Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
There's a 21 year old kid over at Salon that Kerry's going to win by a landslide. I figure he has about as good of a chance of being right as anyone else. (ETA the letters in response are pretty damned funny. "I can only applaud you cats over at Salon.com, for reminding me what it feels like to be young, blindly optimistic and hyped tha fuck up!"

I have a hard time hearing someone talk about the "new voter realities" when they weren't old enough to vote the last time around. FWIW, I didn't invest in dot-com stocks either.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
It's Kerry, by 2:1!

I mean literally, 2-1.

Not any more. Me thinks penske's socks may have struck.

FYI - Cleveland Plain Dealer poll shows Bush up 48-45 in Ohio.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Not Me
Not any more. Me thinks penske's socks may have struck.

Voting fraud on this board? I'm shocked, shocked I say.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Zogby was on The Daily Show last night. Claims that undecideds are more likely to vote for Kerry. His explanation for this hypothesis left something to be desired. Don't know if he was just pandering to the audience. I have no idea how his poll typically leans, as I pay no attention to the polls.

I could see a chunk of people voting for Bush, but not wanting to tell a poll. they feel guilty because they really believe the "soft on terror," but don't want to admit it.

My main hope is this, tuesday I'll be watching the Piston's hang a banner then watching Ben Wallace teach Yao some lessons. Back home at 11:30- I want it over by then. Its possible, everything contested is in the East.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Don't worry bub. I've never lost a bet for paying for the board. I've won two secret bets, and I do not intend to start losing next Tuesday.

So your money's on Kerry?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Its possible, everything contested is in the East.

Weather person predicts rain in the east on Tuesday.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I could see a chunk of people voting for Bush, but not wanting to tell a poll. they feel guilty because they really believe the "soft on terror," but don't want to admit it.

My main hope is this, tuesday I'll be watching the Piston's hang a banner then watching Ben Wallace teach Yao some lessons. Back home at 11:30- I want it over by then. Its possible, everything contested is in the East.

I originally read this last part as, "everything is contested in the East" -- double entendre. Voting and hoops. Eastern Conference = Detroit's defense. Western Conference = no defense.

I then realized I gave you too much credit.

TM

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Not Me
Who would be more likely to not want to talk to a pollster - an unemployed/welfare mother sitting at home with no one to talk to but children or a white-collar worker who works 60 hours a week and just wants a few minutes of peace while at home eating dinner?

I agree. I never talk to pollsters.


On the other hand, I'm sure Bubba takes lots of calls at the gun club.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I originally read this last part as, "everything is contested in the East" -- double entendre. Voting and hoops. Eastern Conference = Detroit's defense. Western Conference = no defense.

I then realized I gave you too much credit.

TM

Isn't NY in the East still? It's not contested there.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Speaking of picking and choosing, the Detroit News has Kerry leading by 6.8 points.

this is meaningless, because the polls say what they say, but over the past few weeks the News has consistanly had it tied. I post only because you posted only to say i lied. I don't know what you linked to here, I don't know what a poll may say today. I do know the News has been consistant that its tied over the past few weeks.

PS you did give RT your paypal info, didn't you?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Not Me
Weather person predicts rain in the east on Tuesday.

Perhaps some showers, but not much more than that --


ABC News Vote 2004: election day weather:


Based on the extended forecast provided by NOAA:

The forecast for Columbus, Ohio is mostly cloudy, with a slight chance of showers in the morning and cool.

The forecast for Cincinnati, OH is mostly cloudy in the morning with a chance of showers, then becoming partly cloudy and cool.

The forecast for Iowa is partly cloudy and cool.

The forecast for Pennsylvania is mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers and nice.

The forecast for New Hampshire is mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of rain showers, breezy and cool.

The forecast for Miami, FL is sunny with scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms and warm.

The forecast for Tallahassee, FL is mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms and warm.

The forecast for Orlando, FL is partly cloudy and warm.

The forecast for Michigan is cool with a chance of showers.

The forecast for Wisconsin is partly cloudy and cool.

The forecast for Minnesota is cool with a chance of showers.

The forecast for Nevada is mostly clear and mild.

The forecast for New Mexico is partly cloudy and cool.

The forecast for Colorado is partly cloudy and cool.

And it's always nice in Hawaii!

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
In its defense, that transcipt from David Kay indicated that the entire nation of Iraq had 2/3 the amount of explosives that are present in the entire USA. Also not mentioned are literally 7 million firearms, a few Al-Queda linked guys and gals, a missing Saddam Hussein and 51 other people to fill out a deck of cards (plus many more who wouldn't fit in the deck) etc. etc.

Don't get me wrong, I think Rummy/Bush made a mistake and didn't listen to his original commanders, instead finding someone he agreed with and then putting them in charge. However, even if they send a quarter-million in, I don't think there was any way to secure all of this stuff and still fight a war and search for things that set off radiation and chemical detectors, etc. etc. etc.

There were articles more than a year ago, but well after the invasion/conquest, where they were describing the process for dismantling and destroying weapons. It sounded insane.

Some American company would set up an explosives containment chamber, and they would put stuff in a bit (say, 1 155mm shell) at a time. THan they would incinerate/explode it. Maybe a few hundred a day. The entire tone of the article was, okay, so we do this for the next 2000 years, and then we can get on to the stock of grenades.

Ultimately, this solution is a technical/economic matter. Somebody needs to come up ways to dispose of this stuff in a system that can be built quickly and operated efficiently.

Otherwise, if you want to avoid even the hint of stories like we've seen the last year, you would need 2/3rds of America's military and police forces (several million people) keeping a lid on a country that is as heavily armed as Iraq.

Which is to say, my original criticism still stands, but there is no way we ever could have sent enough people to keep a lid on all of the dangerous arms in Iraq.

Lord knows I'm glad (hope) that this story is hurting Bush, but this is the truth.

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Too late.

Barring ten million dead Democratic voters rising from the ground (which, knowing past Democratic tactics, is quite possible), this election is a done deal.

We must be looking at different polls. But, what the heck? , You're due for a win.

S_A_M

[Adder]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
And as to your question "who do you blame?" The real answer is no one. In a war screw ups happen. You guys want to blame someone though.

If this was the administrations first reaction, we wouldn't be talking about it now.

Instead, y'all went with "the lying liberal press is trying to steal the election."

Containment was working?

Was any of it attached to a array of enriched uranium?

[Adder]

Originally posted by bilmore
Actually, the humor is lightening as I contemplate leaving here quite soon to go somewhere else where I am currently not in order to kill small game birds with large-bore shotguns.

Seems like the perfect end to a Friday, eh?

Ever kill things to take your frustrations out?