Doesn’t Matter Who Wins the K Race; We’re All the Same

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Yes, if there is anything that the left stands for, it is controlling people through the mass media. It's uncanny how well you understand us. I shall have to report on this to my comrades.

But we're living in Huxley's world. You think you think what you think by choice, but is that really true? How much of it is conditioning? How much of it is the opinions of authority figures around you drummed into your head as a child? How much of it is peer pressure? How much of it is a desire to telecast certain sensibilities? Certain education, status? How much of it is the media you choose to consume?

I listen to you, then I listen to a Trumpkin, and the only real difference I see is you've read more books.

I can't figure out which one of the two of you has more free will in regard to his views and thoughts. It's possible neither of you has much at all.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Then why did you write that he views the dossier as fake as though it was true?

I don't understand what you are trying to ask. He referred to a "fake dossier," so I dropped that link to the Steele dossier. I'm sorry you missed the context when you posted in response.

Nice try. No. I'm saying exactly what I wrote: The majority of Trumpkins are not bigots or racists. Most are economically fucked. Or greedy.

Since you insist on using the words "bigot" and "racist" differently than those people do, you're making a point about semantics, not facts. Also, you've repeatedly insisting that whether someone is either depends on understanding their state of mind, also not a simple question of fact. If someone says that 'Trumpkins are racist,' they are making a point about racism that you don't want to hear. They are interpreting the same facts available to you, but differently.

Get out of your silo. There are five or six left leaning news sources for every one conservative or right news source. The left's hair is on fire about conservative media because, for some bizarre reason, Fox somehow retains a position as the most watched of all cable news networks. I wonder if the people on the left who flip out about Fox's influence have ever considered this basic rule of marketing:

If you have ten varieties of Cola A, but only one variety of Cola B, that one variety of Cola B will outsell on a one to one basis each variety of Cola A. But all of the varieties of Cola A taken together will outsell Cola B by 10:1.

As I said, there are mainstream news sources, and conservative news sources. I think the game you are playing is to call the mainstream sources "left-leaning," yes?

When you say that "the left's hair is on fire ... because ... Fox [is] the most watched of all cable news networks," you show that you have a lousy sense of what people to the left of you think. I don't know of anyone who gives a shit about whether Fox is watched, as such. People do give a shit about the propaganda that Fox pumps out, the fact that it is divorced from the facts that the rest of us share, and the fact that people who watch Fox regularly grow less well informed. Of course, there is no analogue to this on the left.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

But we're living in Huxley's world. You think you think what you think by choice, but is that really true? How much of it is conditioning? How much of it is the opinions of authority figures around you drummed into your head as a child? How much of it is peer pressure? How much of it is a desire to telecast certain sensibilities? Certain education, status? How much of it is the media you choose to consume?

I listen to you, then I listen to a Trumpkin, and the only real difference I see is you've read more books.

I can't figure out which one of the two of you has more free will in regard to his views and thoughts. It's possible neither of you has much at all.

It's true -- as bilmore is my witness, everything I do is compelled by an irrational urge to impress Flower. Your insight is uncanny.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

This article is about tech nerds and it's four years old, but so much of what it says they get wrong about politics is also true of Sebby. Sebby, obviously you belong in Silicon Valley.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

This article is about tech nerds and it's four years old, but so much of what it says they get wrong about politics is also true of Sebby. Sebby, obviously you belong in Silicon Valley.

You are sadly misinformed. First jocks are still the top, tech nerds are important to tech nerds (sorry). Second I’ve voted 10 times for president 5 D 5 R. But I don’t exist according to this very intelligent analysis.

You know I love you? Stop spending so much time reading this sort nonsense. Drink. Run. Fuck. Masturbate. Create a plf @ 25 sock and goof on the current plf- something. But just stop wasting your time like this?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

You are sadly misinformed. First jocks are still the top, tech nerds are important to tech nerds (sorry). Second I’ve voted 10 times for president 5 D 5 R. But I don’t exist according to this very intelligent analysis.

You know I love you? Stop spending so much time reading this sort nonsense. Drink. Run. Fuck. Masturbate. Create a plf @ 25 sock and goof on the current plf- something. But just stop wasting your time like this?

It doesn't say you don't exist. It just says you're uncommon. That's why we cherish you, Hank. Happy Thanksgiving!

eta: Also, nerds who are also jocks > nerds. That's why Bezos bulked up when he got rich.
But in the new economy, nerds > jocks. If that's not true in Detroit, well, come to Silicon Valley sometime to check it out. I can't promise a meal by an open sewer line, though.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Picture of jacked Bezos.

He's done a lot of curls, no doubt. But I've stood next to him at a dinner. One of Hank's physical stature could literally dwarf bowl the guy.

(I should have talked to him. But what would I say? "Prime is really great... And your head is sooo shiny! Do you use product?")

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

You are sadly misinformed. First jocks are still the top, tech nerds are important to tech nerds (sorry). Second I’ve voted 10 times for president 5 D 5 R. But I don’t exist according to this very intelligent analysis.

You know I love you? Stop spending so much time reading this sort nonsense. Drink. Run. Fuck. Masturbate. Create a plf @ 25 sock and goof on the current plf- something. But just stop wasting your time like this?

You've got to break it down a little bit. First, there are jock nerds these days. That's top of pecking order.

Then there's jocks. But that's got a laddering as well:

1. Lax bros;
2. Soccer/Basketball/Hockey;
3. Solo sport kids (skiing/tennis);
4. Football;
5. Baseball

The traditional football jock is fading away as parents of athletes won't let their kids play it anymore. Those kids get funneled into lacrosse and hockey now.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

This article is about tech nerds and it's four years old, but so much of what it says they get wrong about politics is also true of Sebby. Sebby, obviously you belong in Silicon Valley.

Based on my observation of about 30 nieces and nephews between the ages of 18 and 30, the age group that determines what is hip, it is my conclusion that tech nerds are falling out of fashion. They were the cool kids of the pre-Trump 21st century.

The new cool kid is the policy wonk. Too bad we're all too old to be cool kids.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You've got to break it down a little bit. First, there are jock nerds these days. That's top of pecking order.

Then there's jocks. But that's got a laddering as well:

1. Lax bros;
2. Soccer/Basketball/Hockey;
3. Solo sport kids (skiing/tennis);
4. Football;
5. Baseball

The traditional football jock is fading away as parents of athletes won't let their kids play it anymore. Those kids get funneled into lacrosse and hockey now.

At a high school reunion maybe fifteen years ago, I was told that our group was the cool kids. We just didn't care, and that was what made us cool.

This was amusing, but, of course, we didn't care.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You've got to break it down a little bit. First, there are jock nerds these days. That's top of pecking order.

Then there's jocks. But that's got a laddering as well:

1. Lax bros;
2. Soccer/Basketball/Hockey;
3. Solo sport kids (skiing/tennis);
4. Football;
5. Baseball

The traditional football jock is fading away as parents of athletes won't let their kids play it anymore. Those kids get funneled into lacrosse and hockey now.

Lacrosse AND hockey?

Translation: Sebby is main line.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'm saying exactly what I wrote: The majority of Trumpkins are not bigots or racists. Most are economically fucked. Or greedy.

You do realize that we know you just pull this shit out of your overstretched asshole, right? It is hilarious that you say this ridiculous, stupid shit with such authority.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

But we're living in Huxley's world. You think you think what you think by choice, but is that really true? How much of it is conditioning? How much of it is the opinions of authority figures around you drummed into your head as a child? How much of it is peer pressure? How much of it is a desire to telecast certain sensibilities? Certain education, status? How much of it is the media you choose to consume?

I listen to you, then I listen to a Trumpkin, and the only real difference I see is you've read more books.

I can't figure out which one of the two of you has more free will in regard to his views and thoughts. It's possible neither of you has much at all.

This whole post is pure fucking comedy.

"You think you think what you think by choice..."

"[But besides your lifelong programming, your opinions are based on what you want to express to others to show your education and status.]"

"[You're just like these uneducated assholes, except you're educated.]"

You are catastrophically stupid.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

[Unnecessary photo fucking up our margins.]

Dude...

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You do realize that we know you just pull this shit out of your overstretched asshole, right? It is hilarious that you say this ridiculous, stupid shit with such authority.

TM

Saying ridiculous, stupid shit with authority is one of the hallmarks of Trumpism. An overwhelming majority of Trump supporters do it.