Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Seriously? WTF is wrong with you? Scooter Libby leaked Valerie Plame's identity for political reasons. He made a conscious decision to burn her.

Armitage. I know Google is a rival, but try it sometime.

Hillary did no such thing. She may have been stupid or reckless...

You remember law school, right? When they taught you that certain offences had nothing to do with actual intent.

...but she at least facially complied with (stupid) rules about handling email.

I should just stop here.

Again: Libby intentionally burned someone

[rolling my eyes]

Clinton did not....

It is still something of a question whether they burned the body of Ambassador Stephens after they repeated raped and killed him, so "burned" is truly up for debate.

If you think that Libby should not have been prosecuted...

uh...he went to jail

what's the rationale for wasting any more brain cells on what Clinton did? Do you really think that what she did was any worse than the federal handling of non-public information like the PII of myself and many other ex-federal employees, which was hacked by the Chinese?

Fucking disgusting. "People lie cheat and steal all the time, so what"

We always could agree to disagree, but you used to have some principles.

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[SlaveNoMore]

When Hillary also loses South Carolina, who become the DNC front-runner - Biden or Bloomberg?

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[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Armitage. I know Google is a rival, but try it sometime.



You remember law school, right? When they taught you that certain offences had nothing to do with actual intent.



I should just stop here.



[rolling my eyes]



It is still something of a question whether they burned the body of Ambassador Stephens after they repeated raped and killed him, so "burned" is truly up for debate.



uh...he went to jail



Fucking disgusting. "People lie cheat and steal all the time, so what"

We always could agree to disagree, but you used to have some principles.

SlaveNo(wow)More

I literally don't understand any of your post until the end. What are you trying to say?

"People lie cheat and steal all the time, so what?" If I understand correctly -- and I may not -- Hillary's decision to keep e-mail on a server at her house actually complied with the applicable regulations. Those regulations are doubtless stupid, because as a former federal employee I can tell you that the federal regulations governing the maintenance of things like email are both useless and hopelessly overprotective. Chinese hackers have stolen my information from the federal government. Anyone who is all agitated about what Hillary did with her email who also doesn't give a shit that Chinese hackers have information about me stolen from federal computers can blow me. And, frankly, that seems to be all of them. The outrage about Hillary's email is 100% selective.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I literally don't understand any of your post until the end. What are you trying to say?

"People lie cheat and steal all the time, so what?" If I understand correctly -- and I may not -- Hillary's decision to keep e-mail on a server at her house actually complied with the applicable regulations. Those regulations are doubtless stupid, because as a former federal employee I can tell you that the federal regulations governing the maintenance of things like email are both useless and hopelessly overprotective. Chinese hackers have stolen my information from the federal government. Anyone who is all agitated about what Hillary did with her email who also doesn't give a shit that Chinese hackers have information about me stolen from federal computers can blow me. And, frankly, that seems to be all of them. The outrage about Hillary's email is 100% selective.

You're doing it wrong. All reasoning starts with "Hillary is evil" and goes from there. Or so seems to be the reasoning of the Bernie Bros.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Anyone who is all agitated about what Hillary did with her email who also doesn't give a shit that Chinese hackers have information about me stolen from federal computers can blow me.

But not in Michigan. WTF is up with that?

Perhaps this is something to discuss on the Fashion Board.

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally Posted by Adder

You're doing it wrong. All reasoning starts with "Hillary is evil" and goes from there. Or so seems to be the reasoning of the Bernie Bros.

Did you just call me a "Bernie Bro"?

Are you new around here?

SlaveNo(Socialist)

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

It's like I don't even exist. It's like I never existed. What the fuck kind of big brother bullshit is this? Good luck with your war on Eurasia.

We all know you're with The Rents Too Damn High.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Did you just call me a "Bernie Bro"?

No. But you have something in common with them.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Sidd Finch

But not in Michigan.

Something else happened here?

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally Posted by Adder

No. But you have something in common with them.

Really? We all love a good pastrami sandwich with a Dr. Brown's black cherry soda?

[Who doesn't, for that matter?]

And BTW, that term is sexist, offensive, and a dog whistle for the anti-semites.
You should put up a "trigger warning" next time you use it.

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[Adder]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

sexist

This word does not mean what you think it does, Bro.

[SlaveNoMore]

Originally Posted by Adder

This word does not mean what you think it does, Bro.

There are two sexes, last time I checked.

[Then again, there may actually be 130 and counting http://ageofshitlords.com/list-of-al...enders-so-far]

Would you prefer [my preferred term] "Misandrist"?

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[Hank Chinaski]

Okay, so here's this: I tried to talk about a Flint water issue with my ultra lib uncle Sunday. It did not go well.

My point was this- fry anyone who ignored or hid a problem- fine. If the legion's deaths can be tied to the water switch, and the decisions otherwise meet the requirements of a crime- pros-EY-cute!!!

But for decades people drank water from those lead pipes, not just in Flint but everywhere and not everyone is brain damaged- (adder is the exception that proves the rule and sidd's anger could be from some other cause).

I explained to my unk that it bothered me that the hype keeps saying kids have been brain damaged when that is not true. Of course there are lead levels that have been set that were ignored. I'm not trying to excuse that, but to say the children are now brain damaged seems too sad.

Roger and Me came out a long while ago. It accurately shows how fucked up it is to be born in Flint- decades ago. Those kids have challenges that will prove too much for most. Why write stories saying they have been brain damaged when that is simple hype.

Again, the standards for lead were set- any one that tried to hide the levels were not met" Fry them, but don't further discourage kids that have this impossible road anyway.

Any hints on how I can make this point w/o getting attacked for defending the cover up?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Okay, so here's this: I tried to talk about a Flint water issue with my ultra lib uncle Sunday. It did not go well.

My point was this- fry anyone who ignored or hid a problem- fine. If the legion's deaths can be tied to the water switch, and the decisions otherwise meet the requirements of a crime- pros-EY-cute!!!

But for decades people drank water from those lead pipes, not just in Flint but everywhere and not everyone is brain damaged- (adder is the exception that proves the rule and sidd's anger could be from some other cause).

I explained to my unk that it bothered me that the hype keeps saying kids have been brain damaged when that is not true. Of course there are lead levels that have been set that were ignored. I'm not trying to excuse that, but to say the children are now brain damaged seems too sad.

Roger and Me came out a long while ago. It accurately shows how fucked up it is to be born in Flint- decades ago. Those kids have challenges that will prove too much for most. Why write stories saying they have been brain damaged when that is simple hype.

Again, the standards for lead were set- any one that tried to hide the levels were not met" Fry them, but don't further discourage kids that have this impossible road anyway.

Any hints on how I can make this point w/o getting attacked for defending the cover up?

I thought that the problem was not just with the pipes, but also with water that caused lead from the pipes to leach into the water. I.e., water flowing through those pipes from another source would not have the same toxicity.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I thought that the problem was not just with the pipes, but also with water that caused lead from the pipes to leach into the water. I.e., water flowing through those pipes from another source would not have the same toxicity.

It goes like this: Flint got its water from Detroit water company. Most of SE Mi does but Flint is a long way away. Another water supply company started to be built from Lake Huron. It would be cheaper but a few years off. I believe Flint committed to it, Detroit said fine then you are off ours. While Detroit did continue to offer new contracts maybe they required a committment away from the new supply? Anyway they decided to switch to the Flint River until the new supply could get going.

I've never seen the Flint River but it can't be good. And like editorials up here are saying if you can't get decent water in Michigan, then WTF?

The Flint River water had fecal bacteria so they shot chlorine into it. Except if you do that you need to put an anti-corrosive material in it, which they did not. How can all that be in drinking water?

Anyway the chlorine ate into the pipes leaching lead. It was ignored, or hidden, for some time. Eventually the decision was made to switch back to Detroit water but the pipes are compromised now so it doesn't matter.

That is sort of what happened I think.