Congratulations Slave and Catrin!!!

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch

The iTunes Music Store doesn't exist to make money selling music. It exists in order to continue making Apple hardware necessary in people's lives.

I don't think that Apple's financial results would bear that out, but maybe I am wrong.

ETA: Based on the most recent Q, I am wrong.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

Well, Kid's not getting anything done on his own (other than advocating for Napster). So I'm not sure which he wants--the government to intervene or for all the other musicians to join him and get an exemption from the antitrust laws for a group boycott.

Just wait. The European Commission is sure to bail him out...

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

What's different is Kid Rock isn't simply saying that Apple's getting too much of the pie from him. He's saying that everyone else should get more of the pie too, and until they do he's not going to sell to them (this, even though a whole bunch of other musicians apparently are satisfied with their piece of pie).

So in your hypo, Sony would be saying "We think you're getting too good a deal from everyone you deal with--Panasonic, Alpo, Hanes, whoever--so we're not going to sell to you at the price you want. In fact, we resent the fact that you're doing that so successfully, so we're not going to sell to you at all." Sure, that's negotiation, but then so would be "I'm going to burn down your store if you don't give me the deal you want."

actually no. because there is no substitute for Kid Rock (although most of us can deal with that), and sony has competition. Apple w/o kid rock is a store missing something someone "needs" to feel like they can rely on the store to fulfill their needs.

it's more like if a company had a choke-hold patent on some vital link, say a link between your computer and your car, and that compnay said you are killing the electronics business with your margins- you don't get our link unless you give everyone an extra 2%.

some of us could live w/o the link, but to some it limits the worth of the store.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Sparklehorse

Speaking of Judge Reinhold

MOCK TRIAL WITH J. REINHOLD! MOCK TRIAL WITH J. REINHOLD!

I miss that show.

Originally Posted by catrin_darcy

Thanks everyone for the well-wishes! If Slave and I can just make it through the next 13 days, this marriage thing may work out . . . .

Four more years!

You will note that your tying the knot has, among other things, brought a post-neo-faux-sock(acrylic) imitator of the late and sometimes lamented Penske Account back to feel a little of the inimitable Lawtalkers Love. Which he has now apparently felt in spades. This alone is reason for tremendous satisfaction and rejoicing in certain quarters, or even entire halves. To cite only one example, Flower's childlike joy is Farve-like.* It's good to see him happy again.

*which is to say his childish joy is Farve-ish. Or something equally redundant.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ironweed

Four more years!

You will note that your tying the knot has, among other things, brought a post-neo-faux-sock(acrylic) imitator of the late and sometimes lamented Penske Account back to feel a little of the inimitable Lawtalkers Love. Which he has now apparently felt in spades. This alone is reason for tremendous satisfaction and rejoicing in certain quarters, or even entire halves. To cite only one example, Flower's childlike joy is Farve-like.* It's good to see him happy again.

*which is to say his childish joy is Farve-ish. Or something equally redundant.

ever think that maybe Penske coming back (with poor spelling, hmmm, i remember a retired sock that spelled poorly, but i don't think it was p., or maybe it was p., but not penske), and maybe flower being more confident are both because slave has been gone. he can be a bit critical at times.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

ever think that maybe Penske coming back (with poor spelling, hmmm, i remember a retired sock that spelled poorly, but i don't think it was p., or maybe it was p., but not penske), and maybe flower being more confident are both because slave has been gone. he can be a bit critical at times.

WHo do you think is more chilling to free expression on these boards - Slave here or Ty on the PB? I am trying to gauge the varying degrees of repression and how much credit to give you for continuing to post under these conditions.

[ltl/fb]

Originally Posted by ironweed

WHo do you think is more chilling to free expression on these boards - Slave here or Ty on the PB? I am trying to gauge the varying degrees of repression and how much credit to give you for continuing to post under these conditions.

Slave on the PB.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

What's different is Kid Rock isn't simply saying that Apple's getting too much of the pie from him. He's saying that everyone else should get more of the pie too, and until they do he's not going to sell to them (this, even though a whole bunch of other musicians apparently are satisfied with their piece of pie).

So in your hypo, Sony would be saying "We think you're getting too good a deal from everyone you deal with--Panasonic, Alpo, Hanes, whoever--so we're not going to sell to you at the price you want. In fact, we resent the fact that you're doing that so successfully, so we're not going to sell to you at all." Sure, that's negotiation, but then so would be "I'm going to burn down your store if you don't give me the deal you want."

The second part of your analogy is so ridiculous, it's not worth responding to.

I think your statement was completely overreaching and now you're just trying to back it up by being ridiculous. Kidd Rock might think Apple is being unfair to everyone, but it is quite clear that no one gives a shit what Kidd Rock thinks, including other artists who overwhelmingly sell their music to Apple. Therefore, his position is to be taken for what it actually is--a failed negotiating ploy. I know that's what it is. You know that's what it is. But if you want to call it socialism, go ahead. You'll just look ridiculous for doing so.

TM

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by ironweed

WHo do you think is more chilling to free expression on these boards - Slave here or Ty on the PB? I am trying to gauge the varying degrees of repression and how much credit to give you for continuing to post under these conditions.

I think that Flower's biting tongue is far more chilling than either Slave's or Ty's dogmatic ravings. I often find myself hitting the delete key instead of posting something for fear I might suffer Flower's wrath. I vote we should all shun him until he turns nicer.

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I think that Flower's biting tongue is far more chilling than either Slave's or Ty's dogmatic ravings. I often find myself hitting the delete key instead of posting something for fear I might suffer Flower's wrath. I vote we should all shun him until he turns nicer.

I'll admit the first seven or eight yellow cards he gave me did sting a bit. But now it's settled into a routine. And isn't shunning sort of . . . socialist?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ironweed

I'll admit the first seven or eight yellow cards he gave me did sting a bit. But now it's settled into a routine. And isn't shunning sort of . . . socialist?

claiming one gets yellow cards is building up an in-group or secret society of people whom Flower feel are worthy of his faux ire. It makes the rest of us feel B-list.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I often find myself hitting the delete key instead of posting something for fear I might suffer Flower's wrath.

You're welcome.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by ironweed

I'll admit the first seven or eight yellow cards he gave me did sting a bit. But now it's settled into a routine. And isn't shunning sort of . . . socialist?

I think it's more Puritan and Mennonite.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

claiming one gets yellow cards is building up an in-group or secret society of people whom Flower feel are worthy of his faux ire. It makes the rest of us feel B-list.

It was a lie, actually. He's never carded me on here.

But -- full disclosure -- we twitter like, non-stop. All the time. Twit. Ter.