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[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Elin offered $5MM now, $55M in two years, staggering up to $80MM.

How does that compare to Katie Holmes deal with Tom Cruise?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

How does that compare to Katie Holmes deal with Tom Cruise?

well, one difference is that Katie doesn't have to put up with Tom fucking women, even her.

[cheval de frise]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

here's the thing- I always give great advice and every bim here knows that BUT when semi-retards like Sidd and you and 3457 "2" me then Abba has to question the wisdom of what I told her. You're a net negative when you do this. think. about. it.

"Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonight?"

"The same thing we do every night, Pinky--try to take over the world!"*

CDF

*(Confidential to Hank: you're not supposed to play both parts. Particularly if you insist on cc'ing the board.)

[cheval de frise]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

[true story] I read the entire story thinking that Penske was for sure going to end the night having the sex with the cockblocking angry newlywed wife. I was very disappointed. [/true story]

We'll always have Hawaii. And the cairn marking his manhood.

CDF

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by ironweed

Yes, and the kids will have great material for their first books.

I've always blamed my inability to write the great American novel on my parents' long and happy marriage. Do you know how hard it is to have to go out and collect all of your own traumas? By the time you're done, you don't even feel like writing about it anymore because you're old and busted like Thurgreed.

At least I don't live in frickin' Jersey.

TM

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

here's the thing- I always give great advice and every bim here knows that BUT when semi-retards like Sidd and you and 3457 "2" me then Abba has to question the wisdom of what I told her. You're a net negative when you do this. think. about. it.

In fairness, I give you credit for sticking with your wife despite her thing with me, and your forced celibacy and having to suppourt my biological kids yada yada yada.

Ybff,

P

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by dtb

Interesting...

My stepdaughter's mother walked out and moved away (a four-hour drive) to go shack up with her boyfriend when my stepdaughter was five years old. She has recently made more of an effort to be part of her daughter's life (more than zero, that is), but she feeds her a load of BS about why she (the mother) left. Even my stepdaughter doesn't believe it. She says things to me like, "But that CAN'T be the real reason, because x,y,z." And she's quite right. The story is full of holes, even to a second-grader.

So, how honest should I be about her mother's departure? My husband leans toward being more rather than less honest (if she asks), but he's not sure either. I think he'd rather leave it to me.

I don't want to "tattle" on her mom, but I don't want to lie for her mom either.

The last time my stepdaughter said, "I just don't believe that's true" I just said, "I think you're right to be a little suspicious about that -- I don't believe that either."

Such a minefield.

Are you fucking crazy? That is your husband's responsibility. All questions should be referred directly to him. You answer with a modified lie or the truth and she won't want to look at you at all when she finds out you lied or hears the truth. Tell your husband to grow some and handle it.

TM

[robustpuppy]

Originally Posted by dtb

So far, I have just said things that are true without spilling everything (which I don't plan to do). I have said stuff like, "I think maybe your mother isn't ready to tell you the real reason, but someday she probably will" and things of that nature. I don't feel right covering for her mother, but I realize that doesn't mean I need to make full disclosure -- though my SD asks a lot of questions, which will only get more pointed as time goes on.

She will find out eventually, and I don't want her to think I was in on the lie. The dynamic had always been to pretend nothing was wrong with a woman walking out on her kids and her life, and that there was nothing unusual about that. But of course my SD knows and feels that it isn't normal and I think she's relieved to have someone to talk about it with. Her parents just change the subject. My view is when she's ready to hear the answer, she will ask a direct question.

What a heartbreaker. Your position is so incredibly fraught. This girl really needs you and yet your relationship is, naturally, the most tenuous. Have you and your husband gotten any professional advice on this? Obviously you need to build trust so that when she is old enough to face the extremely painful fact that she can't completely trust her own mother (good god), she knows that it is not the norm, and that it's not because of her. But I wouldn't know for sure how to do that, first, because the situation is so hard for me to understand (having always had total faith in my mother), and second, because I'm not up on all the details of the emotional development of 2nd grade girls.



And ABBA, if you think this story is sad, think about your own daughter's story. What do you want it to be? What do you want yours to be?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by ABBAKiss

Unfortunately, I do still hate-fuck him pretty regularly.

Why am I wasting advice on you? You're stone-cold crazy.

TM

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

[true story] I read the entire story thinking that Penske was for sure going to end the night having the sex with the cockblocking angry newlywed wife. I was very disappointed. [/true story]

[this my true confession] In order to maintain credulity amongst the h8ers here, I left out the ending part where the newlywed husband and I tagged team my first wife's college friend, if that makes mitigates your disappointednessment. Also, first wife's college friend is a TV personality now. [this is my true confession]

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Why am I wasting advice on you? You're stone-cold crazy.

TM

Because you still dream of cheating with her someday?

[cheval de frise]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Elin offered $5MM now, $55M in two years, staggering up to $80MM.

Who says romance is dead?

CDF

(p.s. is there a clause about resumption of marital relations? If not, what's the over/under on the next time Tiger gets laid? (by anyone))

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by ABBAKiss

I am terrified of being a single mother. My daughter is great, and I love her, but I have no interest in being a single mother. None. I am so fucking livid that I am. I am doing the best I can, but I do not want to be a mom on my own, and I cannot be with him, so I am fucking trapped.

I did not want kids. He talked me into it. I still do not want kids.

(Here I go again.) You are trapped. That said, you clearly love your daughter. So, stop fucking the guy, find a new guy who treats you right and make the best of your situation. Hate-fucking your douchebag contributes to him act as crazy as he does. You are sending mixed messages and you're digging yourself a huge hole and wasting your own time.

TM

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by PresentTense Pirate Penske

[this my true confession] In order to maintain credulity amongst the h8ers here, I left out the ending part where the newly husband and I tagged team my first wife's college friend, if that makes mitigates your disappointednessment. Also, first wife's college friend is a TV personality now. [this is my true confession]

You did the MFM with Oprah?

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by cheval de frise

We'll always have Hawaii. And the cairn marking his manhood.

CDF

[tears in my eyes] I sometimes wonder where those rocks are now.......[/tears in my eyes]