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Old 04-21-2008, 02:48 PM   #4966
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I won't disagree with you that the GOP has no answer for the economic concerns of most voters.
Let's be accurate here:

The GOP presents no answers
The Dems present what purport to be answers but in fact are not.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:49 PM   #4967
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obama is going to give everyone $50,000 and health care, and it'll all be FREE!!!!!
"Yes we can!" Indeed. Bankruptcy's not a complicated endeavor.

Obama = Bush III, just wasting the money elsewhere.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:50 PM   #4968
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obama is going to give everyone $50,000 and health care, and it'll all be FREE!!!!!
McCain is going to make gas cheap again. So that's tough call right there.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:51 PM   #4969
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Uh, John Kerry was a lot of things, but he was no Southerner...
And Al Gore, while technically a southerner, is pretty far from one (born DC, St. Albans, Harvard). I doubt he's ever been in an El Camino, or tears up at the sight of chromed pick up trucks.
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McCain is going to make gas cheap again. So that's tough call right there.
Well, so is Congress, once it tells those trustbusters to get on the oil companies for price fixing.
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:54 PM   #4971
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A truth universally acknowledged, or oversimplification? I'm leaning toward the former.
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McCain is going to make gas cheap again. So that's tough call right there.
The gas tax holiday sounds simple and silly, but it may help to buffer us through what will otherwise be a lousy travel season, economically speaking.
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Let's be accurate here:

The GOP presents no answers
The Dems present what purport to be answers but in fact are not.
Are you thinking of health care when you say this?
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Are you thinking of health care when you say this?
I'm thinking of the economy--e.g., employment, NAFTA, etc.

The difference isn't so stark with health care, because the question there is how much redistribution of wealth we're willing to have in order to provide health care coverage to those without.
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Also, I think Obama brings Virginia and maybe the Carolinas into play in a way that I don't think Hillary can.
Not South Carolina.
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The gas tax holiday sounds simple and silly, but it may help to buffer us through what will otherwise be a lousy travel season, economically speaking.
Reducing taxes will increase demand, which will increase the price and our reliance on foreign oil. Why postpone the inevitable? (Other than because that's what the federal government seems most capable of doing these days?)
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:59 PM   #4977
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The gas tax holiday sounds simple and silly, but it may help to buffer us through what will otherwise be a lousy travel season, economically speaking.
It may, if supply and demand have nothing to do with the price of gas.
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I'm thinking of the economy--e.g., employment, NAFTA, etc.

The difference isn't so stark with health care, because the question there is how much redistribution of wealth we're willing to have in order to provide health care coverage to those without.
I love the word "universal" in that debate. Wouldn't it be more honest to say, "health care for everyone, paid for by 3/4 of the country."

But then, if it only costs me a grand a year, I say do it. Get the fucking issue out of everyone's faces. Give the complainers one less thing to bitch about.
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I'm thinking of the economy--e.g., employment, NAFTA, etc.

The difference isn't so stark with health care, because the question there is how much redistribution of wealth we're willing to have in order to provide health care coverage to those without.
I don't think that's nearly the biggest question there. It's more a question of whether the government can make the market work better over the opposition of those whose business models are based on the current craziness. As always, RT has my proxy.
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Reducing taxes will increase demand, which will increase the price and our reliance on foreign oil. Why postpone the inevitable? (Other than because that's what the federal government seems most capable of doing these days?)
how much is tax? it looks like in Ontario, around Toronto, a gallon of regular costs about $4.36 right now. $1.10 or so is tax. are we that taxed?
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