No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

[Hank Chinaski]

http://nothingcooler.com/2015/06/12/...leaning-susan/ pretty good remake

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

My limit on punk is two songs, unless it's the Clash. And that's all I'm going to say about that.

You should listen to more early punk, before the nihilistic garage bands Hank likes took it over.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

You should listen to more early punk, before the nihilistic garage bands Hank likes took it over.

Give five examples of early punk bands.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Give five examples of early punk bands.

This is a nerd fight and it is beneath you.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Give five examples of early punk bands.

PSG of course. Wayne County had to be among the funniest punks. Annie and the Shirts was a personal favorite. Suicide makes all the lists, but weren't really one of my favorites. Perre Ubu had a sort of what-are-you-doing-saturday-committing-suicide appeal. The best had to be Euphrates Volcano. 5 from the cobwebs. The only ones I've listened to in the last decade are PSG and Annie.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

This is a nerd fight and it is beneath you.

I just hope Hank gets his 5 in before Flower feeds him talking points.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

This is a nerd fight and it is beneath you.

I am not participating in the nerd fight -- I am genuinely interested.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I knew something about this post bothered me, I mean beyond the fact that it is fantasy, but let's assume it is true. GGG never lived in NY. That means he travelled to CBGB from whereever his school was, or Boston.

First rule of punk- kill your gods. No real punk would travel to NY to go to CBGB multiple times, anymore than em would travel following the Dead or going to see Journey. A real punker started/supported the movement where em lived. e.g. SLC Punk as an example. CBGB was not a cathedral as we worshipped nothing.

Hank Chinaski

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FWIW, Graham, whose American Hardcore creds are pretty good considering he grew up in Cleveland, followed the Dead for a summer in the 80s. ("Curiosity" being his reason for doing so.) He says none of his punk friends had any interest whatsoever in going with him.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

FWIW, Graham, whose American Hardcore creds are pretty good considering he grew up in Cleveland, followed the Dead for a summer in the 80s. ("Curiosity" being his reason for doing so.) He says none of his punk friends had any interest whatsoever in going with him.

Cleveland had a great scene actually. And traveling with the dead is a bit less problematic than driving hours dozens of times to go to CBGB.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Cleveland had a great scene actually. And traveling with the dead is a bit less problematic than driving hours dozens of times to go to CBGB.

Neither driving nor hours were involved.

It was just a place I hung out in back in the day.

But I'm glad you built up a thrilling punk scene in Grosse Pointe.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

PSG of course. Wayne County had to be among the funniest punks. Annie and the Shirts was a personal favorite. Suicide makes all the lists, but weren't really one of my favorites. Perre Ubu had a sort of what-are-you-doing-saturday-committing-suicide appeal. The best had to be Euphrates Volcano. 5 from the cobwebs. The only ones I've listened to in the last decade are PSG and Annie.

This conversation is only slightly less ridiculous than the punk rock bowling conversation I've been witnessing on facebook... (so here it is)

A few years ago I bowled in a punk rock bowling league (note: I am not now, and I have never been, into punk rock). I got into it because a friend of mine is friends with the woman who runs the league. As a result, I made some punk rock friends (with varying degrees of punk rock cred, but all of whom seem more punk rock than GGG now) and I'm still a member of their group page on facebook. There are leagues all around the west coast and they get together annually for a big tournament in Vegas.

This year a team from my old bowling league won the tournament in Vegas. But then the people running that tournament decided that the team had cheated and made a big stink on the tournament facebook page trying to embarrass these guys into giving the money back. Based on everything I've read, it is not clear to me that the team intended to cheat, but according to the PRB tourney organizers, the team captain sent an inquiry about submitting a team with one really good bowler, one pretty good bowler and two not good bowlers (avgs 201, 160, 120, 115). The league has a rule against professional or semi-pro bowlers bowling, so I think the team captain was just concerned about the 201 bowler. The people running the league said that team would be fine. But when the team was actually entered the averages were different -- it was the really good bowler (ave actually 198), two pretty good bowlers (168, 170) and one bad bowler (120). Now the people running the league are citing that old email to say the team cheated...

But the bigger story behind it is that the guys who won aren't really punk rock. These guys look like they would follow Nickelback. If these guys looked the part and were more into the punk rock festival that accompanies this bowling tournament, I don't think the people running the league would have any problem. So the whole thing has degenerated into exactly the same thing this argument has degenerated into. Who is punk rock enough. I think it might be kind of amusing to watch if it weren't so pathetic.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

This conversation is only slightly less ridiculous than the punk rock bowling conversation I've been witnessing on facebook... (so here it is)

A few years ago I bowled in a punk rock bowling league (note: I am not now, and I have never been, into punk rock). I got into it because a friend of mine is friends with the woman who runs the league. As a result, I made some punk rock friends (with varying degrees of punk rock cred, but all of whom seem more punk rock than GGG now) and I'm still a member of their group page on facebook. There are leagues all around the west coast and they get together annually for a big tournament in Vegas.

This year a team from my old bowling league won the tournament in Vegas. But then the people running that tournament decided that the team had cheated and made a big stink on the tournament facebook page trying to embarrass these guys into giving the money back. Based on everything I've read, it is not clear to me that the team intended to cheat, but according to the PRB tourney organizers, the team captain sent an inquiry about submitting a team with one really good bowler, one pretty good bowler and two not good bowlers (avgs 201, 160, 120, 115). The league has a rule against professional or semi-pro bowlers bowling, so I think the team captain was just concerned about the 201 bowler. The people running the league said that team would be fine. But when the team was actually entered the averages were different -- it was the really good bowler (ave actually 198), two pretty good bowlers (168, 170) and one bad bowler (120). Now the people running the league are citing that old email to say the team cheated...

But the bigger story behind it is that the guys who won aren't really punk rock. These guys look like they would follow Nickelback. If these guys looked the part and were more into the punk rock festival that accompanies this bowling tournament, I don't think the people running the league would have any problem. So the whole thing has degenerated into exactly the same thing this argument has degenerated into. Who is punk rock enough. I think it might be kind of amusing to watch if it weren't so pathetic.

"you're (GGG) not punk and I'm telling everyone;
save your breath I never was one."

Jawbreaker- Boxcar

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

This conversation is only slightly less ridiculous than the punk rock bowling conversation I've been witnessing on facebook... (so here it is)

A few years ago I bowled in a punk rock bowling league (note: I am not now, and I have never been, into punk rock). I got into it because a friend of mine is friends with the woman who runs the league. As a result, I made some punk rock friends (with varying degrees of punk rock cred, but all of whom seem more punk rock than GGG now) and I'm still a member of their group page on facebook. There are leagues all around the west coast and they get together annually for a big tournament in Vegas.

This year a team from my old bowling league won the tournament in Vegas. But then the people running that tournament decided that the team had cheated and made a big stink on the tournament facebook page trying to embarrass these guys into giving the money back. Based on everything I've read, it is not clear to me that the team intended to cheat, but according to the PRB tourney organizers, the team captain sent an inquiry about submitting a team with one really good bowler, one pretty good bowler and two not good bowlers (avgs 201, 160, 120, 115). The league has a rule against professional or semi-pro bowlers bowling, so I think the team captain was just concerned about the 201 bowler. The people running the league said that team would be fine. But when the team was actually entered the averages were different -- it was the really good bowler (ave actually 198), two pretty good bowlers (168, 170) and one bad bowler (120). Now the people running the league are citing that old email to say the team cheated...

But the bigger story behind it is that the guys who won aren't really punk rock. These guys look like they would follow Nickelback. If these guys looked the part and were more into the punk rock festival that accompanies this bowling tournament, I don't think the people running the league would have any problem. So the whole thing has degenerated into exactly the same thing this argument has degenerated into. Who is punk rock enough. I think it might be kind of amusing to watch if it weren't so pathetic.

I just want to make it clear that my pathetic argument has nothing to do with how punk rock I am today. My fb classical music spams will drive that point home for anyone missing the point.

Still, punk bowling sounds fun. Let me know if a Boston area team needs a bad bowler.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

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TM

[Replaced_Texan]

Speaking of storied clubs, the venue that has been called "Houston's CBGBs" (by Houstonians that probably never went to CBGBs, but it's still legendary by local standards), is undergoing a bit of an identity crisis right now. The kids are calling it "Hashtag squared," and they apparently really think that's its name.

This is their sign.



And this is their facebook page.