Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
It was a particularly stupid thing to say. I hope it has minimal impact.

S_A_M

where was he at when he said it? was it at a student event?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
where was he at when he said it? was it at a student event?

I had understood that he was speaking to college students, but I could be wrong.

S_A_M

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I have no problem with that either. IF he wants to argue the war is bad because it requires stupid people to serve, he's free to make that pitch.

I don't think he thinks or meant to say that, and I don't think you do either.

eta: And just so we're clear that I'm not interested in defending Kerry, let me approvingly quote this:

• JK has once again demonstrated how his lack of verbal discipline can cause serious problems in a campaign. It may be best for Democrats to just toss him overboard and weather this storm.

"May" be? I wish he'd just go away. He brings nothing to the table.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't think he thinks or meant to say that, and I don't think you do either.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226584,00.html

and here's all that the Dems need to do to neutralize it:

• "Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said," Tennessee Democratic Senate hopeful Rep. Harold Ford Jr. said. "He needs to apologize to our troops," Ford said.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
2. good thing you got your education or you could be stuck in Iraq.

That's a horrible thing to say. I know scores of graduates from top universities who have volunteered to be infantrymen in Iraq. Doesn't everyone?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
BTW, what's a guy not on the ballot doing campaigning?

I don't know -- he's your President, why don't you ask?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,226584,00.html

and here's all that the Dems need to do to neutralize it:

• "Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said," Tennessee Democratic Senate hopeful Rep. Harold Ford Jr. said. "He needs to apologize to our troops," Ford said.

The admission-against-interest principle doesn't work for you here. Harold Ford is triangulating.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The admission-against-interest principle doesn't work for you here. Harold Ford is triangulating.

huh?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Do you have even 1% belief that that was what he meant?

Do you have even 1% belief that you can figure out what Kerry meant (on any subject) based on what he said?


Seriously, what do you think his point was? That the military is largely comprised, at least in the bottom ranks, of people who failed in the education system? (Or, viewed differently, of people who come from the poorest areas of the country, most under-served by the public education system?)*


How dare he suggest such a thing!?!


*For the record: This is all I can glean from the R rantings about this non-issue. I haven't seen what Kerry said and don't much care.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
That's a horrible thing to say. I know scores of graduates from top universities who have volunteered to be infantrymen in Iraq. Doesn't everyone?

you don't think they almost all have a HS diploma?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I don't think he thinks or meant to say that, and I don't think you do either.

eta: And just so we're clear that I'm not interested in defending Kerry, let me approvingly quote this:

• JK has once again demonstrated how his lack of verbal discipline can cause serious problems in a campaign. It may be best for Democrats to just toss him overboard and weather this storm.

"May" be? I wish he'd just go away. He brings nothing to the table.

A resounding "2". I'm sure Rove and crew will capitalize on this non-issue, but that's all that it is.

OTOH, the more times Rs mention Iraq, the better.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you don't think they almost all have a HS diploma?

Have you been reading the board the past few days? An HS diploma means there is a 50% chance they can read, or something like that (ask Spanky for details).

Given the economic background of the average military recruit, I would question whether they are at the level of the average HS graduate -- and that is a pretty low bar (again, ask Spanky for details).

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
huh?

I said that Kerry didn't mean the comments the way the GOP is claiming. You posted a link from FOX News -- oh, the irony -- quoting Harold Ford to show just how wrong I was. You were suggesting that since another Democrat was criticizing Kerry, he must have meant it. My point is that since Ford is running for Senate in a red state by trying to play off both sides -- what Dick Morris and Bill Clinton called, in a different context, triangulation -- his comments on the subject are about as probative as George W. Bush's.

I hope the country spends the next week talking about how kids without a lot of education are dying in Iraq. It beats talking about which party Harold Ford went to at the Super Bowl.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Here' a softball for the Rs:

Do you guys have anything positive you can say about what you've done the last six years?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Spanky
Thank you John Kerry. He has done more for the Republicans in this election than anyone else. If I were a Democrat I would want this guy drawn and quartered.

:bow:

I liked the nutjob comment. If it means Democrats stop being weenies, I'm all for it.