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01-20-2004, 02:46 PM
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
For all the shit NPR takes about being liberal, they give him the same courtesy they give all others --- they completely edit out his verbal tics, frequent aphasia, and other uncomfortable pauses during impromptu speeches (which you can't do on TV without it being visible).
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No they don't. Their position is that what the President has to say is a matter of record, and they do not make cuts from within NPR. Sometimes the clip will come to them already edited, but NPR doesn't touch anything a president has to say. They note that this has been an awkward policy under GW Bush. http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1523702
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01-20-2004, 02:51 PM
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
No they don't. Their position is that what the President has to say is a matter of record, and they do not make cuts from within NPR. Sometimes the clip will come to them already edited, but NPR doesn't touch anything a president has to say. They note that this has been an awkward policy under GW Bush. http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1523702
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I remember stories on NPR 10 years ago about how the world would die in 10 years because someone cut down a banana tree in the Amazon or some such shit.
Given that it is NPR policy that the world will be dead, how can it ask for money to broadcast in the future?
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01-20-2004, 02:51 PM
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Not Me
Ummm, could you 'splain that one, please?
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Watch one of the debates sometime and you will see what I mean.
Kucinich plays by the rules. He answers questions in a thoughtful and logical fashion. He actually answers the questions. If someone is scoring this debate, he wins, whether you agree with him or not.
But, of course, if you are scoring this election, he loses, whether you agree with him or not.
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01-20-2004, 02:54 PM
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silver plated, underrated
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Gattigap
That, and he's got the touch on the campaign trail in a way that neither Kerry nor Dean do. One of the quotes I heard last night was Carville's assessment that Edwards has the best speaking talent, and gives the best stump speeches, that he's ever seen (including Clinton).
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I saw a number of clips of Edwards speeches as I surfed around the news networks last night (after a friend of mine called and told me I *had* to see Dean's "performance"). I had written Edwards off early on when he kind of bored me during a debate, but last night I was impressed with what I heard of him and his message. It will at least make me seek out some more info on him, which is probably exactly what he needs at this point to keep his momentum going.
But Dean, wow. He looked like he had gone bonkers, esp when he was grinning maniacally while rolling up his sleeves and throwing things into the stands. It reminded me of the days back when I used to watch the WWF (back before them arrogant wildlife folks made them change the name to the WWE).
Hank I apologize for arguing his sanity with you all those weeks ago. But I reserve the right to re-change my mind. He may just have been tired from having to be semipolite to all those Iowans for so long.
Question: Do the Iowa caucuses typically coincide with MLK day? That seemed kind of odd to me, but I guess I haven't usually been paying much attention (esp since the Dem nomination hasn't been up for grabs since '92).
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01-20-2004, 02:58 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
No they don't. Their position is that what the President has to say is a matter of record, and they do not make cuts from within NPR. Sometimes the clip will come to them already edited, but NPR doesn't touch anything a president has to say. They note that this has been an awkward policy under GW Bush. http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1523702
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Policy or not, I call bullshit. I saw a clip of Bush on The Daily Show (alright, I admit it, that's the only television news show I watch) where Stewart made fun of his tentative way of answering a reporter's question, and the long uncomfortable pause before he came up with a two-penny word that was a slightly odd choice of words. The next morning, on NPR, I heard the exact same quotation without the pauses.
I wouldn't bet my kid's life on it, but I'm pretty sure what I heard had been changed. Maybe the WH press conference mics go through a press pool before the feed makes it to NPR.
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01-20-2004, 03:01 PM
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Question: Do the Iowa caucuses typically coincide with MLK day? That seemed kind of odd to me, but I guess I haven't usually been paying much attention (esp since the Dem nomination hasn't been up for grabs since '92).
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I had thought they tended to coincide with Presidents' day. Or something even later. Weren't the NH primaries usually in late February, until other states started trying to ass it out for first primary? And of course Iowa moved up accordingly as well.
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01-20-2004, 03:03 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Given that it is NPR policy that the world will be dead, how can it ask for money to broadcast in the future?
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Watch it. You're slapping food out of Pat Robertson's mouth.
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01-20-2004, 03:03 PM
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I remember stories on NPR 10 years ago about how the world would die in 10 years because someone cut down a banana tree in the Amazon or some such shit.
Given that it is NPR policy that the world will be dead, how can it ask for money to broadcast in the future?
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The anti-global-warming petition bilmore was talking about earlier says: "there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful." Given this, how can the people who sign it responsibly turn off their car engines, etc.?
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01-20-2004, 03:04 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Watch one of the debates sometime and you will see what I mean.
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I watched them, and I read your answer, but I think you win or lose a debate based on the substance of what you say, and what he has to say is as likely to win a debate as it is to win an election.
Not that this is relevant, but is it just me or does he look like he is a vulcan?
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01-20-2004, 03:07 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
The anti-global-warming petition bilmore was talking about earlier says: "there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful." Given this, how can the people who sign it responsibly turn off their car engines, etc.?
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I think they make up for turning off their car engines by exhaling more often.
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01-20-2004, 03:08 PM
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silver plated, underrated
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Policy or not, I call bullshit.
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First sgtclub, now NPR. Is anyone safe from the rage of Atticus?
(aside to AG: I lament the passing of your "Voted for Kodos" tagline. Good stuff, that.)
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01-20-2004, 03:09 PM
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Slow Pitch
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Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
The anti-global-warming petition bilmore was talking about earlier says: "there is good evidence that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide is environmentally helpful." Given this, how can the people who sign it responsibly turn off their car engines, etc.?
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Easy! Market forces, and security. Gas costs money, why waste it. Plus, you shouldn't leave a running car because it could get stolen. Worse, Ty, your kid could get in it and drive.
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01-20-2004, 03:19 PM
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Too Good For Post Numbers
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I remember stories on NPR 10 years ago about how the world would die in 10 years because someone cut down a banana tree in the Amazon or some such shit.
Given that it is NPR policy that the world will be dead, how can it ask for money to broadcast in the future?
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New study opines that global warming actually caused by hot air emanating from NPR.
(I love it when two threads come together.)
And, AG, I think you're just wishing mightily upon a star for those long pauses and whatnot. Scrappleface assures me that he is erudite and smooth, and Scrappleface is as believable as NPR.
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01-20-2004, 03:20 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
(aside to AG: I lament the passing of your "Voted for Kodos" tagline. Good stuff, that.)
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But amusing only to fellow Californians. And bitterly so.
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01-20-2004, 03:27 PM
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Moderator
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Anyone See Dean's Post-Defeat Speech?
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
But amusing only to fellow Californians. And bitterly so.
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something more than a simpsons reference?
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