Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
2) Apparently, I am the only person that finds it amusing that Bush spent more years in active Service than Kerry spent months

Yes, and I deal daily with fucktards who've been lawyers for longer than you've been alive.

Where is the Slave who would have torn a new asshole into logic as flawed as this?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
And, his "plans"? Things like "I will work to make health care affordable for all", and "I will create jobs". Controversial shit. I understand he has an entire page speaking of his love for puppies.

There's this thing called "TV" that showed a five day puppy montage live from New York. Five out of five people who love puppies agree: It was AWESOME!

Meanwhile, your ability to think critically is approaching the nearest asymptote at alarming speed.

[Not Me]

yawn.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Meanwhile, your ability to think critically is approaching the nearest asymptote at alarming speed.

A. My understanding of that concept is that it includes the upper limits as well as the lower limits, so I will be charitable to you and simply say thanks.

B. A proposal to make health care affordable by simply passing on to the taxpayer the top $250k of risk for each account, without a plan to pay for it except "from taxes", is simplistic, incredibly expensive, incomplete, has absolutely no chance of passage, and won't even deliver as he vaguely promises. ("Up to" $1k?) And, the little part mandating that employers provide insurance, or steps will be taken? If this is what I need to consider as a serious position, then Kerry has indeed lowered the bar. He should stick to puppies. At least they don't eat each other.

(ETA) - Good lord. His proposal now also includes a brand new governmental agency - a "Department of Wellness". This is good, because we all know that government is well suited to running our personal lives, and at low cost, too.

I wanna be Minister of Carbs. I bet red wine gets a whole division by itself.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by bilmore

(I probably shouldn't say that, as I am stuck at my guess of 64% probability of a Kerry win.)

Well, if you're stuck there, you've a bag of marbles between your ears. Have you been in a cave on Mars for the past month? Kerry's listing at 70 degrees.

I don't follow all the polls because, well, for every one I find stating that 70% of unmarried women who drive vans like Kerry, I can find anothere where three guys from Vermont called 67 people in Akron and discovered that Bush is leading by 20%. Statistics are crap ina race this close. But nevermind me, counselor... please, refer to your "expert" reports. I have yet to see an "expert" proven wrong on the stand. That. Never. Happens. People who put together stats, well, heck, that's evidence, and evidence trumps independent thinking every time.

But I digress... A horse race this close is decided by organization of message. If you stay on topic and drive one, maybe two, solid points home, you'll beat the guy who using a shotgun approach everytime. Bush is nailing Kerry to the cross on terrorism defense and Kerry's lack of a unifying message. He's telling the jury "This guy stands for nothing more than getting elected" and Kerry is throwing whiffle balls at Bush in response. Kerry's all over the place, changing his message from week to week. One week, he's refusing to attack Bush. The next week he's calling Bush all but a deserter. One week he's a Vietnam hero - the next week Vietnam is "in the past" and its Bush's fault that the topic was ever raised. Kerry needs to adopt Reagan's old theme - "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"* And he needs to beat that theme into the heads of everyone. Otherwise, he's Gore 2004.

Personally, I think the man's inability to take a stand is terminal. His senate survival skills have made him so afraid of risk that he can't do anything without hedging his bets. Hedgers may be smart, but they're not the sort of folks who endear themselves to voters.

I view Bush winning this thing by a thin margin, and its really criminal of the Dems to let that happen. They offered up a corpse this time thinking they never had a chance, and they did. That's what you get when you make decisions exclusively on polls and stats - you're always smarter by half.

* This advice is borrowed from a column by someone I can't recall. If anyone can recall it, its worth posting. It was really enlightening.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
A. My understanding of that concept is that it includes the upper limits as well as the lower limits, so I will be charitable to you and simply say thanks.

Nice try, but I said "nearest asymptote." Words have meaning, Bilmore. Regards!

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Nice try, but I said "nearest asymptote." Words have meaning, Bilmore. Regards!

I tried to find an illustration to show that a circle has an upper portion, too, but all I could find was this Kerry bumper sticker:

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Kerry's all over the place, changing his message from week to week.

Atticus assures me this is not true.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by bilmore
Atticus assures me this is not true.

Like Willard said to Kurtz, "I... see... no... [message]... at all."

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by bilmore
Oh, yeah, I forgot.

He's against gun control. Unless it's good gun control. Then he's for it, except if someone might write about it in the news. Then he's a hunter. Who shoots shotguns without plugs or glasses. (No wonder he thinks guns are unsafe.)

Oh, yeah, and he supports making teachers accountable. But, only to themselves, really. Unless he's speaking to the NEA, where he doesn't think teachers should have to justify themselves even to themselves. But we should institute merit pay. But no one should be looking to evaluate teachers already tenured.

And taxes - he's gonna make those rich bastards pay their fair share. But only the rich - no one who makes less than, say, $10,000 will see an increase in their taxes.

I didn't say you had to like his positions. It's just refreshing to see you posting something about Kerry other than obssessing about his war record.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
I bet Kerry could kick Cheney's ass though Bush would be tougher. It's always tough fighting a retard.

Lindsay Lohan says you have to be nice to retards, or they'll yell at you instead of saying nice things about your boobs.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I meant the Swiftees v. the Kerreys

Oh, well. It's not like there are plenty of people lining up to either support/refute either side of that debate. I stand corrected.

[sgtclub]

I find this amusing - the Washing Times has been harping on this for about a week now.

DES MOINES, Iowa — Today marks the one-month point since Sen. John Kerry last answered questions from reporters traveling with him on the campaign trail.

The last time the Democratic presidential nominee took questions from them was Aug. 9 on the edge of the Grand Canyon, when the small traveling press pool accompanying him was allowed to ask eight questions.

And the last time Mr. Kerry held a full-fledged press conference where he faced questions from the entire corps of national reporters covering his campaign was Aug. 2 in Grand Rapids, Mich. He took two questions then.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Oh, well. It's not like there are plenty of people lining up to either support/refute either side of that debate. I stand corrected.

What are you talking about?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sgtclub
What are you talking about?

It gets pretty confusing when he ketches up backwards. Pretty soon he'll be posting about Bush stealing the 2000 election.