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Old 07-07-2011, 03:06 PM   #4981
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This is why I shop at Nordstrom Rack and just bring the wife. She will be honest if a suit doesn't fit me, but the salesman will tell me it fits no matter what.
I am no more interested in who "Nordstroms" is than what "Nancy Grace" is, but am curious about Nordstroms' Rack and your wife. Is that who those pictures were really of?
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:07 PM   #4982
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I went to Nordstrom's 3 weeks ago and bought a suit. I was looking for a blue pinstripe. The salesguy was very obsequious and would not leave me alone- anyway, I passed on the $700+ suits he kept pushing, and got a $495 Nordstrom's brand- it was not a decision based upon cost, I seldom buy suits anymore so I could spring for the extra- BUT I wanted a blue pinstripe and the higher end ones were not that.

I asked the guy, "Hey, any sales coming up?" "No."

So I go back to pick it up the other day, and there was an enormous sale going on- the guy, the guy who wants me to look for him because he is a dedicated salesman who will help me- he walks up but when he realizes I'm there to just pick up he calms down a bit- meanwhile I'm pissed because he should have told me about the sales, "I say hey, what would this suit cost me if I bought it today?"

He goes, "This suit? The same. We can't put this $495 suit on sale, the sale is for $800, $900 dollar suits."

And he says this in front of my wife? Look, I'm not bothered that she hears him insult my suit, but he doesn't know that right? I hate suit salesmen like thurgreed hates cabdrivers.

My dad owned one suit and I remember going to Sear's with him to get a new one. My dad didn't want to be there and the salesman was a completely insulting dick to my dad-

Meanwhile, my dad was a master carpenter and this asshole sells suits, AT SEAR'S!!!! Mother fucker.

(sorry if this offends anyone based upon what their dads do)
Shocking. You should have cuffed the swine soundly about the head and shoulders.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 04:09 PM   #4983
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Shocking. You should have cuffed the swine soundly about the head and shoulders.
Right? I mean I'm a published author and shit.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:12 PM   #4984
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Right? I mean I'm a published author and shit.
Perhaps he doesn't read Mad Dog Aficionado every month and missed your entry.
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I am no more interested in who "Nordstroms" is than what "Nancy Grace" is, but am curious about Nordstroms' Rack and your wife. Is that who those pictures were really of?
For some reason I thought Nordstrom was Boston-based. Apparently it's Seattle. Who knew?
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:17 PM   #4986
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Right? I mean I'm a published author and shit.
Seriously.

Maybe you just don't have enough choices out there -- it seems like Nordstrom's and Sears are the only places that sell suits in the Midwest?

Around here, if you want to be all like, "sure, I have the money and could spring for a good suit, but the nice ones aren't in the pattern I like, plus I'm frugal and come from hardy working-class stock" and whatever other shit you say to convince yourself you're not just a tight bastard, you can go to Century 21 and dig through the racks. You'll get no attitude from the salespeople there, because (a) good luck finding one and (2) they know they're working in a glorified flea market and the fact that they hate you is a given.

But if you want your ass kissed like it should be when you're spending a grand on a suit, you can go to Bergdorf and act like a big shot. I did it once, and my dry cleaning lady has looked at me with new eyes ever since.

Someone will be along shortly to talk about getting suits handmade by some itinerant guy from Hong Kong, and I'm sure that's great, but we're busy men, right?
 
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to convince yourself you're not just a tight bastard,
I can think of no good reason why any reasonable person would want/need to convince himself of that.

As for Hank's wife, he can smooth it over easy by spending the difference on some flowers.
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I can think of no good reason why any reasonable person would want/need to convince himself of that.
No one likes a tight bastard. Stand a round once in a while, alligator arms.
 
Old 07-07-2011, 04:54 PM   #4989
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No one likes a tight bastard. Stand a round once in a while, alligator arms.
Aye, that's different. Spending $500 instead of a grand is a badge of honor. Not getting your round is a badge of disgrace.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:59 PM   #4990
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I asked the guy, "Hey, any sales coming up?" "No."
Not a good move and a sign he probably won't be there long.

Nordstrom's annual post-July 4 sale is as well known as the Mets' September collapse. He should have been honest. I am pretty sure they usually tell people -- "If this suit goes on sale, we will honor the sale price."
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:02 PM   #4991
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Aye, that's different. Spending $500 instead of a grand is a badge of honor. Not getting your round is a badge of disgrace.
You know, I don't wear suits much, but when I do, they fit. I'm kind of expecting you guys might as well be wearing sacks.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:03 PM   #4992
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No one likes a tight bastard. Stand a round once in a while, alligator arms.
This guy won't even carry a little water for Fugee. I wouldn't buy a round that he'd buy - that's not a shelf you want to be drinking from.
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Old 07-07-2011, 05:05 PM   #4993
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No one likes a tight bastard.
I don't usually respond to a post twice, but I suspect Hank's wife is oddly fond of him.
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Spending $500 instead of a grand is a badge of honor.
One might think so. But the point of Hank's story isn't that he got a $1000 suit for $500 and subsequently wore that victory like a badge on the front of his honorably half-price, yet full-quality, suit. The point is that he bought a $495 suit and then felt burning shame in front of his long-suffering wife* when the snarky salesman called Hank out on his attempt to further whittle the price down like a fishwife haggling over the price of day-old mackerel in a stinking, dingy market catering to the lower classes.

At least that's how I read it.


*(and a simultaneous dizzying flashback to his father's own humiliating trauma at the hands of a haughty Sears clothier, who sniggered snootily at his old man's calloused hands and simple country ways while Hank looked on helplessly, full of impotent rage)
 
Old 07-07-2011, 05:07 PM   #4995
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Not a good move and a sign he probably won't be there long.

Nordstrom's annual post-July 4 sale is as well known as the Mets' September collapse. He should have been honest. I am pretty sure they usually tell people -- "If this suit goes on sale, we will honor the sale price."
My saleswoman (and others there) tell me which suits are going on sale, and the sale price. She even holds it for me. Only about 30-40% of the suits go on sale though.
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