I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Hey, Sebby, what's a word for a dog-whistle that can be heard by dogs, cats, and Helen Keller? How about "traditional American"? Can you hear that one? (spree: CNN video)

Sebastian, before you respond with your typical contorted anti-logic in an attempt to rationalize this racist piece of shit and his racist piece of shit spokespeople, I'll let you know that some of the other acts are an Irish River Dancer and a child opera singer, neither of which are "traditionally American" in the LITERAL FUCKING SENSE OF THE WORDS. O.K., Sebastian, have at it. I'm actually looking forward to this one.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Mexico is a great, diverse and fascinating country. This would kind of like a Mexican saying they had been in the US because they crossed over to San Diego, or had a layover in the Detroit airport.

Border towns are too dangerous to go to from south Texas these days. I'm headed to the Valley next month. We used to go across all the time. Now it's highly discouraged.

I've only been to TJ once in college for about three hours, and we went to some fairly awful places. But we were dumb college kids looking to drink and dance. It certainly wasn't an experience I'd want to repeat, but I don't really want to repeat 19 either.

Recently, I went to Mexico for a friend's birthday party, and I cannot recommend Sayulita highly enough. It's a sleepy surf town about 45 minutes north of Puerto Vallarta, and it's lovely. We were there over Halloween weekend, and we got to participate in some of the Day of the Dead festivities. The town doesn't feel at all like a resort town. There's maybe two or three hotels, but most of the accommodation is through rentals of houses. We'd walk all over the place at all hours and never felt unsafe in the slightest. Since Southwest now flies to Mexico, I can see it being a fairly regular jaunt for me going forward. I really loved it.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Hey, Sebby, what's a word for a dog-whistle that can be heard by dogs, cats, and Helen Keller? How about "traditional American"? Can you hear that one? (spree: CNN video)

How hard is it to say "Kanye is batshit crazy and totally uncontrollable and it's just as likely for him to go off in a 40 minute rant as it is for him to stay on message so there's no fucking way we're letting him anywhere near there."?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

It was probably 25 years ago now, but we drove across the border, down one street and then turned back and drove back.

These days I'd probably be a bit more adventurous, but at the time we didn't find any appeal.

My one trip to Iowa was like this, back in my Jesse Jackson days. We drove out from Chicago, stopped at the John Deere Museum and Ronald Reagan's boyhood home, and had dinner in Iowa with some fun locals looking back out across the Mississippi at Illinois and watching purple martins flocking over the river feeding on swarms of bugs.

But we saw a fine part of Iowa, had a perfectly fine meal, and enjoyed some good company.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

Border towns are too dangerous to go to from south Texas these days. I'm headed to the Valley next month. We used to go across all the time. Now it's highly discouraged.

I've only been to TJ once in college for about three hours, and we went to some fairly awful places. But we were dumb college kids looking to drink and dance. It certainly wasn't an experience I'd want to repeat, but I don't really want to repeat 19 either.

Recently, I went to Mexico for a friend's birthday party, and I cannot recommend Sayulita highly enough. It's a sleepy surf town about 45 minutes north of Puerto Vallarta, and it's lovely. We were there over Halloween weekend, and we got to participate in some of the Day of the Dead festivities. The town doesn't feel at all like a resort town. There's maybe two or three hotels, but most of the accommodation is through rentals of houses. We'd walk all over the place at all hours and never felt unsafe in the slightest. Since Southwest now flies to Mexico, I can see it being a fairly regular jaunt for me going forward. I really loved it.

See, now that sounds like a good trip if you're going to see one place in Mexico and put it on the list.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

My one trip to Iowa was like this, back in my Jesse Jackson days.

You made a wise decision, especially if you approached Iowa from the north. I learned on a single swing for the Gore campaign that there are more pleasant parts of Iowa (like where you were), but the western half of the state not so much.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

How hard is it to say "Kanye is batshit crazy and totally uncontrollable and it's just as likely for him to go off in a 40 minute rant as it is for him to stay on message so there's no fucking way we're letting him anywhere near there."?

How hard is it for him to say, "we're going to look into the Russian thing and take care of it, because foreign tampering with our elections is unacceptable?"

Apparently too hard because he and his team prefer to look like they're racists or up to something.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

How hard is it to say "Kanye is batshit crazy and totally uncontrollable and it's just as likely for him to go off in a 40 minute rant as it is for him to stay on message so there's no fucking way we're letting him anywhere near there."?

Bingo. Make a joke about it "Mr. Trump loves Kanye, but he doesn't want to get Taylor Swift-ed at the innaugeration. Heh-heh."

But that would suggest that Kanye's unpredictability is the reason, not the fact that he's a scary black rap artist who said mean things about racism to President GW Bush after Katrina.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Bingo. Make a joke about it "Mr. Trump loves Kanye, but he doesn't want to get Taylor Swift-ed at the innaugeration. Heh-heh."

But that would suggest that Kanye's unpredictability is the reason, not the fact that he's a scary black rap artist who said mean things about racism to President GW Bush after Katrina.

Wait, so you think attacking minorities plays to his base?!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

You made a wise decision, especially if you approached Iowa from the north. I learned on a single swing for the Gore campaign that there are more pleasant parts of Iowa (like where you were), but the western half of the state not so much.

It was an exotic place, and I'm glad I had that one experience.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Hey, Sebby, what's a word for a dog-whistle that can be heard by dogs, cats, and Helen Keller? How about "traditional American"? Can you hear that one? (spree: CNN video)

"He considers himself a friend of the President [Elect]."

These dudes aren't even trying.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Hey, Sebby, what's a word for a dog-whistle that can be heard by dogs, cats, and Helen Keller? How about "traditional American"? Can you hear that one? (spree: CNN video)

I don't usually post multiple responses to the same post, but wanted to provide this video. I'd actually be impressed if PLF knows The Goats. I wouldn't be surprised, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_F2FDpU1mM

TM

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

This case appears to be the reason.

But again, not my area, so if any of you actually know anything about the area, weigh in. Though it appears that no one here does.

I used to know an awful lot about the application of the Equal Protection Clause to non-citizens, but I haven't used those muscles in many years. Speaking at a high level, there is doctrine that constitutional rights don't apply, or don't apply in nearly the same way, at the border, and thus that law enforcement gets to do all sorts of things in deciding who comes into the country that it would not otherwise.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I don't usually post multiple responses to the same post, but wanted to provide this video. I'd actually be impressed if PLF knows The Goats. I wouldn't be surprised, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_F2FDpU1mM

TM

You didn't want to get anything done today, did you?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Hey, Sebby, what's a word for a dog-whistle that can be heard by dogs, cats, and Helen Keller? How about "traditional American"? Can you hear that one? (spree: CNN video)

West has a legitimate reason to be pissed, and say something incendiary here.

He didn't need one to do so in the past, but now that he has one, I hope he nails it.

That is a really fucked up statement. There's no other way to take that than exactly as it appears.