A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

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Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Travel agent advised against this for my honeymoon. Wanted to do Amalfi Coast and Santorini and she said it would be too much. But we only had 9-10 days.

Now I want to go back to the Amalfi Coast. Right now.

Oh, yeah, I didn't mean both on the same trip.

Also, try Sicily.

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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Looks like I'll have a trip to Sicily next May. Taormina. We're also looking at a trip to Egypt in the winter. As long as people are giving out fancy travel suggestions.

Taormina is beautiful and a lot fancier/swankier, at least to my recollection, than the rest of the island. It was among our last stops after having traversed a bit of the island. Definitely a recommendation, although maybe I liked Cefalu and Erice a bit more, just for feeling, at least at that time, a tiny bit more authentic.

As for Egypt, there are definitely photos on my facebook of there too. I'm not sure I'd go right now, nor am I sure how the current environment changes my thoughts from when we did go, but that won't stop me from sharing them.

In Cairo, the river was beautiful, as were the highlight sights. But generally one of the things I'm looking for in a city is the ability to walk around and look at stuff. Cairo was the least walkable place I've been, perhaps. Not only because of the crazy traffic that feels out of control, but also because it was very hard to navigate. Definitely worth a visit, but not among my favorite cities.

The thing is we wanted to do a Nile cruise, which meant that we did something we never do: booked a tour. At the time it made some sense as there would have been some slightly complicated logistics to work out, and there are some local concerns that it would be nice to have help with, but the experience did not leave me wanting to do more tours.

Starting with the cruise. We flew from Cairo to Aswan, skipping the much earlier flight to Abu Simbel, which might have been a mistake. I did enjoy the small boat tour of the Nile below the damn, although the stop at the "Nubian village" was the sort of thing that makes me not do tours, and the physical setting around the river there was very nice. I don't recall there being much to the town, although we did walk around a shopping area for awhile. We slept aboard the boat, but there was a classy-looking, Victorian era (perhaps not technically) hotel that seemed like the way I might have gone had I been more comfortable with the area/involved in the planning.

From there it was however many days of cruising and stopping at temples and things along the way. Again, I don't regret doing it, but the boats not all that much fun, and there's only so much looking at riverbank to do. It did leave me time to wonder if we couldn't have driven and had a better experience with hotels and restaurants instead of everything on the boat.

End of the cruise was in Luxor, where I would have been happy to spend more time. I would have liked to explore the town some more, and, of course, the temples in the city and tombs across the river are places where you can definitely find interesting things to do. I guess my recommendation would be skip the cruise and just fly to Luxor and spend a few days there.

From Luxor we fly to Sharm el Sheikh on the red sea. While our resort was lovely, it was a bit outside of town. Given that we're the type that like to walk around, being closer in would have been nice and we actually did like the town itself too, at least for wandering before and after dinner. Great snorkeling, even right off the beach, although the water was a lot colder than I expected. It would be a great place for a beach vacation if it wasn't quite so far away.

You also need to be prepared to completely ignore the vendors selling crap to tourists or even local pan handlers. If you acknowledge them at all, they won't leave you alone.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Flinty_McFlint

My personal opinion is that from a scenery standpoint, it's just incredibly beautiful--there may be other places like it in Greece, but there's nothing remotely close to it the rest of the world.

It is, and I've never seen anything else like it.

And yeah, if you're better at relaxing in one place and I and my typical travelling party, you can probably make it work.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I really need to get to the islands, and to Crete, and Cyprus, too....

Athens is one of my favorite cities, but I haven't gotten to see much of Greece outside it. I just love having museums open until 11 and having dinner afterwards. A client has a place on Naxos to which I keep getting invited. Eat much Halloumi.

Looks like I'll have a trip to Sicily next May. Taormina. We're also looking at a trip to Egypt in the winter. As long as people are giving out fancy travel suggestions.

Taormina is beautiful in a way, but really touristy and sterile. I would spend time elsewhere in Sicily (or I could rent you the family manse in Caulonia for a week, say for $1000?) that is more real then rest up in Taormina- go when Etna is active.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by Paisley

Oh, and one evening while I was there, my travelling companions and I hosted a party at the villa we had rented. Unbeknownst to us, that evening was apparently the anniversary of the fabled volcano that caused Atlantis to drop beneath the sea. In celebration there was much live music and, even better, a huge firework show that was launched from the remaining bit of island visible in the ocean directly across from us. It was spectacular.

Can I tag along on the trip?

Hey, you! We should have lunch. Or drinks. Or both.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Taormina is beautiful in a way, but really touristy and sterile. I would spend time elsewhere in Sicily (or I could rent you the family manse in Caulonia for a week, say for $1000?) that is more real then rest up in Taormina- go when Etna is active.

This is part of my drinking in castles tour group, so no choice on Taormina, but I hope to have at least a few days elsewhere on the Island. Most interested in the Greek, Arabic and Norman historical periods. Tell me more about the family manse.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

Taormina is beautiful and a lot fancier/swankier, at least to my recollection, than the rest of the island. It was among our last stops after having traversed a bit of the island. Definitely a recommendation, although maybe I liked Cefalu and Erice a bit more, just for feeling, at least at that time, a tiny bit more authentic.

As for Egypt, there are definitely photos on my facebook of there too. I'm not sure I'd go right now, nor am I sure how the current environment changes my thoughts from when we did go, but that won't stop me from sharing them.

In Cairo, the river was beautiful, as were the highlight sights. But generally one of the things I'm looking for in a city is the ability to walk around and look at stuff. Cairo was the least walkable place I've been, perhaps. Not only because of the crazy traffic that feels out of control, but also because it was very hard to navigate. Definitely worth a visit, but not among my favorite cities.

The thing is we wanted to do a Nile cruise, which meant that we did something we never do: booked a tour. At the time it made some sense as there would have been some slightly complicated logistics to work out, and there are some local concerns that it would be nice to have help with, but the experience did not leave me wanting to do more tours.

Starting with the cruise. We flew from Cairo to Aswan, skipping the much earlier flight to Abu Simbel, which might have been a mistake. I did enjoy the small boat tour of the Nile below the damn, although the stop at the "Nubian village" was the sort of thing that makes me not do tours, and the physical setting around the river there was very nice. I don't recall there being much to the town, although we did walk around a shopping area for awhile. We slept aboard the boat, but there was a classy-looking, Victorian era (perhaps not technically) hotel that seemed like the way I might have gone had I been more comfortable with the area/involved in the planning.

From there it was however many days of cruising and stopping at temples and things along the way. Again, I don't regret doing it, but the boats not all that much fun, and there's only so much looking at riverbank to do. It did leave me time to wonder if we couldn't have driven and had a better experience with hotels and restaurants instead of everything on the boat.

End of the cruise was in Luxor, where I would have been happy to spend more time. I would have liked to explore the town some more, and, of course, the temples in the city and tombs across the river are places where you can definitely find interesting things to do. I guess my recommendation would be skip the cruise and just fly to Luxor and spend a few days there.

From Luxor we fly to Sharm el Sheikh on the red sea. While our resort was lovely, it was a bit outside of town. Given that we're the type that like to walk around, being closer in would have been nice and we actually did like the town itself too, at least for wandering before and after dinner. Great snorkeling, even right off the beach, although the water was a lot colder than I expected. It would be a great place for a beach vacation if it wasn't quite so far away.

You also need to be prepared to completely ignore the vendors selling crap to tourists or even local pan handlers. If you acknowledge them at all, they won't leave you alone.

The stop I have to make is St. Catherine's. Depending on time, I'd like to see Alexandria and the coast more than Cairo, and a stop by some old pyramids or temples is sort of a thing one has to do, right?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

The stop I have to make is St. Catherine's. Depending on time, I'd like to see Alexandria and the coast more than Cairo, and a stop by some old pyramids or temples is sort of a thing one has to do, right?

Don't know St. Catherine at all, and we did not do Alexandria. But you could certainly work in a stop in Luxor to get your fill of temples and tombs. And if you're there, you probably need to hit Giza, which means Cairo.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I'm having a bad morning. Nothing I can put my finger on, just sort of a free-floating sense of doom. It would be stupid of me to say it was totally unrelated to health, but that wasn't really what I was thinking about or feeling when it hit. Whatever it is, it's bigger than and it's bigger than the meds. Anyway, I know this isn't exactly why we come here, but I could use some help.

If you have a little positive energy you could send my way, I'd be grateful. If I get really energized, I will post a topless selfie as a thank you.

TW

good vibes good vibes good vibes.

Shit like this will hit you, hits us all at times I think, and you've been thru a lot more than the rest of us lately.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

good vibes good vibes good vibes.

Shit like this will hit you, hits us all at times I think, and you've been thru a lot more than the rest of us lately.

I'm happy to report that I'm doing much better today. There's nothing like a night's sleep in your own bed, without interruption every two hours, to restore the systemic part of the body. The soul, too, does better at home.

I'm not going to be walking around the block any time soon, but I don't need to call for help in the middle of the night to make it to the head.

You all need to take good care of yourselves. This particular path is not one I would recommend.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I'm happy to report that I'm doing much better today. There's nothing like a night's sleep in your own bed, without interruption every two hours, to restore the systemic part of the body. The soul, too, does better at home.

I'm not going to be walking around the block any time soon, but I don't need to call for help in the middle of the night to make it to the head.

You all need to take good care of yourselves. This particular path is not one I would recommend.

I'm reading Nick Offerman's book right now and it occurs to me that you might enjoy it (if you like his Parks and Rec character at all; he reminds me in some ways of you).* Since you might have some enforced free time to fill up right about now. Speedy recovery vibes coming your way!!

* I generally like it, but it does get a little tired hearing Ron Swanson's voice in my head for the entire book. He might be better suited to a quick magazine article instead of an entire book...

[Hank Chinaski]

today I was on the 2 train heading downtown. At 110th and CPW a thirtish woman got on and sat across from me. The best word to describe her would be precise. She wasn't beautiful, but everything looked put together. Her pants, blouse, coat and bag were all well made, tailored, cleaned and pressed. Her shoes were unique and went well with the rest.

She crossed her leg and her right shoe now had its toe pointed at me.

It was rainy today and on the side of her shoe, where she couldn't see it, there was a leaf right above the sole; it was yellow, oval and small.

I wanted to tell her, it was maddening, she was too put together to not want to know. She would want to know, right? I turned it over and over. The average person wouldn't give a shit about a leaf, but she would.

Then we got to 96th and I got off, having said nothing.

I suspect in retrospect that was best?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

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[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I'm reading Nick Offerman's book right now and it occurs to me that you might enjoy it (if you like his Parks and Rec character at all; he reminds me in some ways of you).* Since you might have some enforced free time to fill up right about now. Speedy recovery vibes coming your way!!

* I generally like it, but it does get a little tired hearing Ron Swanson's voice in my head for the entire book. He might be better suited to a quick magazine article instead of an entire book...

Thanks. I'll have to pick it up. I'm flattered by the comparison.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Then we got to 96th and I got off

Stop masturbating on the subway.