Towards A Virtual Williamsburg!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by taxwonk

Get some Aveeno facial scrub. Dermabrasion will have you looking like a burn victim. You're beautiful as you are. I've hacked into Not Bob's webcam feed from your place, so I know whereof I speak.

What hack? He posted the link.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

What hack? He posted the link.

Hey! That's my imaginary little sister you and wonk are talking about. Tread carefully.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

No. Just one person only wanted the group shit that pertained to him. But, whatever.

I'd just delete him from everything.

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

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[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'd just delete him from everything.

TM

2. Drop from group and add to emails as necessary.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

2. Drop from group and add to emails as necessary.

Look, if he's part of the group he's part of the group. Tell him to shut up, read the damn email, and, in all cases, bill his time.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

2. Drop from group and add to emails as necessary.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a client or case/matter specific "official" email address group? The whole point of them is to avoid wasting time thinking about this.

This is not complicated. If you're the designated dower and curtesy person on the MacGillicuddy estate litigation matter, and you dont want to read the emails about the upcoming deposition of the femme fatale mistress on undue influence, don't read them. But you're on the list for a reason. Assuming that the uninteresting emails are about the case (as Icky's post suggested), find something else to bitch about. Like why no one cleans the microwave and who keeps taking the last of the Yoo-Hoos out of the break room fridge.

And if that idiot on the 37th floor is hijacking the status emails to the group by discussing Downton Abbey, click delete or tell him to

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a client or case/matter specific "official" email address group? The whole point of them is to avoid wasting time thinking about this.

This is not complicated. If you're the designated dower and curtesy person on the MacGillicuddy estate litigation matter, and you dont want to read the emails about the upcoming deposition of the femme fatale mistress on undue influence, don't read them. But you're on the list for a reason. Assuming that the uninteresting emails are about the case (as Icky's post suggested), find something else to bitch about. Like why no one cleans the microwave and who keeps taking the last of the Yoo-Hoos out of the break room fridge.

And if that idiot on the 37th floor is hijacking the status emails to the group by discussing Downton Abbey, click delete or tell him to

... cut the crap (i.e. "take it to the ______ Board").

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a client or case/matter specific "official" email address group? The whole point of them is to avoid wasting time thinking about this.

This is not complicated. If you're the designated dower and curtesy person on the MacGillicuddy estate litigation matter, and you dont want to read the emails about the upcoming deposition of the femme fatale mistress on undue influence, don't read them. But you're on the list for a reason. Assuming that the uninteresting emails are about the case (as Icky's post suggested), find something else to bitch about. Like why no one cleans the microwave and who keeps taking the last of the Yoo-Hoos out of the break room fridge.

And if that idiot on the 37th floor is hijacking the status emails to the group by discussing Downton Abbey, click delete or tell him to

I call bullshit. You don't have a 37th floor.

[notcasesensitive]

I may have the opportunity to tag along on a quick trip to these cities this spring. Assuming only a week for both, what are the big must-do's? I'd have nothing but free time, while my companion would have some work meetings (so don't go changing the venues; these are the cities, that part is not negotiable). I know we can fly direct from LA to Shanghai, but it looks like there is no non-stop option between Shanghai and Mumbai. Any preference of Asian airlines (other than my general Cathay preference)? Looks like Air China, Air India, Cathay (Dragonair), Malaysia Airlines are all possibilities...

[Adder]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I may have the opportunity to tag along on a quick trip to these cities this spring. Assuming only a week for both, what are the big must-do's? I'd have nothing but free time, while my companion would have some work meetings (so don't go changing the venues; these are the cities, that part is not negotiable). I know we can fly direct from LA to Shanghai, but it looks like there is no non-stop option between Shanghai and Mumbai. Any preference of Asian airlines (other than my general Cathay preference)? Looks like Air China, Air India, Cathay (Dragonair), Malaysia Airlines are all possibilities...

I haven't got much specific for you, but in the brief time I was there, I quite liked Shanghai. I would have likely liked it more if we had not stayed well out from the center of the city, meaning it was a fairly long cab ride to get to the things you wanted to visit as a tourist (our host works there but is not himself the most interested in exploring).

So I'll just give you the really obvious. Stay in or near the Bund. Visit the Old City and it's environs for the the old China you picture from movies. Visit Xiantiandi for high-end shopping and to feel like you're a in part of Europe built in the 19th century. Check out the People's Square for a weirdly formal garden/park with some surrounding martial architecture. We also visited a Confucian temple, but I can't remember which one or quite were it is (other than being across the street from a school).

We didn't cross the river to Pudong, but that's where all the fancy sky scrapers and the law firms and the like are, so there must be modern stuff over there.

Hopefully the river will not smell too bad when you approach it.

If you want to know where to go shopping for pearls and knock offs, I can both try to remember and get recommendations. Neither will be hard to miss, of course.

ETA: If you do find yourself staying further west toward the airport I can point to to a hole in the wall bar that will play a lot of country music. Not that I have any idea why you would want that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I may have the opportunity to tag along on a quick trip to these cities this spring. Assuming only a week for both, what are the big must-do's? I'd have nothing but free time, while my companion would have some work meetings (so don't go changing the venues; these are the cities, that part is not negotiable). I know we can fly direct from LA to Shanghai, but it looks like there is no non-stop option between Shanghai and Mumbai. Any preference of Asian airlines (other than my general Cathay preference)? Looks like Air China, Air India, Cathay (Dragonair), Malaysia Airlines are all possibilities...

Cathay over Air China. Shanghai wasn't sight seeing so much as just "Wow! This is like being in a sci fi movie." Rapid pace and wild rich malls and buildings next to slums. There is this long ped walkway/shopping area. My favorite memory was running down it each morning and seeing the old Tai Chi people, but then there was a group of 30 really old people doing, as morning exercise, a line dance to Ricky!

PS google/ebay whatever "Cities on Speed," which is a 4 part series on challenges faced by 4 modern cities. It's from Denmark maybe, but just interesting and will give you a feel for Shanghai and probably Mumbai. Each is about a serious problem the city faces (Shanghai- Space Mumbai-Traffic) and also how the "solutions" impact on some normal family. I can email somehow if you can't find it, but it really is a good series.

[J. Fred Muggs]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

I may have the opportunity to tag along on a quick trip to these cities this spring. Assuming only a week for both, what are the big must-do's? I'd have nothing but free time, while my companion would have some work meetings (so don't go changing the venues; these are the cities, that part is not negotiable). I know we can fly direct from LA to Shanghai, but it looks like there is no non-stop option between Shanghai and Mumbai. Any preference of Asian airlines (other than my general Cathay preference)? Looks like Air China, Air India, Cathay (Dragonair), Malaysia Airlines are all possibilities...

Friend says Air India business class is good and good value for money

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by Adder

I haven't got much specific for you, but in the brief time I was there, I quite liked Shanghai. I would have likely liked it more if we had not stayed well out from the center of the city, meaning it was a fairly long cab ride to get to the things you wanted to visit as a tourist (our host works there but is not himself the most interested in exploring).

So I'll just give you the really obvious. Stay in or near the Bund. Visit the Old City and it's environs for the the old China you picture from movies. Visit Xiantiandi for high-end shopping and to feel like you're a in part of Europe built in the 19th century. Check out the People's Square for a weirdly formal garden/park with some surrounding martial architecture. We also visited a Confucian temple, but I can't remember which one or quite were it is (other than being across the street from a school).

We didn't cross the river to Pudong, but that's where all the fancy sky scrapers and the law firms and the like are, so there must be modern stuff over there.

Hopefully the river will not smell too bad when you approach it.

If you want to know where to go shopping for pearls and knock offs, I can both try to remember and get recommendations. Neither will be hard to miss, of course.

ETA: If you do find yourself staying further west toward the airport I can point to to a hole in the wall bar that will play a lot of country music. Not that I have any idea why you would want that.

I've been to Shanghai a couple of times and was not overwhelmed, at least as a place to keep going back to. That said, at least a couple of days can be filled well with things as Adder suggests. I will add going to an acrobatics show, going to Yu Yuan gardens, and the Shanghai Museum. Staying in Xintiandi isn't a bad idea (it's a nice area with some good dining options and a more sophisticated feel), although near the Bund is also convenient. If you have more time a day trip (or overnight) to Hangzhou and/or Suzhou could be worth it. Hangzhou has the famous West Lake, and Suzhou is lots of courtyard gardens (I haven't been to Suzhou). Pudong is probably not worth a trip--you can see the Oriental Pearl from the Bund as well as anywhere--or take a 1 hour river cruise.

If you can, stay near a metro stop--that's as fast a way to get most places as taxis.

And the airport is southeast of town--at least the one you're likely to fly into/out of for international (Shanghai-Pudong/PVG). Shanghai-Hongqiao (SHA) is west of town and mostly domestic flights, plus a mammoth train station (to Hangzhou among other places).

ETA: Having read your original post more carefully, if you have a week in Shanghai, definitely plan to do a day trip to both Hangzhou and Suzhou. High speed rail gets you there in an hour. Get the hotel concierge to buy the tickets--round trip for both so you don't need to deal with buying a ticket to get back (total zoo).

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

2. Drop from group and add to emails as necessary.

Can't drop from group. I guess that's what you get for hiring the handicapped.