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[Gattigap]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
she just wants to rub it in that her figure is back post baby. But if you ain't all that face wise what does it matter?

Perhaps I was being too subtle in my earlier post. FWIW, IMHO she's so All That her sig line should read "And a Bag o' Chips."

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Are you intentionally torturing the argument? "Cool?" What the hell are you talking about?

I am saying that when a team decides not to honor a contract or will not renegotiate a contract that is overwhelmingly in their favor based on a player's performance, most people think of it as a cool-headed, detached, arm's length business decision that the "team/ownership" is making because it is in the organization's best interest.

When a player attempts to treat the relationship on that level and wants to renegotiate a contract that is no longer anywhere near market, they are perceived as a whiny, bitchy, spoiled, ungrateful asshole who doesn't know how good he has it. It is no longer looked at as a business decision. It is simple greed. Reporters, fans and pretty much everyone else look at it that way. I think that's bullshit.

It's not simply greed. When the team refuses to renegotiate a contract, it's acting with its rights under the contract it signed. If a player holds out, he is repudiating the contract he signed.

Because of the salary cap, success in the NFL is in large part a function of identifying talent and better than other teams and paying less for it. Deon Branch is going to make much more money for every yard he gains this year than he did last year. The immediate problem for the Seahawks now is not that it's going to cost them money -- they're going to max out under the cap regardless, right? Their problem now is how to put together a team going forward given that they have so much money tied up in Branch. So you can understand why management wants to hold talented players to their contracts -- it's their edge over their competitors.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Are you really going to take this?

Sure. I believe I called myself a cunt just the other day.

Now, if I'd been called an obstreperous twat, that'd be something completely different.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I'm thinking about having TM rate the Displaced Dog and The Puppy. Anyone know what TM's rating fees are? Does he give group discounts?

Send me the photos. I will be fair. We can talk fees later.

TM

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Sorry everyone. I can't let this go on anymore. I saw this quote in RP's post have to respond to it.

RP is tall, thin and very, very attractive. She puts you to absolute shame. You shouldn't be allowed to be in the same room as her unless she needs to put her feet up.

And for the record, I am not lying (about you or her looks) and I know she probably doesn't even want me to post something like this and can defend herself.* But you should know that you are a troll compared to her.

TM

*And I'm pretty sure she doesn't even like me after I asked her to stop whining about paigow, but, as a famous brick once said, it is what it is.

See therein lies the crux. you are unable to perceive me as attractive since you feel I'm "chubby" short and "fat" it is in NEON that you find tall thin and reedy as attractive.

I have a flash for you bud. Some men like short, stacked, long hair, decent face and good legs. Actually a lot do.

you're picky and annoying.

and it is *so* evident this about you saying each girl on your little *team* is so hot. ugh. brick. you are.

[J. Fred Muggs]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
she just wants to rub it in that her figure is back post baby. But if you ain't all that face wise what does it matter?

Explain again why you're so concerned about your figure?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
But God forbid they accept an envelope with $5,000 in it even though they spend half their time travelling and practicing and playing in games that make their schools huge money.

Although the schools generate huge revenue, I'm thinking that most schools aren't making a profit. If you look at the 36 teams receiving votes in the this week's AP voting this week, you see five private schools (if I'm counting right): Notre Dame, USC, Miami, TCU, and Boston College. The preponderance of public school suggests to me that football programs are subsidized by state governments -- otherwise, wouldn't you expect to see more private schools up there?

Which is not to say that there isn't a lot of money rolling around in the sport.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by J. Fred Muggs
Explain again why you're so concerned about your figure?

I gained weight with the two kids. kept a lot of it on, lost 25 pounds still losing still need a few more to go. running and dieting running and dieting, I am a cranky bitch.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by patentparanyc
I gained weight with the two kids. kept a lot of it on, lost 25 pounds still losing still need a few more to go. running and dieting running and dieting, I am a cranky bitch.

Marlboro Reds.

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Although the schools generate huge revenue, I'm thinking that most schools aren't making a profit.

They stole that trick from the movie studios, who I thought had a patent on "magic-ink-that-turns-from-black-to-red-on-the-ledger-when-the-ledger-is-exposed-to-oxygen ."

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's not simply greed. When the team refuses to renegotiate a contract, it's acting with its rights under the contract it signed. If a player holds out, he is repudiating the contract he signed.

Ty, you can't take the very thing we are arguing about and use it to draw a conclusion. I am arguing about the way it is set up. Of course they are acting rationally based on the current structure of the NFL. I am arguing that that structure is unfair.

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Because of the salary cap, success in the NFL is in large part a function of identifying talent and better than other teams and paying less for it. Deon Branch is going to make much more money for every yard he gains this year than he did last year. The immediate problem for the Seahawks now is not that it's going to cost them money -- they're going to max out under the cap regardless, right? Their problem now is how to put together a team going forward given that they have so much money tied up in Branch. So you can understand why management wants to hold talented players to their contracts -- it's their edge over their competitors.

It is their edge under the current structure, yes. It is also their edge over the players.

But if contracts were guaranteed, they would actually be punished for poor decision-making and the teams who made the best decisions on talent would have an edge. If you believe Ryan Leaf is truly the best option, sign him to a guaranteed contract. If he's a bust, you're an asshole and you don't know what the fuck you are doing.

Whatever. I'm tired of this argument. Can we go back to talking about bricks?

TM

[pony_trekker]

Q. Why are you here?



A. Bored, need the occasional intellectual break and would rather make smart ass comments than do the same monkey-scribe tasks over and over again.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
They stole that trick from the movie studios, who I thought had a patent on "magic-ink-that-turns-from-black-to-red-on-the-ledger-when-the-ledger-is-exposed-to-oxygen ."

I was looking at inputs, not outputs. I have no idea whether schools make money on football. Presumably Notre Dame, USC et al. are not pissing their investments away. But if it's that lucrative, you would expect to see more private universities getting into the action, no?

Maybe private universities make money from having a football program but aren't willing to subsidize having one in the Top 25.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Marlboro Reds.

crack would help too see below in your fair city

http://gawker.com/news/great-moments...ock-200311.php

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Ty, you can't take the very thing we are arguing about and use it to draw a conclusion. I am arguing about the way it is set up. Of course they are acting rationally based on the current structure of the NFL. I am arguing that that structure is unfair.

OK. I agree.

Whatever. I'm tired of this argument. Can we go back to talking about bricks?

OK. Me too. After you, sir.