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[Shape Shifter]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I have heard that abstinence heals sore muscles, but have never tried it.

Abstinence is a great idea, but I also think you need to enforce, you know, condoms and birth control and other things like that to have safe sex. I don't just think telling young kids, you can't have sex, it's not going to work. It's not realistic

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I've known people like that. It might just be a combination of obliviousness and self-rightiousness (they couldn't really mean "me pull over now.").

I think this pretty much nails it, though I haven't heard the details directly from her. I think she saw his lights, got flustered, pulled into the closest driveway--which was also the garage--couldn't find a space, and kept going up until she found one. I think it never occured to her that the lights meant NOW. And he was a metro police officer, and therefore already probably had a complex about people not respecting him properly.

One of my other pissed-off-on-her-behalf said that she was thrown in jail because she was brown (she's Indian). I think she was thrown in jail because with every turn up that parking garage, the cop's blood pressure went up another notch.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I think this pretty much nails it, though I haven't heard the details directly from her. I think she saw his lights, got flustered, pulled into the closest driveway--which was also the garage--couldn't find a space, and kept going up until she found one. I think it never occured to her that the lights meant NOW. And he was a metro police officer, and therefore already probably had a complex about people not respecting him properly.

One of my other pissed-off-on-her-behalf said that she was thrown in jail because she was brown (she's Indian). I think she was thrown in jail because with every turn up that parking garage, the cop's blood pressure went up another notch.

She's lucky she didn't get pepper sprayed when she got out of the car.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Cletus Miller

She's lucky she didn't get pepper sprayed when she got out of the car.

My friend Joe, another guy and me drove out to this bar, way out in the country. We all struck out. When we’re heading home on I-75, Joe’s going ninety. We see a cop car flash his lights on us, and other guy say,s "Joe, he’s State Police, he can’t give you a ticket if you get off the expressway." Turns out there were factual errors in that advice.

Joe accelerates to get off at the next exit, and turns the wrong direction through a turn around. I thought we’d be clear, but I’m looking out the rear window, and right behind us the cop car jumps the median, and is right behind us.

The guy hits his flashers. Joe gets out of the car. I’m in the back seat. There were three police cars there in a minute. The cop from the first car has his gun out, and is yelling at Joe ‘Why did you run? Why did you run?’

Joe just looks at them, drops his arms to his sides and says, ‘Hit me. Hit me.’

I was in the back seat, scared shitless, when the cops searched the car. They were yelling at me, "Where you from" "____ville" He points "____ville's that way. Start walking."

Then, in the back seat they find all of Joe’s law books. Once the cop saw that, he changed. He got respectful. Like the cop realized he couldn’t fuck with Joe, since he was almost a lawyer. Then it turns out the cop was his buddy from high school- Joe didn't get a ticket, but he was locked up for a few hours.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I think this pretty much nails it, though I haven't heard the details directly from her. I think she saw his lights, got flustered, pulled into the closest driveway--which was also the garage--couldn't find a space, and kept going up until she found one. I think it never occured to her that the lights meant NOW. And he was a metro police officer, and therefore already probably had a complex about people not respecting him properly.

One of my other pissed-off-on-her-behalf said that she was thrown in jail because she was brown (she's Indian). I think she was thrown in jail because with every turn up that parking garage, the cop's blood pressure went up another notch.

She's like 99% of ordinary people. Get inside her head and it's "I'm not a violent criminal and I'm entitled not to be treated like one."

The cop is like 99% of cops. Get inside his head and it's "What if she's a violent criminal?"

I side with the cop. If we're going to ask a tiny fraction of our society to take on the job to telling random people to stop doing what they're doing, and expect them to take on the risk of getting shot in the face without warning .0001% of the times they do so, the least I can do to help them decide this is not that .0001% of the time is to PULL THE FUCK OVER.

[Atticus Grinch]

All these years later, Kim Possible is still one sweet, sweet piece of cartoon ass. She may still be in high school, but I'm going to assume she's legal by now.

[Jack Manfred]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan
I think this pretty much nails it, though I haven't heard the details directly from her. I think she saw his lights, got flustered, pulled into the closest driveway--which was also the garage--couldn't find a space, and kept going up until she found one. I think it never occured to her that the lights meant NOW. And he was a metro police officer, and therefore already probably had a complex about people not respecting him properly.

One of my other pissed-off-on-her-behalf said that she was thrown in jail because she was brown (she's Indian). I think she was thrown in jail because with every turn up that parking garage, the cop's blood pressure went up another notch.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

She's like 99% of ordinary people. Get inside her head and it's "I'm not a violent criminal and I'm entitled not to be treated like one."

The cop is like 99% of cops. Get inside his head and it's "What if she's a violent criminal?"

I side with the cop. If we're going to ask a tiny fraction of our society to take on the job to telling random people to stop doing what they're doing, and expect them to take on the risk of getting shot in the face without warning .0001% of the times they do so, the least I can do to help them decide this is not that .0001% of the time is to PULL THE FUCK OVER.

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If I taught driver's ed/driver's training, I'd arrange it so that a cop pulled over every single one of my students, just so they'd be less likely to freak out when it happened in real life.

Traffic stops are inherently dangerous. Officers who perform them are usually alone, which compounds the danger. They've got twenty different things going on in their head when they approach that driver's side door. Does the driver have a weapon? Am I going to get clipped by traffic while I'm walking to the car? Did s/he just move? How far away is backup if I need it? Is that car going to come back stolen? Are they going to try to take off?

Tell your friend she's lucky that she didn't pick up at least a resisting arrest charge. Sounds more like a righteous evading case to me, and for felony evading, police procedure is to do a felony stop. For those who are not avid Cops watchers, that means guns drawn, officers yelling, and getting on the ground or walking backwards into handcuffs. When an officer is solo on such a stop, the chance of getting tased goes up very, very quickly.

If that police report was on my desk, she'd be picking trash on the side of the road later this summer. If you think auto insurance is expensive after you have an accident or get a speeding ticket, consider for a second how much your rates go up when you're convicted of felony (or even misdemeanor) evading.

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Amy Grant and Alanis Morisette

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Originally Posted by ltl/fb

Amy Grant and Alanis Morisette

thank goodness for iPod capability of iPhone

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ltl/fb

thank goodness for iPod capability of iPhone

doesn't your robo-vacuum make too much noise for you to listen to music?

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally Posted by Jack Manfred

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If I taught driver's ed/driver's training, I'd arrange it so that a cop pulled over every single one of my students, just so they'd be less likely to freak out when it happened in real life.

Traffic stops are inherently dangerous. Officers who perform them are usually alone, which compounds the danger. They've got twenty different things going on in their head when they approach that driver's side door. Does the driver have a weapon? Am I going to get clipped by traffic while I'm walking to the car? Did s/he just move? How far away is backup if I need it? Is that car going to come back stolen? Are they going to try to take off?

Tell your friend she's lucky that she didn't pick up at least a resisting arrest charge. Sounds more like a righteous evading case to me, and for felony evading, police procedure is to do a felony stop. For those who are not avid Cops watchers, that means guns drawn, officers yelling, and getting on the ground or walking backwards into handcuffs. When an officer is solo on such a stop, the chance of getting tased goes up very, very quickly.

If that police report was on my desk, she'd be picking trash on the side of the road later this summer. If you think auto insurance is expensive after you have an accident or get a speeding ticket, consider for a second how much your rates go up when you're convicted of felony (or even misdemeanor) evading.

What I learned from my stint as a criminal defense attorney: In most cases, criminals aren't any more criminal than you or I. They're just stupider about it and wind up getting caught.

RT's friend proves that.

[Fugee]

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

What I learned from my stint as a criminal defense attorney: In most cases, criminals aren't any more criminal than you or I. They're just stupider about it and wind up getting caught.

RT's friend proves that.

You were a criminal defense attorney? Somehow I missed that.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

I side with the cop. If we're going to ask a tiny fraction of our society to take on the job to telling random people to stop doing what they're doing, and expect them to take on the risk of getting shot in the face without warning .0001% of the times they do so, the least I can do to help them decide this is not that .0001% of the time is to PULL THE FUCK OVER.

Indeed. If she were a bit older, a taser would have been appropriate.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally Posted by Jack Manfred

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If I taught driver's ed/driver's training, I'd arrange it so that a cop pulled over every single one of my students, just so they'd be less likely to freak out when it happened in real life.

Traffic stops are inherently dangerous. Officers who perform them are usually alone, which compounds the danger. They've got twenty different things going on in their head when they approach that driver's side door. Does the driver have a weapon? Am I going to get clipped by traffic while I'm walking to the car? Did s/he just move? How far away is backup if I need it? Is that car going to come back stolen? Are they going to try to take off?

Tell your friend she's lucky that she didn't pick up at least a resisting arrest charge. Sounds more like a righteous evading case to me, and for felony evading, police procedure is to do a felony stop. For those who are not avid Cops watchers, that means guns drawn, officers yelling, and getting on the ground or walking backwards into handcuffs. When an officer is solo on such a stop, the chance of getting tased goes up very, very quickly.

If that police report was on my desk, she'd be picking trash on the side of the road later this summer. If you think auto insurance is expensive after you have an accident or get a speeding ticket, consider for a second how much your rates go up when you're convicted of felony (or even misdemeanor) evading.

Not to defend RT's friend (if there's a charge for felony stupidity, she seems to have earned it on this one), but one thing I don't understand: In California, at least, police cars are equipped with loudspeakers. So, if a cop is behind you, with lights flashing, and you are going really slowly but not pulling over, you will suddenly hear a very LOUD command to "pull over to the side of the road now!"

Do they not have this technology in Texas?

The purpose of the technology is not to protect the stupid, to to sort out the truly criminal -- the driver who is really just looking for the opportunity to slam on the gas and get away -- from the merely stupid. Police should waste too much time dealing with the latter.