A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I do not understand why airlines do not assign overhead space the same way they assign seats. You should get the space assigned to you and if your stuff doesn't fit you have to check it. It should be a standard size for all airlines. Bring as many little bags as you want, as long as they fit in your assigned space. And even on an empty flight, the rule should be enforced so that no one tries to get away with bringing on more than they can fit in that space. It would suck for the first few months after this new approach is implemented, because people are stupid. But it would be better for everyone after that.

The worst people in the world are those who have seats in the back of the plane (or who have boarding priority), who put their extra shit above your seat and then move back to theirs. They fuck it up for everyone.
TM

Much as I like the first part of what you said, I would guess that flight attendants would recoil in horror at having to police this. I'm not sure there is any other reason.

On a note similar to Not Bob's re: Spirit -- on one major airline (Delta?), which I don't often use because SF isn't a hub for them, they allowed early boarding for anyone who would only put stuff under the seat in front of them. Kudos for that idea.

And anyone who puts their coat in the overheard before everyone has been seated, should be shot on the tarmac.

I don't see how any sane person could disagree with this.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Every major company shuts down for the entire week between Christmas and New Year. Most service companies I know are open the day after a major holiday UNLESS it is on Thursday. Making people work (or use a day off) on the Friday after the 4th of July or Christmas is pretty pointless. No one who comes in does anything but bitch about having to be there. Now put in the context of a person who has to schlep into Manhattan that day, just to get fired.

Back when I was working, if I had to go in the day after a holiday, I didn't burn a vacation day. I sat around, bullshitting the three other people in the office, read the paper, and took a 2-hour lunch. Then I'd go back and bullshit some more until we all got an email from upstairs telling us we could go home.

Of course, I also had 15 years straight where I was on the phone for half of dinner every Thanksgiving and New Year's Eve on business.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

FYI - I'm not TSA pre and I haven't taken any liquids out of my carry-on in years. Dopp kitt typically has shaving cream, face lotion, mouthwash, toothpaste and masturbating lotion. I forgot one time and got away with it, and then decided thereafter that I wasn't going to pull out the liquids unless forced to do so. I've never had security make me open my bag and take out the dopp kit. I fly about once or twice a month.

When I travel, I take about 15 vials of different medications with me in my Dopp kit. TSA doesn't WANT to know what's in my bag.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Much as I like the first part of what you said, I would guess that flight attendants would recoil in horror at having to police this. I'm not sure there is any other reason.

Wrong. This would be something that would be largely self-policed. And anything in an overheard compartment of an unassigned seat would be checked.

Me to flight attendant: "This isn't mine, but it was in my space."

Flight attendant to everyone already on board: "This bag will be checked. I'll give anyone on this plane one opportunity to claim it or you can wait for it at the carousel upon arrival."

One month of this and everyone follows the rule.

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wrong. This would be something that would be largely self-policed. And anything in an overheard compartment of an unassigned seat would be checked.

Me to flight attendant: "This isn't mine, but it was in my space."

Flight attendant to everyone already on board: "This bag will be checked. I'll give anyone on this plane one opportunity to claim it or you can wait for it at the carousel upon arrival."

One month of this and everyone follows the rule.

TM

one tweak- "I'll give anyone on this plane one opportunity to claim it or we'll take it off the plane and it will not fly with you." Cannot check that which is unclaimed.

And Thurgreed and I have to get going on the patent applications for the new over head compartments that will be coming along to facilitate this. Cha-ching!

[Hank Chinaski]

First black hockey superstar!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I do not understand why airlines do not assign overhead space the same way they assign seats. You should get the space assigned to you and if your stuff doesn't fit you have to check it. It should be a standard size for all airlines. Bring as many little bags as you want, as long as they fit in your assigned space. And even on an empty flight, the rule should be enforced so that no one tries to get away with bringing on more than they can fit in that space. It would suck for the first few months after this new approach is implemented, because people are stupid. But it would be better for everyone after that.

The worst people in the world are those who have seats in the back of the plane (or who have boarding priority), who put their extra shit above your seat and then move back to theirs. They fuck it up for everyone.

And anyone who puts their coat in the overheard before everyone has been seated, should be shot on the tarmac.

TM

Great idea. Really great idea.

I use the overhead for two things: my personal bag and my coat. I check everything else (and I keep a smaller "necessities" bag in the personal bag for the stuff I always use on the flight, like headphones, and take that out when I put the bag up there).

If I had my own space it would only be half-full, but I wouldn't have to listen to douchebags who have pushed the maximum carry-on limits whine about putting my coat or personal bag up there.

By the way, if it's a full flight, I'll be flexible with the little bit of shit I carry on, unlike the person standing over me ramming my little computer bag over and over with some massive "carry on" that doesn't fit.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wrong. This would be something that would be largely self-policed. And anything in an overheard compartment of an unassigned seat would be checked.

Me to flight attendant: "This isn't mine, but it was in my space."

Flight attendant to everyone already on board: "This bag will be checked. I'll give anyone on this plane one opportunity to claim it or you can wait for it at the carousel upon arrival."

One month of this and everyone follows the rule.

TM

Maybe. But I think you underestimate the extent to which airlines really, really don't want to suggest that there are bags on board that are not claimed by anyone.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

Maybe. But I think you underestimate the extent to which airlines really, really don't want to suggest that there are bags on board that are not claimed by anyone.

stp

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wrong. This would be something that would be largely self-policed. And anything in an overheard compartment of an unassigned seat would be checked.

Me to flight attendant: "This isn't mine, but it was in my space."

Flight attendant to everyone already on board: "This bag will be checked. I'll give anyone on this plane one opportunity to claim it or you can wait for it at the carousel upon arrival."

One month of this and everyone follows the rule.

TM

You're generous. I would tell them at the check-in and that's it.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

we had a flood. my normal carry on luggage was ruined. I had two smaller bags that together are smaller than my old carry on. getting everyone shit on the plane isn't about numbers. it's about volume. I'm like Douglas on LA Law, I can follow rules, but they have to make sense to me. there were plenty people using a big backpack as a second bag. if I had done that, and taken up WAY more room it would have been fine.

but I admitted the whole last half of the rant was me being spoiled.

A rule that says "2 bags" is a lot easier to administer than a rule that says "3000 cu. in, however configured"

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

FYI - I'm not TSA pre and I haven't taken any liquids out of my carry-on in years. Dopp kitt typically has shaving cream, face lotion, mouthwash, toothpaste and masturbating lotion. I forgot one time and got away with it, and then decided thereafter that I wasn't going to pull out the liquids unless forced to do so. I've never had security make me open my bag and take out the dopp kit. I fly about once or twice a month.

Same experience - although with precheck it's now irrelevant. Or they've now formally authorized my previous succesful practice.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Wrong. This would be something that would be largely self-policed. And anything in an overheard compartment of an unassigned seat would be checked.

Me to flight attendant: "This isn't mine, but it was in my space."

Flight attendant to everyone already on board: "This bag will be checked. I'll give anyone on this plane one opportunity to claim it or you can wait for it at the carousel upon arrival."

One month of this and everyone follows the rule.

TM

Hell, I've policed it. If there's a bag in the overhead in my unoccupied row - "does this belong to you?" is asked of people nearby. If not, it's in the aisle and the FA notified.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Hell, I've policed it. If there's a bag in the overhead in my unoccupied row - "does this belong to you?" is asked of people nearby. If not, it's in the aisle and the FA notified.

Please report any suspicious packages immediately.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

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