Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Come on. How do you talk about the evil of generalizations in one post and then write this in the very next?

Is it really true that everyone is jerking each other off about it? Maybe it's just more like 71%.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

This was actually the point I was making when I said "you are completely incapable of seeing facts that might undermine your scathing rebuttals of the ignorant, sheltered generalizations that nobody here is actually making."

Sometimes when I am on a corner and I see a bicyclist coming, I cross the street because I scared of you and do not want you to tell me to get off your corner and call me a ho. As is your wont.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Yes on the last question. I'm not insane.

I think Trump's dumb enough to step over plausible deniability. But I think the people colluding are sophisticated enough to have put failsafes in in place to avoid that.

The only way it gets to him is if Jared (who I understand from someone who's conversed with him on numerous occasions is actually dumber than we think) engaged Trump in a back and forth that brought him "into the loop."

How could you think anything was sophisticated on the Trump side? We already know that the Russians offered them dirt, Don, Jr said great, nearly the entire senior campaign staff met with the Russians in Trump tower, dirt was then forthcoming, and George P bragged about getting help from Russia. And we know that Trump was personally involved in drafting the statement covering all that up.

You think Don Jr is smart enough not to tell Dad until when? You don't think Bannon is probably right that Don Jr most likely walked to Russians to Dad?

I don't know if there's a crime i there before the coverup, but there was sure a lot of not good in seeking and accepting the help of a foreign government that a congress could conclude is close enough were it so inclined.

The weird part about this whole thing is what's publicly known is already enough to prove his denials false and probably impeach. What we're still working on is whether his interference in the investigation, also pretty much already publicly known, rises to the level of obstruction.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

No underlying crime by Trump himself.

I'll say it again: Putin would never directly collude with Trump. Trump is too stupid.

And I don't think collusion is a crime anyway.

Trump subordinates involved in crime? Sure. Of course.

Trump possibly involved in financial crime of some sort unrelated to Russiagate (but perhaps involving Russians and tax fraud of some kind)? Sure.

But yes, I do not think Trump himself engaged in any underlying crime he was seeking to cover up.

If Trump knew that people working for him were making efforts to get the Russians to help him win the election, and that the Russians might expect some consideration in return, do you think that would be a crime?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

No one gives a fuck about what you think.

There you go again with the incorrect overgeneralizations.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I specifically chose him because he's not smart enough. Either way, are you saying he can't find someone to do what he wants?

Not sure he can find someone who can get confirmed by the Senate to do that for him.

I don't see much of a difference between Senators and the House at this point. But I take your point re gerrymandering and Senators. I still don't think you'll be able to find enough Senators to get past that 2/3rds requirement for impeachment.

Fair. But as with Bush, once a sufficient number of Republicans decide that he is hurting them, they will decide that he isn't really a conservative and abandon him. It's going to happen at some point.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I think Trump's dumb enough to step over plausible deniability. But I think the people colluding are sophisticated enough to have put failsafes in in place to avoid that.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Is it really true that everyone is jerking each other off about it?

Yes. But, unfortunately, it's all solicited.

Sad.

TM

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

If it's indica, I'm good all day. Strong sativa, I'm a sketchy mess.

Vaporized is preferred. In that case, either strain is fine.

Outdated distinction. Out here in legal weed land, it's all about the terpenes, man.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

No one gives a fuck about what you think.

Well, not many do, but there are a few, and I make a living from them.

To me, it's not the percent, because it would be a very low percent, and not even the number, because I just don't need that many.

It's how often those few do and at what rate that is relevant.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

If Trump knew that people working for him were making efforts to get the Russians to help him win the election, and that the Russians might expect some consideration in return, do you think that would be a crime?

At the end of the day, isn't this whole Russian thing simply about whether or not the fact that someone has been elected President makes everything else irrelevant? Isn't that fundamentally the Trump the defense, that the sovereign can do no wrong?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Only my fellow New York-bubble people.

TM

Hey!

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

There you go again with the incorrect overgeneralizations.

This is close. I want to say whiff, but I know you’ve climbed to Dharamsala, too.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Well, not many do, but there are a few, and I make a living from them.

To me, it's not the percent, because it would be a very low percent, and not even the number, because I just don't need that many.

It's how often those few do and at what rate that is relevant.

Ugh.

Vampire Weekend.

For fuck’s sake.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

These are not the people I mean.

Manafort, Stone, etc.

The “family” are just morons.