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Old 03-16-2016, 01:11 PM   #3991
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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

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I am doing a bit of Wonking, but I can say without a hint of hyperbole that every single straight white middle-aged man who is a supporter of Hillary, with whom I interact in any manner, posts to this board.

I find no shortage of things for which to legitimately criticize Obama, but failure to single-handedly reform the criminal justice system isn't one of them. [I even secretly applaud him pardoning Demaryius Thomas' mother.]

Saturday was good for NeverTrump. Yesterday was not. I put odds at 80% Trump gets a majority of delegates and 18% for his failing to get the majority and a contested convention, and 2% for a Cruz win. I admit I may be biased in terms of Cruz success.

I am formally withdrawing my hasty pledge to vote for Hillary if Trump wins . I can't vote for her based on her position on abortion. I am awaiting Gary Johnson to pull out the Libertarian nomination. I lived in NM when he was elected governor (and while I don't recall exactly, I am pretty certain he was the first person I ever voted for as Governor). I am pretty sure my vote won't matter anyway and I fully expect Texas to go Trump by a decent margin. I don't see Hillary running all that close in Texas, particularly after all of the money that came in to support Wendy Davis, and the R margin of victory, and the lack of enthusiasm for Hillary generally
I predict you, and several others here, will slowly overcome your aversion to The Donald as the election approaches. It is part of how the Rs have gotten into this spot, the primary forces them to a crazier and crazier zone, and as the general election campaign progresses the crazy gets accepted as the norm.
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:15 PM   #3992
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It's kind of quaint that you think this is still a thing.

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Old 03-16-2016, 01:33 PM   #3993
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This does not strike me as "careful" lawyering. In fact, it sound like the attorneys on the Trump legal team are as good at law-type stuff as Trump is at business-type stuff.
When he is elected, he will be, without a doubt, the healthiest dictator ever to hold elected office in this country.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:03 PM   #3994
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You're saying this now? There are lots of those people, but they don't matter much in the GOP.
They don't matter at all in the GOP, but I wasn't limiting my comments to the GOP. And inevitably (soon), everyone will have to deal with crim justice reform because, as I noted, the militarization of our police and the mass jailings-for-profit are not going to stop with minorities. White America never does shit until something is almost beyond fixing, but in case you haven't noticed, the economic conditions that cause people to wind up victims of the system are only becoming more widespread.

You think the jailing-for-dollars/cops-should-have-tanks crowd doesn't have a business model for wringing dollars out of those suburban whites in the "heroin nod" TM referred to in his last post? White families with drug addict kids in the suburbs are a profit center they're salivating over a chance to exploit. The courts and cops get money for the processing and forfeitures. The drug treatment centers get huge state contracts to deliver substandard services. The jails for white kids have to be really nice, so the contractors and operators get major paydays. Oh, and the vendors (food, internet, phone, all tricked out to satisfy the community's need to be "tough" with junior, but not lock him in a facility too unlike a college dorm) cash out... Everybody in the chain gets to feast on dollars from middle class to affluent whites both directly and via tax transfers.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:37 PM   #3995
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Get rid of this guy. Bye, bye, GGG, time to go home to mommy, you pathetic little rodent. Man, he just makes me want to crack him right in the face with a baseball bat. Except I am against violence. Be careful when you're taking him out. I don't like violence, but let's just say if he were to have a little accident on the way out, you won't have to worry about paying a lawyer to defend you.
If you try to disenfranchise me, I think bad things will happen, I really do. You could have riots.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:58 PM   #3996
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Sure, it's a kamikaze mission. But it starts the discussion.
I think, better than anything else, these two sentences succinctly summarize the flaws in your political ramblings. A person on a kamikaze mission is trying to stop the discussion, not start it.
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Old 03-16-2016, 02:59 PM   #3997
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They don't matter at all in the GOP, but I wasn't limiting my comments to the GOP.
I know. But you need GOP politicians to go along with your plan. Why would they do that when racism is a big deal to their voter base?

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I don't know why you think so. American history doesn't suggest that's the case. And do you think the forces that are motivated by profit aren't smart enough to realize that the gravy train ends when you start doing that stuff to people like Ty's kids?

I think you're really discounting how big a factor racism is in all of this.
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In our system of government, Republican legislators have to be particularly worried about a primary challenge from a more conservative Republican in even years.
My point was that republican reps have moved from caution in election years to flat out lunacy all the time. I was joking with you.

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I think, better than anything else, these two sentences succinctly summarize the flaws in your political ramblings. A person on a kamikaze mission is trying to stop the discussion, not start it.
On the upside, the Pandora Billy Bragg and Wilco station just gave me Woody Guthrie's (via Mermaid Avenue) Christ for President.

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Old 03-16-2016, 04:23 PM   #4000
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On the upside, the Pandora Billy Bragg and Wilco station just gave me Woody Guthrie's (via Mermaid Avenue) Christ for President.

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There is a "Billy Bragg and Wilco" station on Pandora?
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:28 PM   #4001
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There is a "Billy Bragg and Wilco" station on Pandora?
And it never, ever plays any Blowjob Camels.
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And it never, ever plays any Blowjob Camels.
I made an Alkaline Trio channel and would militantly stop songs I didn't like quickly. It got me to my fave band, Jawbreaker, so I do appreciate that the algorithm works. But after I kept trying to find new bands, ever hopeful, and dismissing quickly anything I didn't like. Then Pandora decided I would like a gay-metal hardcore band whose song started with "Fuck me up my ass hard!"

You all know I am not homophobic. Of course I am not a power bottom, but still the thing that bothered me most was it thought I liked metal?
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Old 03-16-2016, 04:46 PM   #4003
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And it never, ever plays any Blowjob Camels.
It does occasionally play something from the Attican Bedshitters, though. But only the newer crappy major-label stuff released after they sold out.
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There is a "Billy Bragg and Wilco" station on Pandora?
Yup. It would amuse me if they had that but not separate ones for each of them.
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