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Old 11-10-2005, 11:12 PM   #316
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When you had your coke induced freak out do you think that there was any period of diminished oxygen to the brain?

I care. You know I care.
I think the Stonewall Oxide* does that:

1. Take bong hit (do not exhale);

2. Shot of Makers Mark (still no exhale);

3. Nitrous balloon

Nowowowowowowowowowo exxxxxxxhaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllle.

Brain Death... Perfect dead mental flat line. You and the couch - sewn together as one.... Friend says its as close as you can get to experiencing the Ketamine K-Hole, which is allegedly either the greatest or most horrifying buzz known. YMMV, I guess. I never tried the K.

I recommend Santana's "Lotus" for this gig. That crazy Japanese jazz shit he was playing bounces around the inside of your head in perfect sync with the "wowowowowowo" humming in your head.

In fact, I wonder if anyone has ever listened to Lotus even close to sober. That seems unpossible.

* Stonewall Jackson - same gig, but minus the nitrous 9which makes all the difference).
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:14 PM   #317
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And, as part two, the problem is, of course, where else to go? While I analogize Bush's unwillingness to veto to be similar to the proverbial drunken sailor, the Dems are, literally, drunken sailors, and would only spend until we were all starving and destitute. So, where's the choice? I can't yet afford my own island nation in the Caribbean. But, at the same time, having to vote for people who answer to other people who seem most interested where my buddy's penis fits in is sort of depressing.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:19 PM   #318
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Friend says its as close as you can get to experiencing the Ketamine K-Hole, which is allegedly either the greatest or most horrifying buzz known. YMMV, I guess. I never tried the K.
Poor man's acid. And acid's cheap. So, you decide . . .
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And, as part two, the problem is, of course, where else to go? While I analogize Bush's unwillingness to veto to be similar to the proverbial drunken sailor, the Dems are, literally, drunken sailors, and would only spend until we were all starving and destitute. So, where's the choice? I can't yet afford my own island nation in the Caribbean. But, at the same time, having to vote for people who answer to other people who seem most interested where my buddy's penis fits in is sort of depressing.
I just mash my palms against the levers and hope for the best. The not knowing lets me sleep better. I can say "wasn't my fault" either way, with no conviction, but not bald faced lying either... which is pretty much the quality of everything a litigator says all day anyway.

Oh, we're fucked in 2008. Get the KY ready. Unless the Dems run Hill, we are going to get a crazy tax and spender.

I want Rudy, but he's cooked. The Jesus assholes will secede before they'll see him in the White House. Hagel's great, but got no chance in hell.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:24 PM   #320
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Poor man's acid. And acid's cheap. So, you decide . . .
Acid's cheap, but have you tried finding it lately? Fucking impossible. I need that shit now that I'm having a kid. I can't get all fucked up drunk and pass out anymore. And I ate the last of my mushrooms last week.

My dealer doesn't take my calls anymore and my friends give me shitty pot. I've really let myself go. I used to be responsible about this shit.
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I need that shit now that I'm having a kid.
No, you don't. Kids are a natural disassociative. You're going to be scrambling to find reality, not an exit from it. You'll already have that.
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No, you don't. Kids are a natural disassociative.
Really? Why the fuck didn't you tell me this earlier?
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:40 PM   #323
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Really? Why the fuck didn't you tell me this earlier?
I had serious doubts as to whether you should reproduce.

And I know what I'm talking about. I have serious doubts as to whether I should reproduce.

But it's too late for us . . .
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"One of France's leading TV news executives has admitted censoring his coverage of the riots in the country for fear of encouraging support for far-right politicians.

. . . .

"Politics in France is heading to the right and I don't want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television," Mr Dassier told an audience of broadcasters at the News Xchange conference in Amsterdam today."

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...639538,00.html

Would that the NYT and CBS be so up-front.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:56 PM   #325
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"One of France's leading TV news executives has admitted censoring his coverage of the riots in the country for fear of encouraging support for far-right politicians.

. . . .

"Politics in France is heading to the right and I don't want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television," Mr Dassier told an audience of broadcasters at the News Xchange conference in Amsterdam today."

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...639538,00.html

Would that the NYT and CBS be so up-front.
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Do you have Hank on ignore?
Well, no, I've just been ducking in and out as airport lounges and free wireless allow. Did he already post this? Sorry.
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Old 11-11-2005, 12:03 AM   #327
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I asked bilmore to re-post because I want you liberals to admit the same liberal bias exists in the US. Do you have your soul on ignore Balt- that's the real question bilmore and I ask.
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I asked bilmore to re-post because I want you liberals to admit the same liberal bias exists in the US. Do you have your soul on ignore Balt- that's the real question bilmore and I ask.
I will admit that liberal media is biased. I will admit that every single person in the entire world views the world through the lens of their own experiences and prejudices, and that these must inevitablely color the perspective of every reporter. I'll also admit that the journalist profession - like academia - is almost inevitably biased toward the left due to its economic structures - at the lowest and even mid levels, journalists are paid so poorly that the profession tends to attract a disproportionate number of people who are attracted to the job by its ability to "make an impact" and who view their roles as social benefactors, and who are therefor willing to accept the crappy pay.

I also believe that nonetheless, most journalists are earnest in their desire to do what they perceive to be the right thing.

Finally, I'd note that the freedom of the press belongs to those who own one. One the conservatives got Fox News, I became a lot less sympathetic to accusations of media bias. Accept it and move on.
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I also believe that nonrtheless, most journalists are earnest in their desire to do what they perceive to be the right thing.
Dan Rather believed that the "right thing" involved facilitating the election of Kerry. So, he proceded to use his influence as a high-ranking member of a national press to make up shit in order to fool people into voting as he wanted them to vote.

I don't think this particular point gets you far.
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Dan Rather believed that the "right thing" involved facilitating the election of Kerry. So, he proceded to use his influence as a high-ranking member of a national press to make up shit in order to fool people into voting as he wanted them to vote.

I don't think this particular point gets you far.
I was speaking of generalities, and perceived trend of bias. You respond with an anecdote. I have two responses:

1) Judith Miller

2) The freedom of the press belongs to those who own one. Dan Rather was not elected by anybody. Don't like him? Don't watch him.

ETA: And wait. Not a single person was "fool[ed] ... into voting as he wanted them to vote." Why? Because others brought the mistake/fraud to the nation's attention.
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