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Old 02-02-2008, 11:49 PM   #721
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Say what, now?
Another one bites the dust.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:04 AM   #722
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Another one bites the dust.
cool. Ty's extremist orgs can tell you how to think. To-ad-y.

hypo: i'm sure it won't get to this, but say it does, sunni or shia for you?
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:16 AM   #723
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cool. Ty's extremist orgs can tell you how to think. To-ad-y.

hypo: i'm sure it won't get to this, but say it does, sunni or shia for you?
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• To promote and defend First Amendment values of freedom of thought, inquiry and expression.
• To oppose restraints on open communication and to support access to information.
• To encourage, support and coordinate activities of national organizations in opposition to censorship.
• To encourage understanding that restrictions on the free interchange of ideas threaten religious, moral, political, artistic and intellectual freedom.
Seems ok to me.

Sunnis and Shia can weigh in on what my morning drive guy can say during my commute?
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:17 AM   #724
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cool. Ty's extremist orgs can tell you how to think. To-ad-y.

hypo: i'm sure it won't get to this, but say it does, sunni or shia for you?
When Giuliani went after the Brooklyn Museum of Art, you didn't need an extremist organization (like a museum lobbying group, or whoever that was) to tell you about it. That was just the first link I saw; I figured a cultured fellow like you would remember it well. Giuliani made sure it hit the headlines.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:19 AM   #725
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Seems ok to me.

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I agree with all that, maybe i should contribute! can you find where it confronted Clinton when his FCC fined people?
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:20 AM   #726
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When Giuliani went after the Brooklyn Museum of Art, you didn't need an extremist organization (like a museum lobbying group, or whoever that was) to tell you about it. Giuliani made sure it hit the headlines himself.
i don't anything you link to. what had the museum done? why did Teddy K vote to increase fines?
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:25 AM   #728
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i don't anything you link to. what had the museum done?
Go back and click on the link in my edited post.

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why did Teddy K vote to increase fines?
I have no idea, but if I had to guess I would surmise that the issue was wrapped into legislation on a bunch of other issues, and that a vote on the specific issue might come out somewhat differently, though perhaps not dispositively so.
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Old 02-03-2008, 12:48 AM   #729
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I have no idea, but if I had to guess I would surmise that the issue was wrapped into legislation on a bunch of other issues, and that a vote on the specific issue might come out somewhat differently, though perhaps not dispositively so.
sounds good enough for me. JP. trust your instincts and give Ty your proxy.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:01 AM   #730
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sounds good enough for me.
I didn't think you knew anything about it either.

Says here that the bill passed the Senate by unanimous consent, which is a little different than a 100-0 roll call. If it's clear that the votes are there to pass it, then leadership can let Senators avoid having to cast a politically unpopular vote against something that's going to happen. Kennedy doesn't need this protection, but others might appreciate it. It doesn't mean they support it, as you seem to believe.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:12 AM   #731
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I didn't think you knew anything about it either.

Says here that the bill passed the Senate by unanimous consent, which is a little different than a 100-0 roll call. If it's clear that the votes are there to pass it, then leadership can let Senators avoid having to cast a politically unpopular vote against something that's going to happen. Kennedy doesn't need this protection, but others might appreciate it. It doesn't mean they support it, as you seem to believe.
oh. that makes sense. JP was hoping your party might have some backbone and change this shit. what you're saying is they might not support it, but they don't have back bone so it doesn't matter? I think we can agree on that. friends?
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oh. that makes sense. JP was hoping your party might have some backbone and change this shit. what you're saying is they might not support it, but they don't have back bone so it doesn't matter? I think we can agree on that. friends?
All of us would prefer that both parties stop doing this shit, but recognize that the GOP is worse on this stuff because of its base of conservatives. You don't really disagree, but you are amused by trying to argue that the Dems are as bad as the GOP.
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:47 AM   #733
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All of us would prefer that both parties stop doing this shit, but recognize that the GOP is worse on this stuff because of its base of conservatives. You don't really disagree, but you are amused by trying to argue that the Dems are as bad as the GOP.
translation: I've seen each of the six Star Wars movies at least three times! Anyway, I'm feeling like i can do the Jedi mind trick.
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Old 02-03-2008, 02:06 AM   #734
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translation: I've seen each of the six Star Wars movies at least three times! Anyway, I'm feeling like i can do the Jedi mind trick.
Saw #1 once, and regretted it. Didn't see #2 or #3 at all, and have never regretted it.
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But is he for free speech? Isn't everyone? How would you know if someone is or is not?
As notedabove, ask his position on the FCC, Howard Stern, fines for unanticpated swear words, Janet Jackson, Giuliani's position on elephant shit art, so-called "hate speech" aggravators, that group that pickets military funerals, the Code Pink Berkeley brouhaha, and/or, among other things, which foreign goverments he would provide aid to.

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