General discussion - Mom and Dad Esq.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

You could say the same thing about economic expert reports. While a good economic expert (who primarily but not exclusively tend to be the defense side, btw) will do more work than you suggest, and can add real value to the analysis, its not like the finder of fact hears anything other than "defense guy say X and plaintiff's guy says Y."

The only difference between the economic experts and the others is they'll whack up the bill to six figures having accting associates read irrelevant boxes of docs before they'll give you their initial assessments.

The expert testimony industry stands at the base of everything completely fucked up in the litigation business. If there's a bigger racket, I've yet to see it. For further reading, check this out: http://www.caller2.com/2005/pics/PTO29jurisdiction.pdf

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The expert testimony industry stands at the base of everything completely fucked up in the litigation business. If there's a bigger racket, I've yet to see it. For further reading, check this out: http://www.caller2.com/2005/pics/PTO29jurisdiction.pdf

2.

I actually had a case that was low budget (but ended up my first million dollar case). we hired a really low budget damages guy. I told him "1 version of your report."

my case gets thrown out, i go to appeal, get my case back in, and 3 years later we headed for trial- I look at my "experts" report, and he has 4 versions on his computer. he was a mess and I decide to skip that. the Judge bi-furcates, which buys time. I win and now it's damage time. I say, I ain't using an expert. I'll prove my damages with the infringer's testimony and my president's. the other lawyer actually moved to have my case thrown out since i couldn't prove damages w/o an expert. huh? the weird thing was the judge actually thought about it, i could tell he was about to step on my case.

i hate experts.

but, since this is the parents board, i will say this- if you can get your kids into a position where they're hired as an expert, that is a lucrative thing.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

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I actually had a case that was low budget (but ended up my first million dollar case). we hired a really low budget damages guy. I told him "1 version of your report."

my case gets thrown out, i go to appeal, get my case back in, and 3 years later we headed for trial- I look at my "experts" report, and he has 4 versions on his computer. he was a mess and I decide to skip that. the Judge bi-furcates, which buys time. I win and now it's damage time. I say, I ain't using an expert. I'll prove my damages with the infringer's testimony and my president's. the other lawyer actually moved to have my case thrown out since i couldn't prove damages w/o an expert. huh? the weird thing was the judge actually thought about it, i could tell he was about to step on my case.

i hate experts.

but, since this is the parents board, i will say this- if you can get your kids into a position where they're hired as an expert, that is a lucrative thing.

Ever dealt with an "Expert Broker"?

"Yeah, I need a [insert type of expert], from out of state."*

"I got one in Maryland."

"Fine. How many times has he testified?"

"He's got a few under his belt, but it's all good. He can handle himself. Knows the drill. Where can I fax the C.V.?"

Parents should be careful their kids don't get into this crowd, IMHO.

* So nobody knows too much about him/her.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Salami from Katz's

That's for boys in the Army.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

2.

I actually had a case that was low budget (but ended up my first million dollar case). we hired a really low budget damages guy. I told him "1 version of your report."

my case gets thrown out, i go to appeal, get my case back in, and 3 years later we headed for trial- I look at my "experts" report, and he has 4 versions on his computer. he was a mess and I decide to skip that. the Judge bi-furcates, which buys time. I win and now it's damage time. I say, I ain't using an expert. I'll prove my damages with the infringer's testimony and my president's. the other lawyer actually moved to have my case thrown out since i couldn't prove damages w/o an expert. huh? the weird thing was the judge actually thought about it, i could tell he was about to step on my case.

i hate experts.

but, since this is the parents board, i will say this- if you can get your kids into a position where they're hired as an expert, that is a lucrative thing.

That's actually my dream career move. If I could start getting tax expert gigs, it would improve the quality of my life tenfold.

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

That's for boys in the Army.

Or prison, eg Madoff.

[Hank Chinaski]

everyone solved all of their kid questions?

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

everyone solved all of their kid questions?

We still have that little issue, npi, out there, but I told your wife to save the money on the paternity tests. I think we know what's what

[Hank Chinaski]

yes or no, kids a positive or a negative?

[John Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

yes or no, kids a positive or a negative?

Kids = A positive. Does that mean I can't complain about parenthood sometimes?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

yes or no, kids a positive or a negative?

Doesn't this depend on the kids? I mean, my offspring are wonderful, but I often worry about the neighbors'. And the notion of Slave, Jr. does leave me with a bit of trepidation.



As to your kids, while I know I've heard Justice Holmes-style concerns, I also know that there is a tendancy for IQ to move toward the mean, so I don't share those worries.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

yes or no, kids a positive or a negative?

I love mine. They're both a lot of fun and veru interesting in their own way. What's more, aside from the pets, they are the only two creatures on the planet who really love me.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

yes or no, kids a positive or a negative?

All things considered, a net positive.

S_A_M

[PresentTense Pirate Penske]

Originally Posted by Secret_Agent_Man

All things considered, a net positive.

S_A_M

You're not a CPA, yes?

[Tyrone Slothrop]