I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Yes. MC5. Listen to their live records. The lack of cohesion makes early Black Flag sound like it was produced by Phil Spector.

Stooges were more traditional, but still punk.

Iggy and the stooges are from here too (AA, but I claim it).

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

How did it impact Bernie? Well, of course, no one can empirically measure that. But he lost. And he lost in a close race.

It wasn't close. But you know that.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This response is total bullshit. I'm not going play this game of "show me" with you every time. The paper was nearly 100% in the bag for Hillary from the start. You can find endless criticisms of its bias with cites to its slanted articles from a simple google search.

Translation:

I like to run at the mouth and don't give a shit what I say so stop calling me on it. [Insert additional verbal diarrhea here].

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I blame 538 more than anything because the 3rd party voters felt safe. Hil had it anyway, so they were safe.

But then someone (maybe Less whom I met in November, being in SF as someone from Michigan, man we got called out (not by less) and had to talk about what happened) said there is no showing that 3rd party voters would break more for Hil than Trump. That strikes me as crazy talk.

Question- can you say who you would have voted for between the two?

Question- have you been out of state since the election, in a blue state? You get questioned?

edit- and I'm not dogging on you. seriously interested

1. I asked myself that a million times before the election and came up with "none of the above." The best I can say now is, knowing what I knew then, I was inclined toward her as the safer bet. If I knew then what I know now (Trump has actually created an opportunity for me based on a policy he's touting), I'd have been swayed by my own interests.

2. Yes. Many times. Most people are polite in questioning. My stock answer is, "I have trouble with the man's social agenda, and I'm leery of his trade policies. I liked her social policies, but I had trouble with much of the rest of her agenda. But the world isn't going to end either way, and I'd have been fine with either of them."

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Translation:

I like to run at the mouth and don't give a shit what I say so stop calling me on it. [Insert additional verbal diarrhea here].

Search WaPo, Hillary, Trump, and bias on google. Then go go fuck yourself. And calm down.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

It wasn't close. But you know that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ate_count.html

BTW... http://usuncut.com/politics/bernie-s...crushed-trump/

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

This whole exchange is total ferret shit. Calm down. Fuck you.

I'm still grappling with the fact you never enjoyed the juvenile delight of Slick Rick. I'm not going to cite it, as I'd likely be flagged for supporting sexist raunch, but there is a cut on his first record that's wrong, wrong, wrong, but was so damn funny in high school, and is delivered with such amazing flow, it still astounds me.

ETA: Schoolly D's "Signifying Rapper" (a cut no one could, or should, release today) still remains the best use of Kashmir in a rap tune. And its use in Bad Lieutenant is quite memorable (as is a lot of the rest of that movie).

I've been listening to a bunch of 80s stuff since George Michael died (the piano line from "Freedom" was definitely ripped from James Brown, but whatever -- Michael's use of it is still some of the best 6 minutes in pop of the last 30 years [and the video is the best use of supermodels in music vids]). Also got together with sibling and spouses and watched Eddie Murphy's Delirious for the first time in ages. Still the greatest stand-up movie of all time. Have not laughed that hard in months.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ate_count.html

Look at that for a few minutes.

He lost the 9 largest states. He lost by 10% of total delegates - disregarding superdelegates, which of course he lost by a massive margin. He lost every region of the country other than the mid-west. He lost by almost 4 million votes. He lost every democraphic other than white men. From Super-Tuesday on, he needed a hail mary, and could only get traction by going heavily negative.

Sure. Close. Sure.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

2. Yes. Many times. Most people are polite in questioning. My stock answer is, "I have trouble with the man's social agenda, and I'm leery of his trade policies. I liked her social policies, but I had trouble with much of the rest of her agenda. But the world isn't going to end either way, and I'd have been fine with either of them."

Try that shit in SF you likely get a Bierkenstock(sp?) up yer ass.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Try that shit in SF you likely get a Bierkenstock(sp?) up yer ass.

Fucks given: Zero.

ETA: I do have serious issues with Sessions. He's a troglodyte. But I also had serious issues with Holder. The war on whistleblowers, and the Holder Doctrine (don't attack anything TBTF), were deplorable.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'm still grappling with the fact you never enjoyed the juvenile delight of Slick Rick. I'm not going to cite it, as I'd likely be flagged for supporting sexist raunch, but there is a cut on his first record that's wrong, wrong, wrong, but was so damn funny in high school, and is delivered with such amazing flow, it still astounds me.

ETA: Schoolly D's "Signifying Rapper" (a cut no one could, or should, release today) still remains the best use of Kashmir in a rap tune. And its use in Bad Lieutenant is quite memorable (as is a lot of the rest of that movie).

I've been listening to a bunch of 80s stuff since George Michael died (the piano line from "Freedom" was definitely ripped from James Brown, but whatever -- Michael's use of it is still some of the best 6 minutes in pop of the last 30 years [and the video is the best use of supermodels in music vids]). Also got together with sibling and spouses and watched Eddie Murphy's Delirious for the first time in ages. Still the greatest stand-up movie of all time. Have not laughed that hard in months.

Your grappling is without reason. I have listened quite a bit to both Slick Rick and Schoolly D but just not in high school as their first releases were not until I graduated.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Before the truck hits.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Fucks given: Zero.

ETA: I do have serious issues with Sessions. He's a troglodyte. But I also had serious issues with Holder. The war on whistleblowers, and the Holder Doctrine (don't attack anything TBTF), were deplorable.

I also do not like either cancer or indigestion.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I also do not like either cancer or indigestion.

That's fair. I don't like either, but if I had to choose between those two, it's not even close. I have some serious differences of opinion with Holder. Sessions makes me deeply uncomfortable in my bones.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This response is total bullshit. I'm not going play this game of "show me" with you every time. The paper was nearly 100% in the bag for Hillary from the start. You can find endless criticisms of its bias with cites to its slanted articles from a simple google search.

You can't find even one article that illustrates your horseshit point. The reason for that is that you are wrong. At least in theory, all you would have to do is find any old WaPo article of election coverage, but we both know it would take you a lot of more work to find something, anything, and that's because it doesn't exist.

I certainly have criticized the WaPo's coverage, op-ed and news alike, and if you were to make some sort of serious point about it, I'd be all ears. But to say that you couldn't tell the difference between the news coverage and the op-ed coverage is ridiculous.