Removing the feeding tube from our aging hipster plaid pants

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Just as an fyi, I have been doing some research and Mexico is no longer a quickie divorce haven. They changed their laws recently and now have strict residency requirements. Same with Haiti. So it's now Guam and the Dominican Republic.

Poor Haiti. My immediate reaction to anything Haiti is this:

'Normally I wear protection, but then I thought, "When am I gonna make it back to Haiti?"'

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Announcer: Bad Idea Jeans.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Is the FBA a he?

Maybe- I just remembered TaxWonk claims he's been banging sequels, so that would all fit.

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Um, "lunatics"? I'm going to regret getting into this, but animals don't have inherent moral value, except in relationship to individual human companions or ecosystems. Cows have fewer friends than horses; this, and only this, is why we do not eat horses. We do, however, feed them to our dogs, whom we lunatics value more highly. The ethical duty you owe to an individual horse is neither to avoid killing it nor to prolong its individual life; it's not to waste its life unnecessarily.

Horses have greater-than-average moral status because individual humans find them to be beautiful and useful. Your aversion to killing horses is simply another way of saying you personally don't particularly want to eat them, which is fine as far as it goes. I'm disgusted by people who eat dogs, but I don't kid myself --- I know that's motivated by the same taboo that would cause many devout Hindus to be disgusted by my choice of lunch. Which, frankly, is slightly different from why a devout American vegetarian would be disgusted by my choice of lunch.

Whatever. Anyway, this is probably the only thing on which the lunatics of Oklahoma have my unwavering support. Did you enjoy the soy bouillabaise at Plouf?

I look forward to "horse-eater" joining "bed-shitter" and "Asian fetishist" in the Atticus entry in your bullet points of things you remember about each board contributor. Regards!

Don't regret it bc I am not going to read it. I am having a fabulous day and don't need to read depressing blather about why decapitating beautiful creatures isn't wrong.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I've learned that when I am snooped on, I can no longer trust the snooper.

So you'd rather be snooped on and not know, than be snooped on and find out?

Actual question. I'm torn. I am currently trying very hard to stay in a state of blissful ignorance about the political proclivities of a guy I know.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Don't regret it bc I am not going to read it. I am having a fabulous day and don't need to read depressing blather about why decapitating beautiful creatures isn't wrong.

FWIW, this would've come across as much more convincing had you simply clipped the first x words of his post instead of reproducing it wholesale.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
Thanks for the responses. I tend to agree with Thurgreed's analysis. As to the question about the basis of my suspicions, I was not snooping out of particular concerns with our relationship at the moment. I was snooping more as a response to historical precedent.

Things in the relationship have seemed pretty good lately. While I agree with Bold N Brazen that there are reasons I looked and there are obviously reasons em is expending energies on someone else, I disagree that snooping is "just as bad". It sounds to me like her situation might be different than mine, because if/when I confront my s.o. on this, it won't be about whose transgression was worse or whether I'm barred from discussing the issue because of my actions. I just want a discussion of what's going on in em's mind and where we can go from here. I want the relationship to work and I want us to get to a place where we can again trust that there are no secrets or lies. I am firmly in the "secrets are bad" camp. Including the secret of my snooping, which is why I'm not overly upset at having to confess that up as well.

In response to gwnc, yes it bothers me. Somewhat from a standpoint of feeling betrayed and somewhat because we've been through this before and I thought we had an agreement. Or, put another way, I didn't realize our relationship was really as fucked up as it apparently is. On some level, I snooped because I'm a snooper and I didn't really expect to find anything.

Finally, in response to Hank, I am quite aware that this will lead to a loss of snooping outlets. That's why I haven't confronted in the lead up to this point. I needed to know more clearly what was going on.

Give us some detail on the other relationship, as you see it. This is the FB and you are anonymous.

TM

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Is the FBA a he?

Just a guess. I hate typing "em".

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Give us some detail on the other relationship, as you see it. This is the FB and you are anonymous.

TM

No, no. Give us some detail on the other relationship as you could worst imagine it. Catching them in the act, preferably with various toys/friends/apparatus involved.

As TM says, this is the FB.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So you'd rather be snooped on and not know, than be snooped on and find out?

Actual question. I'm torn. I am currently trying very hard to stay in a state of blissful ignorance about the political proclivities of a guy I know.

Depends on the level of snooping. Hacking into my e-mail account, not ok. Cyberstalking me and finding my blog, shows initiative and I'm an idiot for putting anything in there that I don't want someone to find out. Reading more than the first page of my journal, not ok. Going through my medicine cabinet/toy box, I sort of expect.

I think I'd rather know where they've been.

ETA: I'm pretty sure that my ex- read/reads my blog and that he had the password to my e-mail account for awhile. He used to hack into my predescessor's e-mail account on a regular basis, so I'm on notice that he's likely to do that sort of thing. I play ostrich about it, though.

I'm pretty sure that he stopped reading my blog after I posted something about the two great loves of my life, and he wasn't on the list.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Not unless she represents Grokster.

I'm thinking more in terms of " . . .this is a proxy server and this is an anonymous remailer service . . ."

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
No, no. Give us some detail on the other relationship as you could worst imagine it. Catching them in the act, preferably with various toys/friends/apparatus involved.

As TM says, this is the FB.

Couldn't you do this imagining yourself? Salacious facts, however subject to interpretation driven by the worst imaginings, would be much more interesting.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
No, no. Give us some detail on the other relationship as you could worst imagine it. Catching them in the act, preferably with various toys/friends/apparatus involved.

As TM says, this is the FB.

Confidential to Sidd:

You jackass. That's our job. What do you think I do around here all day? Are you not in the FB-Union or something? Whose side are you on anyway?

TM

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Couldn't you do this imagining yourself? Salacious facts, however subject to interpretation driven by the worst imaginings, would be much more interesting.

I wasn't suggesting that he tell us which part was imagined and which part real. Sheesh.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
So you'd rather be snooped on and not know, than be snooped on and find out?

Actual question. I'm torn. I am currently trying very hard to stay in a state of blissful ignorance about the political proclivities of a guy I know.

Yes. My rule is, snoop all you want, but you can't use what you find, because snooping is very very bad.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Yes. My rule is, snoop all you want, but you can't use what you find, because snooping is very very bad.

What does "use" mean?