jesus. I went 4 for 4 (well, 3.5 for 4 -- the Podunkville Harbour Estates Towne Centre subdivision is just a notch or two down from full-blown McMansion status).

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greatwhitenorthchick
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:26 am__ _Post subject: Re: GWNC
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Just for you, GWNC:

Zader Kaiiiiii
Zader Kai, my friend
'Neath the elms we sing our tomes
We're brothers to the end

Muffy in the bathroom stall
Margaret by the lake
Susan down in Whitley Hall
Constance on the make

Constance Frye, Constance Frye
Anytime you call
Constance will fulfill your needs
Winter, Spring or Fall

TM

Oh wow. That is great! Now that is the kind of nice, going the extra-mile gesture that deserves something nice in return. A drink? A (non-recorded) flash of my tits?

(Barely deserves something nice too, but I'm not sure a flash of my tits would work for her. Of course, I have no idea of my ratio, so the sight of my tits could inspire massive gagging. Or, on the flip side, uncontrolled rage from flabby middle-aged women who did not learn to exercise in their youth. Or disdain from soy-munching surburbanites.)Back to top
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:29 am__ _Post subject: Re: Soy Psychosis
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pursejunkie wrote:

Forgot to take your Xanax with your soy grits this morning? It tastes disgusting in virtually every permutation I have health-conciously tried it in. If I'll die a little earlier at least I won't die having gacked down 10 years' worth of horrible meals.
This was a comment about *food preferences*, not a suggestion that we should euthanize people people who eat veggie burgers. WTF?

I just resent that someone would call the love of soy a trend. I am not seriously pissed. I was just mocking the ignorance of it all. And I dont hate you. In fact, from your posts, I think we have a lot in commong (except I am not a meat eating purse freak),. If you reall ywant to incorporate soy into your diet in a way other than pills (and the doc has my mom on soy supplements bc she is showing the beginning signs of osteoporosis fwiw), try this for breakfast (assuming you are like JustForFun and work out and have a nice body):

4 to 8 ozs fresh oj
4 to 8 ozs vanilla soy mils
4 egg whites
a half cup of strawberries
a half cup of blueberries
a kiwi
a bananan.

mix in a blender. voila, all your fruit for the day,. a ton of protein, and its delish!

I also recommend Amy's frozen Soy Cheeze pizzas from Whole Foods. Throw on some spinach, garlic cloves, drizzle with olive oil and roast. Deliscious.

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barely_legal
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:32 am__ _Post subject: Re: GWNC
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:

(Barely deserves something nice too, but I'm not sure a flash of my tits would work for her. Of course, I have no idea of my ratio, so the sight of my tits could inspire massive gagging. Or, on the flip side, uncontrolled rage from flabby middle-aged women who did not learn to exercise in their youth. Or disdain from soy-munching surburbanites.)

You could knit me a cape to cover up my flabby non-soy-enhanced ass ( I have no idea what this emoticon is but I love it)

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Leagleaze
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:35 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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barely_legal wrote:
robustpuppy wrote:
Paigow and Barely, settle down now, it's obvious that you're just jealous.

You bitch! I hate you and your robust puppies and lithe firm body!

Did someone say hot, firm body? You know the problem here isn't that women are enraged by the hot, firm, body with the robust puppies. Nor are they jealous of it. Oh no.

The problem is that the women are lesbians and they WANT the hot, firm body with the robust puppies. However, they have learned, as I have over the years, that a straight woman, is well, straight, and unless you get her really drunk, you won't be getting that particular hot, firm body.

It just enrages you. I bet the men can understand.

So before you wear that fuck me dress you might want to remember, you don't just run a risk of men throwing you over the desk. Rampaging democratic lesbians (ah where is Temp Sock when you need him) might darn well do the same thing.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:45 am__ _Post subject: Re: GWNC
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Now that is the kind of nice, going the extra-mile gesture that deserves something nice in return. A drink? A (non-recorded) flash of my tits?

Can I have the drink after you flash your tits? If it's one or the other, I think you know what I choose

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:46 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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Leagleaze wrote:

So before you wear that fuck me dress you might want to remember, you don't just run a risk of men throwing you over the desk. Rampaging democratic lesbians might darn well do the same thing.

Promises, promises!

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Apropos_of_Nothing
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:46 am__ _Post subject: Hey baby, what's your sign?
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Leagleaze wrote:
Did someone say hot, firm body? You know the problem here isn't that women are enraged by the hot, firm, body with the robust puppies. Nor are they jealous of it. Oh no.

Apr...uh, does this mean that lesbians use the "if I told you that you had a hot, firm body, would you hold it against me?" smoooooooth line, too?Back to top
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notcasesensitive
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:48 am__ _Post subject: Re: Don't Hate Me Because I'm Beautiful
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pursejunkie wrote:
While a few women (and men) do act like bitches because they're competitive about looks, has it occurred to you that some of the animosity may simply be personal--they think you think too much of yourself and your bod and find that quality, not your fit bod, offensive?

I admire women who work out consistently and look great, but am annoyed by those who constantly smirk over their superiority for eating nutritionally perfect salads and the disgusting soy-trend-of-the-moment. My guess is these bitter women (and men, when they do it) take as little sensual pleasure in the rest of their lives as they do in their food--definitely a turnoff.

I return from a long weekend to find a good old-fashioned pile on. Woo hoo! Good points by RP, the Paigow and (as quoted) PJ. JFF, welcome to the FB. We don't mind if you wear revealing clothes or have a snarky attitude, but never wear revaling clothes while having a snarky attitude...

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EvenOdds
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:52 am__ _Post subject: Happy St. Patrick's Day
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My mother called last night to say she had uncovered a document from her past: a typewritten lyric sheet from the Ancient Order of the Hibernians in America.

So last night, she sang the old songs and we told really bad Irish jokes.

If only we'd had Rory's great Irish coffee, the night would have been complete.

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EvenOdds
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:54 am__ _Post subject: Re: GWNC
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Thurgreed(Is this what happens to helpful people? I may have to reevaluate my selfishness)Marshall

Please don't. I think that's one of the signs of the apocalypse.Back to top
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Leagleaze
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:57 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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robustpuppy wrote:

Promises, promises!

RP

and

Apropos_of_Nothing wrote:

Apr...uh, does this mean that lesbians use the "if I told you that you had a hot, firm body, would you hold it against me?" smoooooooth line, too?

Well, you know, if your puppies are that robust...

Of course they do AoN. And they are similarly successful. They also ask if I "come here often" (the smart ones do a sort of a stretching out of the word come making it clear what they mean) others ask if we have met before. I also did have someone tell me I had nice pants, she would look good in them, but fortunately, she was joking.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:58 am__ _Post subject: Mawwage
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I could have told you this:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/03/17...eut/index.html

[Researchers: Marriage doesn't make you happy]

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Connect_the_Dots
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 11:58 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck me suit
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JustForFun wrote:
Pretty_Little_Flower wrote:
But let's face it. You are all lawyers who make their friends through the internet.

Not me. I've made nothing but enemies here. I do my best to piss off and offend anyone I can for any reason at all here. It is a great respite from my real life where I am way too fucking nice.

Okay, I think I figured out who this is. (Check your email to confirm.) If it is who I think it is, than I will vouch that you are up there on the prettiness scale, although I have only seen you fully clothed--except in my imagination where you are always completely naked except for the pitchers of beer that you are holding. FWIW, the attorneys in your city tend to be prettier than the attorneys in other cities though. But I am clearly referring to median prettiness because mean prettiness in minnesota is skewed by an outlier who is very pretty, but tends to be a little too prancey about it.
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robustpuppy
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:00 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Mawwage
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Like the Princess Bride reference, TM.

I think similar studies have shown the same result for other life changing events whether positive or negative; e.g. winning the lottery or suffering a debilitating injury. In most cases, people return to the same level of happiness within about a year.

The idea is that people have a set point for happiness, much like they do for weight, and that a single event, no matter how life-altering, rarely changes it. This must explain people like Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox on the one hand, and Ben Affleck on the other.
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TexLex
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:05 pm__ _Post subject: Top 'O the Mornin' to Ya('ll)!
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In court this morning, I saw an astonishing number of (not the height of fashion, shall we say) green suits, silly green ties, etc., which despite the generally non-fashionable look, was pretty jolly and made me smile, especially since the judge was such a beeyotch today.

How many of you wore some green today?

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Leagleaze
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:07 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Top 'O the Mornin' to Ya('ll)!
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TexLex wrote:

How many of you wore some green today?

-T(black suit with peridot pendant and earrings today, for the record)L

Jeans and a sweater actually. No green, but I am pretty far from being Irish.Back to top
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TexLex
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:09 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Mawwage
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robustpuppy wrote:
Princess Bride!

"Rodents of unusual size?

I don't believe they exist."

-T(Still a favorite.)L Back to top
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EvenOdds
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:10 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Top 'O the Mornin' to Ya('ll)!
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Leagleaze wrote:
TexLex wrote:

How many of you wore some green today?

-T(black suit with peridot pendant and earrings today, for the record)L

Jeans and a sweater actually. No green, but I am pretty far from being Irish.

No green, but I always wear my claddagh.

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:10 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Top 'O the Mornin' to Ya('ll)!
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TexLex wrote:

How many of you wore some green today?

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TexLex
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:14 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Top 'O the Mornin' to Ya('ll)!
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Leagleaze wrote:
TexLex wrote:
How many of you wore some green today?

-T(black suit with peridot pendant and earrings today, for the record)L

Jeans and a sweater actually. No green, but I am pretty far from being Irish.

Don't be silly - everyone's Irish today. Well, possibly except me, but much to my parents' dismay I married one, so that counts, right?

Watch out, someone might pinch you.....or was that what you were going for?

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Leagleaze
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:15 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Top 'O the Mornin' to Ya('ll)!
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TexLex wrote:

Don't be silly - everyone's Irish today. Well, possibly except me, but much to my parents' dismay I married one, so that counts, right?

Watch out, someone might pinch you.....or was that what you were going for?

-T(in way too good of a mood for a Monday)L

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:20 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Mawwage
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robustpuppy wrote:
Princess Bride!

Humperdink: Just say, "Man and Wife!"

Officiant: Man and wife.

Buttercup: He didn't come.

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:29 pm__ _Post subject: Princess Bride
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Wouldn't this be your fave line?

"There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. 'Twould be a pity to damage yours."Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:33 pm__ _Post subject: What the fuck?
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"Bring your daughters to work" day is now "Bring your daughters and sons to work" day? I've been told that NOW has changed this nationally.

Why?

Have parents actually been complaining to such an extent that NOW felt pressure to change it? If so, why can't people understand that just because someone else is getting something doesn't mean that that something is being taken away from them. Especially when they already have it in spades (in other ways).

Or is it because NOW wanted to be consistent because of the Augusta issue? If so, then I've lost a lot of respect for them. The whole point of Take your daughters to work day was to expose little girls to jobs that they should naturally feel like they are capable of performing. It was meant to remedy societal pressures on girls to not pursue careers. What is the point of it if now little boys can do it to?

Do little boys tend to be more aggressive than little girls? If so, will this affect the dynamic of whatever little projects they work on that day?

Can someone tell me why this was changed?

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Leagleaze
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:42 pm__ _Post subject: Kids to work
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
"Bring your daughters to work" day is now "Bring your daughters and sons to work" day? I've been told that NOW has changed this nationally.

We always had "bring your children to work day." People bring boys and girls. The boys tend to run around more I have noticed, the girls tend to sit down and work on things.

I don't know what NOW's motivation was, but it could well simply have been an effort to reflect how most companies are actually implementing it. Or it could have been a very PC thing. You never know.Back to top
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Gattigap
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:45 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Princess Bride
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robustpuppy wrote:
Wouldn't this be your fave line?

"There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. 'Twould be a pity to damage yours."

Clever. Perhaps PLF's favorite line would be:

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Gatti(inconceivable!)gap

evenodds · 04-01-2003, 12:58 AM

greatwhitenorthchick
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:45 pm__ _Post subject: Re: What the fuck?
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
"Bring your daughters to work" day is now "Bring your daughters and sons to work" day? I've been told that NOW has changed this nationally.

Why?

Have parents actually been complaining to such an extent that NOW felt pressure to change it? If so, why can't people understand that just because someone else is getting something doesn't mean that that something is being taken away from them. Especially when they already have it in spades (in other ways).

Or is it because NOW wanted to be consistent because of the Augusta issue? If so, then I've lost a lot of respect for them. The whole point of Take your daughters to work day was to expose little girls to jobs that they should naturally feel like they are capable of performing. It was meant to remedy societal pressures on girls to not pursue careers. What is the point of it if now little boys can do it to?

Do little boys tend to be more aggressive than little girls? If so, will this affect the dynamic of whatever little projects they work on that day?

Can someone tell me why this was changed?

TM

The way it was explained to me was that it is as good for little boys to see and be with Mommy at work in her high-powered job as it is for little girls to to be with Mommy (and Daddy) at work in their jobs. But I just sort of overheard this conversation and I am not really all that familiar with what this day is all about anyway, so perhaps I missed something.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 12:52 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Princess Bride
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robustpuppy wrote:
Wouldn't this be your fave line?

"There's a shortage of perfect breasts in this world. 'Twould be a pity to damage yours."

Only if she then whipped those puppies out.

But there are so many great lines in that movie.

Inigo: Who are you?
Wesley: No one of consequence.
Inigo: I must know.
Wesley: Get used to disappointment.

Vezzini: I switched glasses when your back was turned! Haha.. you fool! You fell victim to one of the clathic blunderth. The mothe famouth ith: Never get involved in a land war in Aytha. Only thlightly leth well known ith thith: Never go in againth a Thithilian when death ith on the line! Ahhh ha ha ha ha. Ahhh ha ha h...

Inigo: Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father.
Prepare to die.
Count Rugen: Stop saying that!

Vezzini: Have you ever heard of Plato? Arithotle? Socrateeth?
Wesley: Yes
Vezzini:Moronth.

Vezzini: He didn't fall? Inconceivable!
Inigo: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you
think it means.

Wesley: Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.

My favorite for some reason:
Inigo: You are wohnderful!
Wesley: Thank you. I've worked hard to become so.

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pursejunkie
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:04 pm__ _Post subject: Bring Your Daughters to Work Before you Get Laid Off Day
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NOW started BYDTWD to show girls that they could be empowered and had lots of options for their future. They changed it because outraged parents of boys complained it was sexist to do this just for girls.

Of course, the whole concept is a flawed conceit of the middle-class intelligentsia. Most women who bring their daughters to work will show them that, statistically, females generally work in dead-end, low-paying jobs with little opportunity for advancement (like, say, mine). Most parents who bring their boys to work will merely validate the idea that, statistically, men generally get treated better because of their gender.

Now I'm totally f@#$%ng annoyed and depressed that I'm an such employment law/stat ween. So, is anyone else overwhelmed at the prospect of switching their handbag wardrobe from winter to spring?Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:46 pm__ _Post subject: Re: What the fuck?
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
The way it was explained to me was that it is as good for little boys to see and be with Mommy at work in her high-powered job as it is for little girls to to be with Mommy (and Daddy) at work in their jobs.

From what I've seen, the people who tend to take advantage of the program most often are those whose jobs aren't all that high-powered. Support staff kids outnumber attorney kids significantly here. Whatever. I guess there are arguments for having it either way.

I just thought that it was a nice thing for little girls to be able to do without having little boys involved. And it made sense since little girls aren't as encouraged to pursue careers as little boys are.

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bold_n_brazen
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:06 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Bring Your Daughters to Work Before you Get Laid Off Day
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pursejunkie wrote:
So, is anyone else overwhelmed at the prospect of switching their handbag wardrobe from winter to spring?

Yes, I for one am.

I just bought a lovely Kate Spade diaper bag (toggle collection from Holiday 2002) for toting the diapers and other flotsam and jetsam of the soon-to-arrive Brazenette.

I am lusting after the Louis Vuitton Houston Handbag in Lavendar but at $1,030 its hard to justify and I'm not even sure I'll carry a handbag in addition to the diaper bag.

See it here: http://www.eluxury.com/browse/produc...SectionID=6000

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Add A Mighty Wind to the list of movies I want to see this year. I saw a preview for it before I saw A Quiet American yesterday, and I can't wait. It looks like Christopher Guest was able to get everyone from his prior two movies (Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show) to be in this one, and it looks to be about as funny.Back to top
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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
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Replaced_Texan wrote:
Add A Mighty Wind to the list of movies I want to see this year. I saw a preview for it before I saw A Quiet American yesterday, and I can't wait. It looks like Christopher Guest was able to get everyone from his prior two movies (Waiting for Guffman and Best in Show) to be in this one, and it looks to be about as funny.

See the trailer here: http://amightywindonline.warnerbros.com/.

Looks great.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:28 pm__ _Post subject: books
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... I saw A Quiet American yesterday

How was A Quiet American?

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:32 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Bring Your Daughters to Work Before you Get Laid Off Day
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I am lusting after the Louis Vuitton Houston Handbag in Lavendar but at $1,030 its hard to justify and I'm not even sure I'll carry a handbag in addition to the diaper bag.

See it here: http://www.eluxury.com/browse/produc...SectionID=6000

Bn'B

I am so grateful that LV is finally branching out beyond the colors of baby vomit for its handbags!

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 2:51 pm__ _Post subject: Tell me why I don't like Mondays
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Goodness gracious. I don't get all this squabbling over women undressing others and guessing at their bodies and being jealous (and caveat - I skimmed all the sniping). If people spend any time in a gym, you know that some women can walk in looking fabulous and fit, but they take off their clothes and have cellulite from hell or quite the little poochie stomach that they've been able to hide. On the other hand, some women don't look as good in their clothes (ill-fitting) but look fabulous naked. Just be happy with how you look and move on, fer chissakes. I don't care to invoke jealousy in any other female, just want to look good for whomever I may be dating at the time, and want to feel fit and healthy.

And paigow, not to worry - I was never in a sorority, and mom debuted only once. Of course, there were numeous balls and parties leading up to her debut, hence her need for more than one gown. I tried to stay out of that world as much as I could, but I love her old dresses. The bridesmaid dresses from the 60s are the best, though - went as Mother Nature one year in this mint green taffeta/semi-hippy twirly dress that PLF probably would have loved.

One of my favorite Princess Bride scenes:

Miracle Max: Sonny, true love is the great thing in the world - except for a nice MLT, mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich where the mutton is lean and the tomato is ripe ... they're so perky, I love that!

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:00 pm__ _Post subject: Re: books
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Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:
Anyone with recommendations, pro or con, about Cryptonomicon? A friend whose judgment I trust says I should read it.

I liked it immmensely and would recommend it.

Last time I mentioned this book, Less pointed out that Stephenson needs an editor. I suppose that's true -- he can be verbose -- but I still found it to be an enjoyable read.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:11 pm__ _Post subject: Survivor -- Wisconsin Style
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Now, I don't know how funny this is, having visited Wisconsin only a few times, but the following came around the office in an email -- I suppose you could substitute the state of your choice to make it appropriately uproarious (Arizona springs to mind for some reason...):

Survivor Wisconsin style

Due to the popularity of the Survivor shows, Wisconsin is planning to do its own, entitled "Survivor-Wisconsin Style." The contestants will start in Milwaukee, travel up to Sheboygan and on to Manitiwoc and Green Bay. Then they will head over to Wausau and up to Rhinelander and Minoqua. From there they will proceed up to Ashland and Superior. Then back down through Rice Lake, Eau Claire and all the way down to Madison and back over to Milwaukee.

Each will be driving a pink Volvo with Illinois license plates and a large bumper sticker that reads: "I'm gay. I'm a vegetarian. Bratwurst clogs your arteries. The Green Bay Packers suck. Go Bears! Cheese is high in cholesterol. Hillary in 2004. Deer Hunting is murder and I'm here to confiscate your guns!"

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:19 pm__ _Post subject: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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I recently had a discussion with a friend about the actual skill needed to act (in movies and tv). I think there are very few skilled, successful actors and what ends up happening is that the viewing public is essentially buying someone's personality. We like Julia Roberts, so we want to see a Julia Roberts type character in a bunch of movies. It's like packaging and selling the popular kids in high school.

I understand that there is type-casting and studios tend to hire actors for roles they've had success with in the past, but either way, I think my argument still stands.

Anyway, name five actors/actresses who take significantly different roles from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jeffrey Wright
4. John Malkovich
5. Daniel Day Lewis

Or, better yet, who are the top five most guilty of playing the same damn role or playing up their personality quirks in each of their roles:

1. (hands down) Samuel L. Jackson
2. Julia Roberts
3. Meg Ryan
4. Michael Douglas
5. Sean Connery

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:35 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
[A]ctors/actresses who take significantly different roles from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.
Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jeffrey Wright
4. John Malkovich
5. Daniel Day Lewis

To those I'll add:

1. Adrien Brody
2. Russell Crowe
3. Nicole Kidman
4. Kevin Spacey
5. Brad Pitt (I hate to include this one, but I think he fits: compare Se7en with 12 Monkeys with True Romance; not sure where Fight Club and 7 Years in Tibet fit in...)

ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

Or, better yet, who are the top five most guilty of playing the same damn role or playing up their personality quirks in each of their roles:

1. (hands down) Samuel L. Jackson
2. Julia Roberts
3. Meg Ryan
4. Michael Douglas
5. Sean Connery
TM
Also:
1. Al Pacino (my pick for #1)
2. Robert Deniro
3. Joe Pesci
4. Dustin Hoffman
5. Richard Dreyfus
6. Barbara Streisand
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:38 pm__ _Post subject: Poll
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Same Damn Role

1) Molly Ringwald
2) Arnold Schwarzennegger
3) Jennifer Lopez
4) Bruce Willis (can't !@#$% stand him)
5) Jamie Lee Curtis

Tries Different Stuff

1) Holly Hunter
2) Cate Blanchett
3) Eric Stoltz
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:38 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Survivor -- Wisconsin Style
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dtb wrote:
Then they will head over to Wausau and up to Rhinelander and Minoqua.

I did a mountain bike race in Rhinelander once. I am not gay, unless I am. (Who can really know for sure with the whole latency possibility.) I did wear form-fitting lycra shorts, though. I am not a vegertarian, but I like soy products. I encountered no difficulties. Except that the race was kind of hard. And very muddy. But I don't think these difficulties were caused, or even exacerbated, by my possibly gay, lycra shorts-wearing, soy milk-drinking lifestyle.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:39 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Tell me why I don't like Mondays
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One of my favorite Princess Bride scenes:

Miracle Max: Sonny, true love is the great thing in the world - except for a nice MLT, mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich where the mutton is lean and the tomato is ripe ... they're so perky, I love that!

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:54 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

Anyway, name five actors/actresses who take significantly different roles from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jeffrey Wright
4. John Malkovich
5. Daniel Day Lewis

Not including yours, which I'd generally agree with, there are a few that I can think of off the top of my head.

1. Phillip Seymour Hoffman
2. Nicole Kidman
3. Jodie Foster (especially younger)
4. Toni Collette
5. Sean Penn
6. Frances McDormond

TM wrote:

Or, better yet, who are the top five most guilty of playing the same damn role or playing up their personality quirks in each of their roles:

1. (hands down) Samuel L. Jackson
2. Julia Roberts
3. Meg Ryan
4. Michael Douglas
5. Sean Connery

TM

This one's harder because there are so many.

1. Ahnold
2. Steve Martin
3. John Wayne
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:56 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

Anyway, name five actors/actresses who take significantly different roles from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
Can't disagree with that one.
Others:
2. Robert De Niro - just when you think he's stuck as a mobster / cop (Untouchables, Goodfellas, Ronin, Analyze This & That, even Meet the Parents) he pops out Awakenings. And Mad Dog and Glory is a very interesting performance as well
3. Geoffrey Rush
4. Colin Firth
5. Ethan Embry (give him time, but see Can't Hardly Wait vs Dragnet)

Typecast:
1. Tom Hanks (really two typecasts -earnest and serious or earnest and goofy)
2. Hugh Grant (Which movie am I describing: Hugh Grant dashes around London with a group of witty British friends and a token American, and generally being a prat, but a somehow endearing one. That's right, it's all of them.)
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:57 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jeffrey Wright
4. John Malkovich
5. Daniel Day Lewis

Or, better yet, who are the top five most guilty of playing the same damn role or playing up their personality quirks in each of their roles:

1. (hands down) Samuel L. Jackson
2. Julia Roberts
3. Meg Ryan
4. Michael Douglas
5. Sean Connery

TM

Right there with 'ya on the Edward Norton thing. Ditto on Meg Ryan and Michael Douglas (to be fair, Meg Ryan has tried the non-cutesy thing, but it just didn't work (I'm thinking of the movie with Russell Crowe where her husband gets kidnapped and the movie with Matthew Broderick where her boyfriend and his girlfriend are having an affair or something, and Meg and Matt stalk them -- I didn't actually see this movie, so some of the details may not be exactly right.)

I don't know who Jeffrey Wright is, but Johnny Depp is a good one too.

Now for my list, don't laugh, but I think Brad Pitt is a darned good actor -- and don't laugh at Marky Mark either -- he's not bad!

Here's my 5 good ones (I don't know any of these people personally, so I have no idea if they're "playing themselves" or not):

1. Brad Pitt
2. Nicole Kidman
3. Philip Seymour Hoffman
4. Meryl Streep (cliche, I know, and she's made some duds, but she's an amazing talent)
5. Marky Mark (see, e.g. Boogie Nights, cf. Perfect Storm) He was great in Three Kings too.
6. Anthony Hopkins (I had to have 6, because I wasted one on Marky Mark -- but MM is so unexpected, I had to put him in for the controversy factor. These polls are too difficult!!)

Now, I could probably come up with 50 who play the same character over and over again (or are probably playing something not too far off their own personalities), but these are some pretty egregious ones:

1. Hugh Grant (although went against "type" in About A Boy -- which may be what got him noticed...)
2. Tom Cruise
3. Al Pacino (he's one of the worst, actually -- here's Al Pacino as the Devil, here's Al Pacino as an angry cop...)
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:09 pm__ _Post subject: New Hip-Hop Drama
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New UPN Series Billed As a Hip-Hop Drama

LOS ANGELES - "Platinum," a UPN series billed as the first network hip-hop drama, is poised to make its debut next month.

Hip-hop already is embraced by movies, fashion and any number of other industries — try counting the commercials with a rap beat — eager to reach young consumers entranced by the music or the lifestyle.

But risk-averse networks typically drag their heels at innovation. They certainly try to avoid the sharp edges of cutting-edge culture, and hip-hop has been dogged by its share of social controversy and violence.

In the brave new TV world of antiheroes on cable's "The Sopranos (news - Y! TV)" and "The Shield" and broadcast's "Kingpin," however, that issue would seem to be a nonstarter.

There's another reason for the lag, suggests "Platinum" co-creator John Ridley: Any genuine hip-hop series has to feature black characters, and networks have shied away from black-oriented dramas, which they see as a tough sell to general audiences.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:13 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jeffrey Wright
4. John Malkovich
5. Daniel Day Lewis

I was going to respond just to add Jeffrey Wright. From MLK in Boycott to Peoples in Shaft, to Topdog/Underdog, the man is amazing.

In the same vein, I would add Courtney B. Vance, Don Cheadle, and Mekhi Pfifer (see Lesson Before Dying).

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:16 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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baltassoc wrote:
ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

Anyway, name five actors/actresses who take significantly different roles from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
Can't disagree with that one.
Others:
2. Robert De Niro - just when you think he's stuck as a mobster / cop (Untouchables, Goodfellas, Ronin, Analyze This & That, even Meet the Parents) he pops out Awakenings. And Mad Dog and Glory is a very interesting performance as well
3. Geoffrey Rush
4. Colin Firth
5. Ethan Embry (give him time, but see Can't Hardly Wait vs Dragnet)

Typecast:
1. Tom Hanks (really two typecasts -earnest and serious or earnest and goofy)
2. Hugh Grant (Which movie am I describing: Hugh Grant dashes around London with a group of witty British friends and a token American, and generally being a prat, but a somehow endearing one. That's right, it's all of them.)
3. Al Pacino
4. Harrison Ford
5. Julia Stiles

Top 5: Why does this seem to be easier with actors than actresses?

1. Paul Newman - still brilliant and an amazing body of work.
2. Edward Norton
3. Kevin Spacey
4. John Turturro
5. Kevin Bacon (Believe it or not, but just look at all the different freaking movies this guy has been in.)

Typecast (or just plain suck)
1. One word: Stallone (Stallone is the disease - acting lessons are the cure.)
2. Adam Sandler
3. Tom Cruise - he may be the worst "real" actor who still has a viable career.
4. Tom Hanks (for reasons mentioned above) - Good actor - generally typecast.
5. Julia Roberts
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:18 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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dtb wrote:
Now for my list, don't laugh, but I think Brad Pitt is a darned good actor -- and don't laugh at Marky Mark either -- he's not bad!

I agree with both of those, though Pitt has shown more range than Markey Mark.
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dtb wrote:
don't laugh at Marky Mark either -- he's not bad!

5. Marky Mark (see, e.g. Boogie Nights, cf. Perfect Storm) He was great in Three Kings too.

Good God, woman. Have you lost your mind? He is Horrible (that's right, with a capital "H"). He plays the same overly sensitive guy in every fucking movie. He makes me cringe when he has to show an emotion other than the one he knows by heart. Did you actually see Planet of the Apes? He had to give a speech to the people to defend themselves in the final battle for their lives. It was exactly the same as his love scenes.

Can you hear that? It's me laughing at Marky Mark

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:18 pm__ _Post subject: actors
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I agree with a lot already posted so I won't repeat (Or hopefully I won't)

For plays the same role I'll pick
Keanu Reeves
Val Kilmer
Angelina Jolie - she does it well but they are always disturbed individuals on the edge or over the edge of losing it.
Tobey McGuire, again does it well, but it's the same disenfranchized, sensitive, young man thing.

For plays different roles
Glenn Close
George Clooney (as much as it distresses me to admit it)

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:23 pm__ _Post subject: Re: actors
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George Clooney (as much as it distresses me to admit it)

I concurr, though only recently (e.g. Solaris, Ocens Eleven). Some of his early holywood stuff sucked (save for Dusk till Dawn: a shitty movie in which Clooney played an interesting villian).

BTW, did you hear Steven Soderbergh is writing Ocean's Twelve? (seriously, he is... http://us.imdb.com/Title?0349903)
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 4:28 pm__ _Post subject: Re: actors
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Some of his early holywood stuff sucked (save for Dusk till Dawn: a shitty movie in which Clooney played an interesting villian).

I loved Dusk til Dawn. Prior to Spy Kids, I would have claimed to enjoy Rodriguez's movies. Now, not so much.

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Replaced_Texan wrote:
This one's harder because there are so many.

1. Ahnold
2. Steve Martin
3. John Wayne
4. Marylin Monroe
5. Bruce Willis

Have to disagree slightly with Steve Martin. Which Mamet movie was he in? I forget, but he did a great job in a role very different from his usual "Father of the Bride" persona.

As for actors who can stretch, Willem Defoe is pretty versatile. And Liam Neeson. Denzel Washington proved he could stretch in "Training Day." (I thought he was also good as a Not Completely Nice guy in "He Got Game.") Kate Winslet and Cate Blanchett also can convincingly inhabit very different characters from flick to flick.

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3. Tom Cruise - he may be the worst "real" actor who still has a viable career.

I actually disagree with this one. Maybe he chose to do too many Top Gun type movies, but I've never thought he was bad in a movie. He may be guilty of selling us his personality, but I don't think his personality gets in the way of the characters he chooses to play when he does branch out a bit. I didn't like Born on the Fourth of July that much, but it really was a different role. You can even argue that he did some acting in Vanilla Sky.

He's not going to make me forget that he's Tom Cruise, but I think he does well in the roles he chooses. I also think Brad Pitt is one of the most underrated actors. But I just like his style. He was great in Snatch (one of my top ten favorite movies -- if you judge them by how many times I can watch them over and over again).

Hmmmm, sounds like another poll.

Which movies can you turn on, but can't turn off.

Me:

1. Godfather I or II (can NEVER turn it off -- "Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
2. A Few Good Men ("Who's going to do it? You? YOU Lieutenant WeinBERG?" -- Oh shit. That's cold every time)
3. King of New York ("I never killed anyone that didn't...deserve it")
4. Say Anything ("Joe lies...Joe LIES...when he cries. When he cries.")
5. Caddyshack ("How 'bout a Fresca?")
6. Snatch ("Now why would I want to buy a caravan with no fuckin' wheels"?)
7. Jerry McGuire ("I'm CLOAKED in failure.")
8. Trading Places ("Like, oh sure. Heee went to Hahvard.")
9. Hunt for Red October/Crimson Tide (Submarine movies -- I'm counting them as one)
10. Midnight Run ("I only have two words for you: Shut the fuck up.")

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For good actors, I left out Christian Bale. He's a wonderful actor.

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Have to disagree slightly with Steve Martin. Which Mamet movie was he in? I forget, but he did a great job in a role very different from his usual "Father of the Bride" persona.

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Not_Bob wrote:
Have to disagree slightly with Steve Martin. Which Mamet movie was he in? I forget, but he did a great job in a role very different from his usual "Father of the Bride" persona.

Spanish Prisoner. Not to be rude, but I thought he sucked in it. He just looked like he was trying not to be funny the whole time. It was like he was trying not to fuck up his lines.

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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
spookyfish wrote:
3. Tom Cruise - he may be the worst "real" actor who still has a viable career.

I actually disagree with this one. Maybe he chose to do too many Top Gun type movies, but I've never thought he was bad in a movi

He's not going to make me forget that he's Tom Cruise, but I think he does well in the roles he chooses.ThurgreedMarshall

Um, ever had to suffer through Cocktail?

and, maybe I'm off, but I HATED Jerry Maguire.

spooky('nuff said)fish

Oh, and speaking of a great actor who has played tons of different characters, how can I forget the great Robert Duvall? (Even though he appeared in another "Top-Gun"-type movie with Tom Cruise, though the name escapes me.)
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

1. Godfather I or II (can NEVER turn it off -- "Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
2. A Few Good Men ("Who's going to do it? You? YOU Lieutenant WeinBERG?" -- Oh shit. That's cold every time)
3. King of New York ("I never killed anyone that didn't...deserve it")
4. Say Anything ("Joe lies...Joe LIES...when he cries. When he cries.")
5. Caddyshack ("How 'bout a Fresca?")
6. Snatch ("Now why would I want to buy a caravan with no fuckin' wheels"?)
7. Jerry McGuire ("I'm CLOAKED in failure.")
8. Trading Places ("Like, oh sure. Heee went to Hahvard.")
9. Hunt for Red October/Crimson Tide (Submarine movies -- I'm counting them as one)
10. Midnight Run ("I only have two words for you: Shut the fuck up.")

ThurgreedMarshall

I love all of those, especially Snatch and Say Anything.

I also cannot turn off:

1. Lock, Stock
2. Fight Club
3. Real Genius
4. My Favorite Year
5. Dogma
6. North by Northwest
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Has anyone mentioned Nicolas Cage? He's pretty versatile. (although that doesn't make me like him all the time (see, e.g. any action-hero movie he's been in) - although I liked Raising Arizona and Adaptation - and Fast Times at Ridgemont High).

Someone else who is versatile (although generally ranges from sucky to very very bad, does try a lot of different things) is John Travolta. Thinking about Vincent Vega always makes me giggle.

And Cameron Diaz tries to do different things - compare her sucky roles in Very Bad Things and My best friend's Wedding to her in Being John Malkovich. Not that it makes me like her much.Back to top
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EvenOdds wrote:
I also cannot turn off:

7. Braveheart

I just watched that for the first time this weekend. Loved it, although the SO told me it was as good as the Last of the Mohicans, and I cannot agree. Daniel Day Lewis. Mmmmmm.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:08 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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EvenOdds wrote:
ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

1. Godfather I or II (can NEVER turn it off -- "Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
2. A Few Good Men ("Who's going to do it? You? YOU Lieutenant WeinBERG?" -- Oh shit. That's cold every time)
3. King of New York ("I never killed anyone that didn't...deserve it")
4. Say Anything ("Joe lies...Joe LIES...when he cries. When he cries.")
5. Caddyshack ("How 'bout a Fresca?")
6. Snatch ("Now why would I want to buy a caravan with no fuckin' wheels"?)
7. Jerry McGuire ("I'm CLOAKED in failure.")
8. Trading Places ("Like, oh sure. Heee went to Hahvard.")
9. Hunt for Red October/Crimson Tide (Submarine movies -- I'm counting them as one)
10. Midnight Run ("I only have two words for you: Shut the fuck up.")

ThurgreedMarshall

I love all of those, especially Snatch and Say Anything.

I also cannot turn off:

1. Lock, Stock
2. Fight Club
3. Real Genius
4. My Favorite Year
5. Dogma
6. North by Northwest
7. Braveheart

Loved all of those, but I have to add the following:

1. Blade Runner
2. Alien
3. A Clockwork Orange (natch)
4. The Empire Strikes Back
5. Pulp Fiction
6. The Bridge on the River Kwai
7. The Matrix
8. Women on the Verge of A Nervous Breakdown
9. Se7en
10. Psycho (the original version, though the Vince-Vaughn-as-Norman-Bates version wasn't half-bad)
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:12 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Which movies can you turn on, but can't turn off.

For some reason, I can't turn off "Interview with the Vampire," even though my hatred for that film is deep and abiding. I've previously said it contains the worst collective performance of any film in English. And yet I watch. Maybe it's the art direction. Yeah, that's it.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:14 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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EvenOdds wrote:
ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

Blah Blah Blah Movies TM like

4. Say Anything ("Joe lies...Joe LIES...when he cries. When he cries.")

Blah Blah Blah More Movies TM likes.

ThurgreedMarshall

Blah Blah EO agrees especially Say Anything.

Blah Blah Blah...more movies EO likes including

2. Fight Club

Now my turn.

Blah Blah Blah Movies I like...

1. I concur on Say Anything ("I gave her my heart. She gave me a pen.")
2. I also concur on Fight Club. ("The first rule of fight club is you must never talk about fight club.")
3. About Last Night ("Was she a Pro?" "At this point, we don't know.")
4. Stripes ("That's the fact, Jack.")
5. Princess Bride. ("My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father.")
6. Grease ("Why this car is automatic...its hydromatic....this car is Greased Lightening")
7. My Life's in Turnaround (Everyone should see this movie...seriously.)
8. Sleep with Me (just for the Quentin Tarantino "Top Gun is the best homosexual love story ever made" monologue/cameo)
9. St. Elmo's Fire (because everyone I know was one of these characters at one time in their lives...for a very long time I was Jules)
10. Pulp Fiction/Reservoir Dogs/Natural Born Killers/U-Turn (movies too fucked up to really explain why I liked them, but which manage to do an outstanding job being visually excellent while telling very good albeit fucked up stories).

That is all.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:21 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:

Hmmmm, sounds like another poll.

Which movies can you turn on, but can't turn off.

ThurgreedMarshall

Hmm

1. Notorious
2. Chinatown
3. Godfather II (for some reason 1 does not really do it for me as much)
4. My Fair Lady
5. Touch of Evil
6. Trading Places
7. The Dirty Dozen
8. Wait until Dark
9. Breakfast at Tiffany's
10. Rear Window

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:29 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
I recently had a discussion with a friend about the actual skill needed to act (in movies and tv). I think there are very few skilled, successful actors and what ends up happening is that the viewing public is essentially buying someone's personality. We like Julia Roberts, so we want to see a Julia Roberts type character in a bunch of movies. It's like packaging and selling the popular kids in high school.

I understand that there is type-casting and studios tend to hire actors for roles they've had success with in the past, but either way, I think my argument still stands.

Anyway, name five actors/actresses who take significantly different roles from either (1) other roles they've had or (2) their out-of-character personalities.

Here are my five:

1. Ed Norton
2. Johnny Depp
3. Jeffrey Wright
4. John Malkovich
5. Daniel Day Lewis

Or, better yet, who are the top five most guilty of playing the same damn role or playing up their personality quirks in each of their roles:

1. (hands down) Samuel L. Jackson
2. Julia Roberts
3. Meg Ryan
4. Michael Douglas
5. Sean Connery

TM

SOmeone on Inside the Actors Studio, and I think it was Michael Caine (yawn) said taht the difference bt an actor and a movie star is that an actor says, how do I make myself turn into this character, and the movie star says how do I turn this character into me?Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:37 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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bold_n_brazen wrote:

8. Sleep with Me (just for the Quentin Tarantino "Top Gun is the best homosexual love story ever made" monologue/cameo)

See, this spawns another poll "Movies that are godawful but are partially salvaged by that one scene." I LOVE the Tarantino monologue in this movie, but I would never force anyone to sit through the rest of it just for the scene.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:39 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
spookyfish wrote:
3. Tom Cruise - he may be the worst "real" actor who still has a viable career.

I actually disagree with this one. Maybe he chose to do too many Top Gun type movies, but I've never thought he was bad in a movie. He may be guilty of selling us his personality, but I don't think his personality gets in the way of the characters he chooses to play when he does branch out a bit. I didn't like Born on the Fourth of July that much, but it really was a different role. You can even argue that he did some acting in Vanilla Sky.

He's not going to make me forget that he's Tom Cruise, but I think he does well in the roles he chooses. I also think Brad Pitt is one of the most underrated actors. But I just like his style. He was great in Snatch (one of my top ten favorite movies -- if you judge them by how many times I can watch them over and over again).

Hmmmm, sounds like another poll.

Which movies can you turn on, but can't turn off.

Me:

1. Godfather I or II (can NEVER turn it off -- "Leave the gun, take the cannolis")
2. A Few Good Men ("Who's going to do it? You? YOU Lieutenant WeinBERG?" -- Oh shit. That's cold every time)
3. King of New York ("I never killed anyone that didn't...deserve it")
4. Say Anything ("Joe lies...Joe LIES...when he cries. When he cries.")
5. Caddyshack ("How 'bout a Fresca?")
6. Snatch ("Now why would I want to buy a caravan with no fuckin' wheels"?)
7. Jerry McGuire ("I'm CLOAKED in failure.")
8. Trading Places ("Like, oh sure. Heee went to Hahvard.")
9. Hunt for Red October/Crimson Tide (Submarine movies -- I'm counting them as one)
10. Midnight Run ("I only have two words for you: Shut the fuck up.")

ThurgreedMarshall

Goodfellas
Walking and Talking
Meet the Parents
trading places
Best in show
spinal tap
office space
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:53 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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bold_n_brazen wrote:
7. My Life's in Turnaround (Everyone should see this movie...seriously.)

I don't think I am familiar with this movie. Why is it a must-see?Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:57 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Hmmmm, sounds like another poll.

Which movies can you turn on, but can't turn off.

Ok, this is not an inclusive list.

Star Wars (especially the first three, but generally all five)
Terminator
Aliens
Gladiator
The Usual Suspects
LA Confidential
10 Things I Hate About You
The Princess Bride
Ronin (espeically if one of the chases is going on when I turn on the movie)
Most of Season 2 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (not movies, but in the DVD shelf and on FX)
Most of Seasons 1-5 of The X Files (ditto on the FX part, why the hell does Chris Carter charge so much for each season)
Pretty much any episode of the Simpsons (ditto on wherever they are on syndication)
Victor / Victoria (The Cockroach scene is one of all time favorites ever)
Clue ("This is WAR, Peacock! Casualties are inevitable. You can't make an omlette without breaking eggs. Any cook will tell you that." "But look what happened to the cook!")
Say Anything
Grosse Point Blank
Real Genius ("Can you hammer a six-inch spike through a board with your penis?")
LOTR: FotR
The Matrix
Snatch and LSTSBBack to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:08 pm__ _Post subject: Re: POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL
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dtb wrote:
5. Marky Mark (see, e.g. Boogie Nights, cf. Perfect Storm) He was great in Three Kings too.

I agree. See also The Truth About Charlie, in which he did a great job.
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:08 pm__ _Post subject:
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> Which movies can't you turn off?

Do all of you have satellite TV? WTF? You're all listing some great movies, but I wish that the cable stations I get showed more of them.

Thinking only of movies I've clicked into recently and have been unable to leave:

Chinatown
L.A. Confidential
Conspiracy Theory (for the scene in Mel's apartment)Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:11 pm__ _Post subject: Movies
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In no particular order:

--The Usual Suspects
--Midnight Express ("I'm from the factory -- we make the machines!")
--Kiss of the Spider Woman ("This dream is short, but this dream is happy . . .")
--Apartment Zero
--Angel Heart
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:18 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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EvenOdds wrote:
bold_n_brazen wrote:
7. My Life's in Turnaround (Everyone should see this movie...seriously.)

I don't think I am familiar with this movie. Why is it a must-see?

Here's the set-up in a nutshell:
Eric Schaeffer, a New York City cab driver, and Donal Lardner Ward, his bartender friend and roommate, spontaneously decide to make a film.

They don't have a script -- or even the idea for a script ("I think this whole idea thing is overrated" says Eric about halfway throught the film.) They also know nothing about production, direction, or camerawork. They are nearly broke.

They wind up making a movie about themselves trying to make this movie. Martha Plimpton has an amazing raunchy cameo. Phoebe Cates also has a cute cameo.

Great scenes include Martha Plimton talking about taking a shit, Eric dancing around his apartment sing-songing "I have a girlfriend now" after receiveing a hang-up on his answering machine, and the line "We're not going to meet anyone. We're just going to die weird and dumb."

Rent this movie. If you hate it, send me a message and I'll refund your $2.99. Be sure to watch the outtakes under the final credits.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:26 pm__ _Post subject: Emoticon Hell
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I can't find the link someone posted recently with the supposedly vast array of emoticons.

Would someone be so kind as to post it again so that my life can be complete?Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:27 pm__ _Post subject: Which movies can't you turn off?
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Let's see....

I like lots of serious movies, but I don't tend to watch them more than once, maybe twice. The ones that I can bear to watch again are generally um, not serious. These are the ones I truly cannot turn off.

Better Off Dead (Frawnch Fries, Frawnch Dressing...)
Princess Bride
Office Space
Real Genius
Wizard of Oz (remember when it would come on only once a year and it was a big event?)
Christmas Vacation
Ferris Bueller

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:36 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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bold_n_brazen wrote:
EvenOdds wrote:
bold_n_brazen wrote:
7. My Life's in Turnaround (Everyone should see this movie...seriously.)

I don't think I am familiar with this movie. Why is it a must-see?

Here's the set-up in a nutshell:
Eric Schaeffer, a New York City cab driver, and Donal Lardner Ward, his bartender friend and roommate, spontaneously decide to make a film.

They don't have a script -- or even the idea for a script ("I think this whole idea thing is overrated" says Eric about halfway throught the film.) They also know nothing about production, direction, or camerawork. They are nearly broke.

They wind up making a movie about themselves trying to make this movie. Martha Plimpton has an amazing raunchy cameo. Phoebe Cates also has a cute cameo.

Great scenes include Martha Plimton talking about taking a shit, Eric dancing around his apartment sing-songing "I have a girlfriend now" after receiveing a hang-up on his answering machine, and the line "We're not going to meet anyone. We're just going to die weird and dumb."

Rent this movie. If you hate it, send me a message and I'll refund your $2.99. Be sure to watch the outtakes under the final credits.

Bn' (Of course, your mileage may vary) B

Thanks for the description -- I have heard great things about it.

I've added it to our queue.Back to top
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Movies I've seen the most:

Ninja Bachelor Party
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Fight Club
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:11 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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Replaced_Texan wrote:
bold_n_brazen wrote:

8. Sleep with Me (just for the Quentin Tarantino "Top Gun is the best homosexual love story ever made" monologue/cameo)

See, this spawns another poll "Movies that are godawful but are partially salvaged by that one scene." I LOVE the Tarantino monologue in this movie, but I would never force anyone to sit through the rest of it just for the scene.

Movie thoughts while listening to GWB on NPR:

I disagree with he/she who put Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the "plays different roles" list. I've never seen him play anything but his nebbishy weirdo Boogie Nights/Happiness guy, with slight variations (by the way, his Happiness role is GENIUS).

One-scene movies:

Post-interupted because GWB just pushed all his chips into the center of the table.

Keep up the movie talk though. - My all time great dark-horse movie recommendation is John Woo's The Killer, but it doesn't have the same impact when not seen on the big screen. I can never turn off "Some Kind of Wonderful" when it comes on the TV either.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:23 pm__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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str8_outa_covina wrote:
My all time great dark-horse movie recommendation is John Woo's The Killer, but it doesn't have the same impact when not seen on the big screen.

I am a huge fan of John Woo's HK films, and The Killer is my favorite.

I would say you are my sock puppet, but I hated SKoW from the first time I saw it -- yes, in a movie theater.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:35 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Emoticon Hell
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MangoLassi wrote:
I can't find the link someone posted recently with the supposedly vast array of emoticons.

Would someone be so kind as to post it again so that my life can be complete?

www.mysmilies.com

I complete you.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:07 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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robustpuppy wrote:
Only if you're not better looking than I am.

I can't decide whether you sound more like Morrisey whining about how he hates it when his friends become successful or like Archie chearing a depressed Jughead up by telling him everybody likes Jughead he isn't better than them at anything.

evenodds · 04-01-2003, 01:10 AM

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:14 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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greatwhitenorthchick wrote:
Interesting. I have been on this planet some 30 odd years and worked for about 13-14 years and have never encountered a woman who has become enraged upon seeing my body, abundantly clothed or otherwise. Perhaps my body is just not as fiiiiine as yours. My suggestion is just to ignore these heinous bitches.

My sister was overweight all through high school. In college she became a serious runner and one side effect was getting lean. When my sister got lean, my mom got totally bitchy about it. She went on this rampage accusing my sister of being anorexic. She even bulldoged my sister into seeing a shrink, who told my sister that my mom was nuts. It happens.

It's very different from my grandmas' telling me that and my sister we don't eat enough. They have this idea fixe about about what a normal weight looks like and concerned because they think we look unhealthy. My mom is an entirely different matter.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:15 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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coup_d'skek wrote:
robustpuppy wrote:
Only if you're not better looking than I am.

I can't decide whether you sound more like Morrisey whining about how he hates it when his friends become successful or like Archie chearing a depressed Jughead up by telling him everybody likes Jughead he isn't better than them at anything.

You did read the rest of the morning's posts, didn't you? That was a wisecrack -- tailored to the context, as jokes are supposed to be. A little poke at women's insecurities, my strange little internet friend.
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JustForFun wrote:
I am what I describe as a runner who also eats. I am also, several years older than you, and therein seems to lie the problem.

That's so true. There's an unbelievable variation in the physical condition of people 40 and up. It's HUGE.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:20 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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barely_legal wrote:
Damn, so you are disdainful of women AND the majority of men?

It's so declasse to confuse misogynists with misanthropes.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:22 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Poster most likely to be happy that newbie JustForFun is here?

Wrong, this is sunny bunny all over again. Thanks for playing.Back to top
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Fuck you. Soy is here to stay.

As more and more guys read about the hormonal effects of soy. Only with you and the sistahs.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:27 pm__ _Post subject: Christ this makes me happy . . .
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Opposing counsel:

What will happen to a certain judge in the afterlife:

My feelings about the shoes Coup-kee (great one, RP!) posted: Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 9:36 pm__ _Post subject: the Quiet American
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EvenOdds wrote:
How was A Quiet American?

Michael Caine is extremely good. There are a few scenes where his face emotes a confused, conflicted, and unterly complicated mix of emotions perfectly. There isn't any balderdash cheesy soliloquy's. Just to note, I had recently saw him in the original "Get Carger" and loved the contrast. Incidentally, THAT is a great movie. I'm surprised it was released in those days. It's like a 70's version of grand theft auto.

Brendan Fraser is only OK, but what can you expect? He looks the part to play a typical squarejaw in the league of a thousand men. But he's really out of his element. He kicks ass in the Mummy type action movies and some romantic comedies, and that's really where he belongs.Back to top
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Replaced_Texan wrote:

I complete you.

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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:18 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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robustpuppy wrote:
A little poke at women's insecurities

Then we'll go with the Archie strip. Close call, but although Morrissey's being ironic, he isn't shooting for laughs.

robustpuppy wrote:
my strange little internet friend

coup-kie to you.Back to top
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:54 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Christ this makes me happy . . .
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MangoLassi wrote:
My feelings about the shoes Coup-kee (great one, RP!) posted:[/color]

I trust they compare favorably to Debtslave's recommendations:

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robustpuppy
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There are ugly shoes, and there are shoes in which I wouldn't be caught dead. The shoes you posted are ugly, but people might think that the wearer had odd taste, was European, or both. The shoes the esteemed DS posted look like they ought to be worn with a housecoat and pink foam curlers while driving a buick lesabre station wagon complete with wood paneling through the bus circle of a suburban middle school.

And I mean DS no disrespect. She is SO right on so many things that she can be forgiven this idiosyncrasy (not that she cares about my forgiveness).

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JustForFun
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:08 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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coup_d'skek wrote:
That's so true. There's an unbelievable variation in the physical condition of people 40 and up. It's HUGE.

Not 40 yet, but there is still a huge variation in your late 30's. I think it is because many women have had children by then, and apparently, that is some kind of excuse to let yourself go. They can't do much about the stretch marks and the toll that breast feeding takes on their breasts (except for surgery if they are into that), but they can do something about their asses. That is what I don't get. How can someone let their ass get that big?

Men don't get pregnant, so they have far less of an excuse. I think for most guys, they never have to watch their weight in their 20's. They eat and drink, but because they are so physically active and have great metabolism, they stay fit. Then something starts to happen to them right about 34. By 40, far too many of them are looking pretty bad.

Guys, take heed, if you are losing your hair, don't compound it by letting yourself gains a few pounds. The bald and plump look is not a good one.

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Jack_Manfred
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 2:24 am__ _Post subject: Re: Poll
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pursejunkie wrote:
Same Damn Role...
4) Bruce Willis (can't !@#$% stand him)

PJ, your hatred for Bruce Willis is severly clouding your judgment of his acting. Let's review some of them that illustrate how incredibly freaking wrong you are about him playing the same role every time.

1. Moonlighting. Bruce might not be a ham as David Addison, but he's certainly not kosher. Haven't seen this much mugging since that Knicks-Heat series years back.
2. Die Hard. Bruce as everyman-action hero. People forget that he showed a vulnerability conspicuously lacking in the Stallone/Arnold genre.
3. Twelve Monkeys. In interviews, Terry Gilliam reveals that he consciously made Bruce refrain from three acting tricks (the thing he does with his lip, etc.) that he had used before.
4. Pulp Fiction. Very natural performance.
5. The Whole Nine Yards. Broad comedy.
6. Unbreakable. Sedate, as in almost sedated.

Say what you want about his roles, but don't tell me that Bruce was the same in The Whole Nine Yards and Unbreakable.

Now, on to the most watchable movies...

1. Desperado. The only time this movie is not about a gunfight, it's about having sex with Salma Hayek. Genius. "Bless me Father for I have just killed quite a few men."
2. Snatch. I saw this three times in theatres. Guy Ritchie knows how to use music in film. The scene where "Disco Science" plays while dogs chasing a hare (coursing) are intercut with Bricktop's henchmen chasing and torturing Tyrone is brilliant. "Do you know what 'nemesis' means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me!"
3. The Big Lebowski. "Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man." This pretty much goes for all Coen Brothers movies. I really liked The Man Who Wasn't There, but that film is one you have to see from beginning to end. It's operating at a waltz rhythm.
4. Pulp Fiction. I have this on DVD, but I still watch it to the end if I see it on cable. "Normally, both of you would be dead as fucking fried chicken by now, but since I'm in a transitional period, I don't want to kill either one of your asses."
5. Clerks. My favorite Kevin Smith film. "Hey, try not to suck any dick on the way through the parking lot!"
6. LA Confidential. "Wendell, I'd like full and docile co-operation on every topic."
7. Better Off Dead. "What's a little boy like you doing with big boy smut like this?"
8. The Princess Bride. "I mean, if we only had a wheelbarrow, that would be something."
9. Croupier. This is a pretty obvious one given my name.
10. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. "If you hold back anything, I'll kill ya. If you bend the truth or I think your bending the truth, I'll kill ya. If you forget anything I'll kill ya. In fact, you're gonna have to work very hard to stay alive, Nick. Now do you understand everything I've said? Because if you don't, I'll kill ya."

Another dozen watchable films: Amelie, Being John Malkovich, Broadcast News, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Dr. Strangelove, Groundhog Day, Ocean's Eleven, The Royal Tennenbaums, Rushmore, Say Anything, Sexy Beast, The Woman Chaser.

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coup_d'skek
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 7:30 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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Why don't you people just run? It is actually fun.

It's not fun for my shins. I just use an erg. That's tough enough. Any kind of arobic exercise you can do hard enough to make yourself puke isn't exactly a walk in the park.Back to top
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paigowprincess
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:38 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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Not 40 yet, but there is still a huge variation in your late 30's. I think it is because many women have had children by then, and apparently, that is some kind of excuse to let yourself go. They can't do much about the stretch marks and the toll that breast feeding takes on their breasts (except for surgery if they are into that), but they can do something about their asses. That is what I don't get. How can someone let their ass get that big?

Men don't get pregnant, so they have far less of an excuse. I think for most guys, they never have to watch their weight in their 20's. They eat and drink, but because they are so physically active and have great metabolism, they stay fit. Then something starts to happen to them right about 34. By 40, far too many of them are looking pretty bad.

Guys, take heed, if you are losing your hair, don't compound it by letting yourself gains a few pounds. The bald and plump look is not a good one.

By the reaction to me on these boards, I am beginning to realize that I am talking to a bunch of fatties. Why don't you people just run? It is actually fun.

I was watching Fire Island last night which is shockingly a show about a summer house of gay men (and another about gay women) on Fire Island. I noticed that there was a predominance of Paul Schaffer/Stanford Blach headed men on buff muscle bods. While I agree that bald and fat is not a good look, this looked a little odd to me as well. Like one of those books you had as a kid where yoou mix and match the heads, midriffs and legs. And I hav no idae how they tell each other apart.Back to top
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Not_Bob
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 9:40 am__ _Post subject: A New Poll
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coup_d'skek wrote:
... or like Archie chearing a depressed Jughead up by telling him everybody likes Jughead he isn't better than them at anything.

Apropos of nothing, this reminds me of the classic poll question -- Betty or Veronica?

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spookyfish
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:06 am__ _Post subject: Re: A New Poll
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Not_Bob wrote:

Apropos of nothing, this reminds me of the classic poll question -- Betty or Veronica?

My answer changes every so often, though in the end I'd probably go with Veronica. I like Betty, but I have a thing for complicated, darked-haired women.

While I agree with you that my answer changes every so often, I'm inclined to go with Betty here. The problem with Veronica is that she is too inclined to like someone only for the buck. Betty is a bit more real.

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spookyfish
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:12 am__ _Post subject: The decline and fall of Western Civilzation? -- Fear Factor.
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Did anyone check out Fear Factor last night. Usually I laugh because of the willingness people have to degrade themselves or put themselves at risk for $$$, but I also find it interesting to see what the contestants will do with the cash if they win. Did anybody see this last night. The dude who won (I forget his name) told everybody that if he won, the first thing he was going to do was get ass implants. ASS IMPLANTS??? WTF????

The saddest thing about that show is that you know 90% of the winners are going to use their winnings to buy some really dumb shit.

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pursejunkie
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:16 am__ _Post subject: Re: Fuck Me Clothes
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JustForFun wrote:

By the reaction to me on these boards, I am beginning to realize that I am talking to a bunch of fatties. Why don't you people just run? It is actually fun.

I think it's particularly exasperating when aerobic-nut whippets yap on about how fun exercise is. People are fat because it's largely not fun, and eating is. Why not just say, "yes, spinning classes really are misery unto death, but you will die before you can even finish that box of Twinkies, and you will never ever be asked to have sex with anyone ever again, if you don't suck it up and do this." Honesty I can respect.

I exercise because I don't want to croak early from a heart attack and lift weights because my bones will fold like an envelope if I don't keep 'em strong, not because I enjoy it. While individual activities (walking the dog, swimming, biking, etc.) that don't seem like exercise are fun and can get people moving despite themselves, perkily saying that exercise is fun will only make people roll their eyes and grab the Cheetos.

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dtb
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:23 am__ _Post subject: Re: ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL ANOTHER POLL
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I disagree with he/she who put Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the "plays different roles" list. I've never seen him play anything but his nebbishy weirdo Boogie Nights/Happiness guy, with slight variations (by the way, his Happiness role is GENIUS).

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kafka_esquire
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:39 am__ _Post subject: Re: The decline and fall of Western Civilzation? -- Fear Fac
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The saddest thing about that show is that you know 90% of the winners are going to use their winnings to buy some really dumb shit.

Actually, that's what makes it funny. Sort of like the slacker I read about a few yaers ago in the Washington Post. He made the paper the first time because at the height of the boom, he cashed in his AOL stock and quit his job at AOL to "see where life takes him" (or something liek that). He burned through all his cash (a couple million) in about a year, and had nothing to show for it other than a low-end rice-rocket motorcycle.

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spookyfish
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 10:55 am__ _Post subject: Re: The decline and fall of Western Civilzation? -- Fear Fac
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spookyfish wrote:
The saddest thing about that show is that you know 90% of the winners are going to use their winnings to buy some really dumb shit.

Actually, that's what makes it funny. Sort of like the slacker I read about a few yaers ago in the Washington Post. He made the paper the first time because at the height of the boom, he cashed in his AOL stock and quit his job at AOL to "see where life takes him" (or something liek that). He burned through all his cash (a couple million) in about a year, and had nothing to show for it other than a low-end rice-rocket motorcycle.

Not sure whether he also got ass implants. ..

Well, yes and no (about being funny I mean). True, you can laugh about the fact that these morons have their priorities hopelessly fucked up. The problem is, you have to share a neighborhood/city/country/planet with thousands, if not millions of people just like them.

Frankly, I'd be more interested in knowing what the AOL dude is up to now. Is he on public assistance because he was too stupid to manage his money, or has he landed on his feet? I don't deny that there aren't people who have a legitimate need for help, but I sure wouldn't want to find out that my tax dollars are going to support a stupid fuck like him.

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paigowprincess
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:06 am__ _Post subject: Married by America anyone?
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Only caught the last half of this. What the dillyo with Stephen (?), the guy with one of the Denise's? No sex drive. I know she isnt the hottest but isnt this an embarrassing statement ergarding his virility to America? Is he gay? He is pretty attractive. Is 35 too old to come out of the closet?Back to top
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:12 am__ _Post subject: Re: Which movies can't you turn off?
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TexLex wrote:
Better Off Dead (Frawnch Fries, Frawnch Dressing...)
Princess Bride
Office Space
Real Genius
Wizard of Oz (remember when it would come on only once a year and it was a big event?)
Christmas Vacation
Ferris Bueller

Good lord. What a great list. If you replaced Wizard of Oz with Weird Science and/or Mash, rolled a blunt or two and bought some beer and snacks, we could actually hang out.

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nyerinexile
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:14 am__ _Post subject: Movie Stars
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Building on the prior polls. I have a poll that is a question my friends and I have kicked around for years. Is there really a 20-30 something movie star of the caliber of Paul Newman or Marlon Brando. That is someone with real acting talent, and the presence to carry a movie?

I'm not sure there is, but the names that always come up are the following.

Vince Vaughn--Contrast "A Cool Dry Place" and "Swingers" also that movie with Anne Heche and Juaoquim (sp?) Phoenix something with Paradise in the title.
Matt Damon--"Ripley" and "Good Will Hunting"
Brad Pitt--Seven, Legends of the Fall, Fight Club and A River Runs Through It.
Ed Norton--I personally think he's the best actor, but can he carry and action movie the same way Newman does?

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EvenOdds
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:25 am__ _Post subject: Re: Married by America anyone?
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paigowprincess wrote:
Only caught the last half of this. What the dillyo with Stephen (?), the guy with one of the Denise's? No sex drive. I know she isnt the hottest but isnt this an embarrassing statement ergarding his virility to America? Is he gay? He is pretty attractive. Is 35 too old to come out of the closet?

He's 35 and single -- and, given his behavior, he has serious commitment issues. He seems to be pulling back as fast as he can.

The Jennifer girl with Xavier ("Frenchie") is such a bitch, especially with the faces she makes. No doubt why she is single.

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paigowprincess
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:35 am__ _Post subject: Re: Married by America anyone?
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EvenOdds wrote:
paigowprincess wrote:
Only caught the last half of this. What the dillyo with Stephen (?), the guy with one of the Denise's? No sex drive. I know she isnt the hottest but isnt this an embarrassing statement ergarding his virility to America? Is he gay? He is pretty attractive. Is 35 too old to come out of the closet?

He's 35 and single -- and, given his behavior, he has serious commitment issues. He seems to be pulling back as fast as he can.

The Jennifer girl with Xavier ("Frenchie") is such a bitch, especially with the faces she makes. No doubt why she is single.

The person I felt sorriest for was Matt. Good thing he gets to go home now. Do you think his people picked Cortes to be mean?

I didnt catch the pick the fiance part of the show so I dunno. But I can say if I had to lie in bed with either xavier or Matt and either of them tried to touch me I would totally recoil. THey are both squicky. Especially xavier. THat guy just oozes something repellant to me.

I didnt realize this show had a vote em off compenent (shocking!). I thought that Steven was toast for sure bc any guy who couldnt get it up even with cameras has something wrong with him and is not marriage material. Then again, COrtest basically asked the judges to take her out.Back to top
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TexLex
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:02 pm__ _Post subject: Re: Which movies can't you turn off?
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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
TexLex wrote:
Better Off Dead (Frawnch Fries, Frawnch Dressing...)
Princess Bride
Office Space
Real Genius
Wizard of Oz (remember when it would come on only once a year and it was a big event?)
Christmas Vacation
Ferris Bueller

Good lord. What a great list. If you replaced Wizard of Oz with Weird Science and/or Mash, rolled a blunt or two and bought some beer and snacks, we could actually hang out.

TM

Awwww, aren't you sweet today? I've never seen Wierd Science, but I do own MASH, FWIW, and it was a runner up to the list. After some thought, I would also have to add Caddyshack and my very favorite movie of all time (cannot believe I forgot this one!) Restless Natives (see: http://www.scotlandthemovie.com/movies/fnatives.html since no one will have heard of this one and it is not available anywhere except my house, since I have possibly the only copy in Texas).

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ThurgreedMarshall
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Query

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ltlfb wrote:
How many scrotums (scrota?) would it take to make a handbag big enough to fit the wallet, the sunglasses, and the cell phone?

Judging from her last story, it takes more of GWNC's ex's balls than it would normally.

ltlfb wrote:
OH FOR CHRISSAKES knock it off, or email her or something.

Did my favorite crackho get jacked for her rocks again (and no, I'm not talkin' about Wonk's momma)? It ain't all I posted, babe. And enough people get the joke that sending an email is pointless.

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TexLex
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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MangoLassi wrote:
May I gently suggest to you that logos are pitiful, repugnant and morally wrong telegraphs of fashion insecurity.

Interesting - I never saw it quite that way, however, I refuse to wear any sort of logo because if I'm going to be someone's billboard, they're going to have to pay me for the goddamned advertising space.

And to all those people wearing out at the mall parading around in a Hilfiger Tee or (god forbid) an Old Navy Tee - It's just a T-Shirt, you fool! You are not special - you are not some sort of fashion maven! It's free advertising and YOU paid THEM for it, you idiot!

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ltlfb
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Query

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ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Did my favorite crackho get jacked for her rocks again (and no, I'm not talkin' about Wonk's momma)? It ain't all I posted, babe. And enough people get the joke that sending an email is pointless.

That didn't even make sense. Maybe you should go order dinner.

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MangoLassi
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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TexLex wrote:
MangoLassi wrote:
May I gently suggest to you that logos are pitiful, repugnant and morally wrong telegraphs of fashion insecurity.

[color=brown]Interesting - I never saw it quite that way, however, I refuse to wear any sort of logo because if I'm going to be someone's billboard, they're going to have to pay me for the goddamned advertising space.

Yes! Yes! Yes!

People who wear logos advertise both (1) their willingness to be a dupe, and (2) the product -- for free.

Now if someone wanted to PAY me to parade around as a trampy, bitchy little arriviste carrying an LV logo bag and a Gucci logo shoes and wearing Chanel logo sunglasses -- and it's a role I'd charge Julia Roberts-like sums for -- I'd consider offers.

With the money I'd have all my stuff custom made.

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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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TexLex wrote:
And to all those people wearing out at the mall parading around in a Hilfiger Tee or (god forbid) an Old Navy Tee - It's just a T-Shirt, you fool! You are not special - you are not some sort of fashion maven! It's free advertising and YOU paid THEM for it, you idiot!

I happily wear logos, on the assumption that I would have paid even more for the quality merchandise I am sporting had I not agreed, as a part of the bargain, to offset those costs by displaying said logos. It's a win-win, baby.

T. (not) S.

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject: brand whore

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I don't agree with Mango. Until I have the money to have everything I own stitched up custom (never gona happen), I'm content to let the big houses speak for me. That and I'm WAY too lazy to worry about potentially being a billboard. If the bag I'm carrying sends the message that I care about quality leather goods then so be it.

Since when did conspicuous consumption become a bad thing? This is America dammit! The country was built on branding!

There are worse things to whore one's self for after all.

Island (workin' a corner near you) Girl

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Query

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ltlfb wrote:
ThurgreedMarshall wrote:
Did my favorite crackho get jacked for her rocks again (and no, I'm not talkin' about Wonk's momma)? It ain't all I posted, babe. And enough people get the joke that sending an email is pointless.

That didn't even make sense. Maybe you should go order dinner.

Sorry. Let me fix that for you.

I was referring to you when I implied that someone may have taken your crack, thus putting you in a bad mood. I also anticipated and defused a possible "ya momma" joke response from you by turning any such joke onto Taxwonk.

Then I informed you that the "inside" joke was not the only thing in my post. If it was, you might have had a point about not posting jokes other posters don't understand. Since there was actual substance (relatively speaking) in the post, I do not feel bad about it.

Next I let you know that it's not much of an inside joke anyway, since so many people know about it. But since it is still personal in nature, I decided to limit the facts I shared with the world (which necessarily includes you).

But good call on the dinner thing. G'night.

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MangoLassi
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: brand whore

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IslandGirl wrote:
If the bag I'm carrying sends the message that I care about quality leather goods then so be it.

Good quality stuff speaks for itself, and that on casual inspection. The only product/brand I want to advertise is brand MangoLassi.

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TexLex
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:
TexLex wrote:
And to all those people wearing out at the mall parading around in a Hilfiger Tee or (god forbid) an Old Navy Tee - It's just a T-Shirt, you fool! You are not special - you are not some sort of fashion maven! It's free advertising and YOU paid THEM for it, you idiot!

I happily wear logos, on the assumption that I would have paid even more for the quality merchandise I am sporting had I not agreed, as a part of the bargain, to offset those costs by displaying said logos. It's a win-win, baby.

T. (not) S.

Admit it - You're wearing a "Tommy" shirt at this very moment, aren't you?

I wear my BBBS, UH, and Blood Donor T-shirts frequently on weekends because they are among the few logos worthy of being displayed across my bosom.

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TexLex
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 6:55 pm Post subject: Re: brand whore

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IslandGirl wrote:
Since when did conspicuous consumption become a bad thing? This is America dammit! The country was built on branding!

We've only been here since '75 so it never really caught on in my household. I should add that I didn't go to a McDonalds until I was in high school (and BK until law school), if that makes you feel better.

-T(The sheltered)L

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Mister_Ruysbroeck
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I don't think this CTD is the same CTD as the one from infirmation.

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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:14 pm Post subject: Someday I will make sweet love to JustForFun's body.

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Mister_Ruysbroeck wrote:
I don't think this CTD is the same CTD as the one from infirmation.

What is wrong with that? I am a different Pretty Little Flower than the one from the Infirmation web site. A better one. Smarter. Faster. A body that would make JustForFun feel insecure and inadequate.

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Ben wa balls.

When did you realize they were sex toys and not ancient chinese arthritis exercise tools?

(I was walking through the French, er Freedom, Market in New Orleans a while back, with two friends, and one of them was scandalized when we pointed out that ben wa balls and probably the hitachi magic wand were the only sex toys sold out on the street like that. We figured by 34 she had no excuse for not knowing what they were.)

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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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TexLex wrote:

Admit it - You're wearing a "Tommy" shirt at this very moment, aren't you?

I wear my BBBS, UH, and Blood Donor T-shirts frequently on weekends because they are among the few logos worthy of being displayed across my bosom.

Uncanny -- it's like you have a webcam in my office!

Do you separate your attire into that which is bosom-worthy and not-bosom-worthy?

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kafka_esquire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:37 pm Post subject:

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Okay. Perhaps I am dense. Or I at least forget this area of the law, but why was the FBI involved with this? The person who took the item did so during a war.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/19/bil...hts/index.html

Does that mean that all items stolen during war have to be given back to the rightful owners or their heirs? Couldn't that start a string of litigation?

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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject: Hmmmmm

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Hmmmmm. Check out the main page for the site referenced in Kafka's new signature: http://www.fizzybrain.com/

That image looks somehow familiar....

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Atticus_Grinch
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:04 pm Post subject:

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kafka_esquire wrote:
why was the FBI involved with this?

If you're asking from a jurisdictional standpoint, it was probably a violation of the predecessor of 18 U.S.C. § 2314 -- transporting stolen goods across state lines. Hence, FBI.

kafka_esquire wrote:
The person who took the item did so during a war. * * * Does that mean that all items stolen during war have to be given back to the rightful owners or their heirs? Couldn't that start a string of litigation?

Well, it's kinda a unique situation where one nation's laws are being used to vindicate the property rights of both the looter and the lootee. So the Civil War is a thornier issue than most. But generally, yeah, the law of war does frown upon the wholesale expropriation of private property by uniformed regulars. Only the civilized nations observe this, but I think it was and is a military crime forcibly to take souvenirs from civilians.

As for the string of litigation, I took an advanced property class in LS in which we argued over whether Union projectiles found throughout the South could be said to be federal property, or subject to the law of abandonment. The debate went longer than it should, because some people take this shit seriously. So yes, but usually it's only worthwhile if it's a Nazi-looted Picasso. http://www.lootedart.com/

A(Nazis . . . Doh! I lose)G

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kafka_esquire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:22 pm Post subject:

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Re: "If you're asking from a jurisdictional standpoint, it was probably a violation of the predecessor of 18 U.S.C. § 2314 -- transporting stolen goods across state lines. Hence, FBI."

Thanks. Of course, now I'm curious whether a statute of limitations could have run. . .

As to the second part, I was more or less being a smart-ass (I deleted that part of tmy post that addressed when we were going to return (or compensate for) the land we stole from the Indians) but you raised an interesting point. Thanks for the info. Seriously.

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Atticus_Grinch
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:30 pm Post subject:

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kafka_esquire wrote:
As to the second part, I was more or less being a smart-ass

I think Plated (RIP) anointed me the king of earnest, striving responses to his jests.

A(the once and future king)G

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Not_Bob
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: brand whore

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MangoLassi wrote:
The only product/brand I want to advertise is brand MangoLassi.

I'd gladly wear a MangoLassi logo splayed across my bosom -- when will the t-shirts be available?

Apropos of nothing, the freakishly evil-looking (yet remarkably skillful) Bobby Holik just put the Rangers up by 2. Holik, Carter, Sandy McCarthy -- God help the Senators if New York sneaks into the number 8 spot.

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: what the...?!?!?!?

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IslandGirl wrote:
LV . . . [is] kicky and fun! Kicky and fun...say it!
Island (I like liver and baby puke) Girl

My third-grade teacher had a liver & vomit purse, and I have always associated that logo with her. So rather than kicky and fun, it says suburban middle-class late-seventies grasping beeyotch who never should have gone into teaching.

It all goes back to elementary school, doesn't it?

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: My bad

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IslandGirl wrote:

Sorry for the confusion. I'll endeavor to be clearer in the future.

Island (beleaguered) Girl

Look, as long as you're kissing up, please do not use endeavor as a verb. In fact, banish it from your vocabulary altogether. "Try" is a good synonym.

R (channeling Strunk & White) P

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:
I happily wear logos, on the assumption that I would have paid even more for the quality merchandise I am sporting had I not agreed, as a part of the bargain, to offset those costs by displaying said logos. It's a win-win, baby.

T. (not) S.

Quit spouting that economics shit. You didn't go to Chicago. Did you?

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:45 pm Post subject:

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Mister_Ruysbroeck wrote:
I don't think this CTD is the same CTD as the one from infirmation.

I was thinking the same thing earlier today.

R (not you) P

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:47 pm Post subject: Serial catsup

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Sorry for the flurry of consecutive posts. You're all just so interesting!

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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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robustpuppy wrote:
Quit spouting that economics shit. You didn't go to Chicago. Did you?

Didn't you just say it all goes back to elementary school? Here's what dinner-table conversations were like in my family:

Quote:

The Nine-Year-Old: Dad? I've been reading the Twelve-Year-Old's World War II books...

Dad: Yes?

The Nine-Year-Old: And was there really a time when if you had 200 German marks the most you could trade them for was one cent?

Dad: Yes. And worse than that. At its worst--at its worst, at the peak of the German hyperinflation, one dollar would buy you four trillion marks.

The Nine-Year-Old: Why did this happen?

Dad: Well, the government had bills to pay and wanted to spend money--to spend money on the unemployed, on public works, on payments to those who had quit their jobs in protest over the French army's moving into the Ruhr Valley. The German government didn't want to tax enough to cover all its spending. And nobody would let the German government borrow from them. So they printed money, and there was inflation.

The Nine-Year-Old: What is inflation, exactly?

Dad: When everyone thinks they have more money in their pockets and bank accounts than they need, and everyone tries to spend it at once, and so prices in terms of money rise: money becomes worth less--and, in the German case in the early 1920s, worthless.

The Nine-Year-Old: Dad?

Dad: Yes?

The Nine-Year-Old: You're not as funny as you think you are. I just think you should know that.

Dad: Thank you.

The Nine-Year-Old: So why does this book say this inflation was such a bad thing?

Dad: Well, first of all, it was unfair. How would you feel if you were a German family that had saved 5,000 marks and put it in the bank, and inflation made it so that that 5,000 marks was worth not the $1250 it had been worth before World War I, but only 125 one-billionths of a cent?

The Nine-Year-Old: Annoyed.

Dad: And the whole point of money is to make buying things convenient--all you need to carry on a shopping trip is a small purse. But in the German hyperinflation... think of people taking wheelbarrows full of money to the grocery store, and returning with a small bag of groceries because of how much inflation had eroded the value of their currency.

The Nine-Year-Old: I think I know how I would have stopped it--stopped the inflation.

Dad: What would you have done?

The Nine-Year-Old: When the mark was worth only a trillionth--I would have stopped printing marks, and printed something else that was worth a trillion times as much, and promised not to print so much of it that people would start spending too fast.

Dad: That's what they did. They created a rentenmark, worth one trillion marks. And they said that the number of rentenmarks would be controlled by an agency independent of the government, so the government couldn't tell it to print more of them.

The Nine-Year-Old: Did it work?

Dad: Yes, it worked. As Uncle Milton says, inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon. Stop printing money, stop letting the money supply grow, and the inflation stops.

The Nine-Year-Old: How long before they did this?

Dad: Oh, the hyperinflation went on for three or four years.

The Nine-Year-Old: Why did it take them so long? I'm just a kid. If a nine-year-old kid can think up what to do, why did it take them so long?

Dad: Well, first, you probably would have made a better central banker than Hjallmar Schacht. Second... inflation allows a government to spend more or tax less than it would have to otherwise. If you cannot convince the government that the inflation is doing more harm than cutting spending or raising taxes would, you won't be able to convince the government to stop it. And it's only when you get to the wheelbarrows-full-of-money stage that the government is easy to convince. As long as the government sees inflation as the lesser evil, the least bad choice, the fact that we know how to stop it doesn't matter--because the government doesn't want to stop it.

The Nine-Year-Old: Humph.

So, pity me.

edited for clarity

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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:04 pm Post subject: paging Penske

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BTW, someone is 31 posts short of our first K on this board . . . .

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robustpuppy
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:

Father to son: Well, first, you probably would have made a better central banker than Hjallmar Schacht.
So, pity me.

Pity you! If only MY father had told me I would have made a better central banker than Hjallmar Schacht, who knows where I would be today.

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kafka_esquire
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:08 pm Post subject: Yeah, but

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Look at the page views. . . Astounding!

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Tyrone_Slothrop
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2003 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Fashion crimes

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robustpuppy wrote:
Tyrone_Slothrop wrote:

Father to son: Well, first, you probably would have made a better central banker than Hjallmar Schacht.
So, pity me.

Pity you! If only MY father had told me I would have made a better central banker than Hjallmar Schacht, who knows where I would be today.

Um, at another large law firm?

Or do you mean, also here on the Fashion Board?

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