"I'm GGG and I approve this message."

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
One in which there's not a black america and a white america

Oh. Which one do you live in?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Oh. Which one do you live in?

I live in a blue state. But maybe in 2009 it will be a United State.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
What exactly is a postracial age?

A glorious utopia in which a black politician can stab another black politician in the back and not be talked of as an Uncle Tom.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
A glorious utopia in which a black politician can stab another black politician in the back and not be talked of as an Uncle Tom.

How are you going to keep Al Sharpton out of that utopia?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How are you going to keep Al Sharpton out of that utopia?

If we interpret "talked of" as meaning "by other than the stabee," there is room for Al Sharpton in my utopian universe.

[Atticus Grinch]

If HRC, Dems lose House and Senate in 2010 midterms.

If BHO, Dems keep House and Senate in 2010.

If JSM, Dems lose House and Senate in 2010.

If WMR or MDH, Dems keep House and gain big in Senate in 2010.

[Diane_Keaton]

If McCain is the candidate: Ann Coulter says she'll campaign for Hillary, Limbaugh says a bunch of stuff and now Reid says, "The thought of him [McCain] being president sends a cold chill down my spine." I'm doubting whether Republicans can recover from this nastiness to back the R candidate and win. If Clinton wins her party's nomination, they might as well schedule Bill for his first dress fitting.

[SlaveNoMore]

Diane_Keaton
If McCain is the candidate: Ann Coulter says she'll campaign for Hillary, Limbaugh says a bunch of stuff and now Reid says, "The thought of him [McCain] being president sends a cold chill down my spine." I'm doubting whether Republicans can recover from this nastiness to back the R candidate and win. If Clinton wins her party's nomination, they might as well schedule Bill for his first dress fitting.

I've said it before - I'll say it again. Hill won't win.

That said - and I'm a bit shocked at how this is playing out - Obama has a legitimate shot.

Here's Podhoretz (the son) on McCain:

Why They Hate McCain

The snowballing anger among conservative opinion leaders toward John McCain — an anger that is not mirrored among Republican rank-and-file, whose approval-disapproval rating for McCain is 72-19, according to the Pew Poll, fifteen points higher than Mitt Romney’s in both categories — suggests they are confusing ideological convictions with political tactics, and infusing a disagreement on how to approach problems with a moral edge it does not deserve.

Whatever John McCain is, he is not a liberal. But he disappoints conservatives because, astonishingly enough, he lacks the Right’s partisan combativeness — which seems surprising, given his background as a warrior and his stiff-necked heroism in staring down his North Vietnamese torturer-jailers. He may be a military man through and through, but he is not a team player, to put it mildly. In partisan terms, he often seems determined not to march in lockstep simply because others expect it of him. That’s why, among other things, he has been so wildly incompetent at using his own perfect pro-life record iin the House and Senate to his own benefit in seeking support from Republicans who share his anti-abortion views. Such a thing would require him to fall in line, and McCain does not fall in line.

These are not words of praise, merely of description. The truth is that this flinty individualism has a profoundly self-destructive aspect to it. He has made his own pathway to the top of his party extremely difficult because he does not wish to play the game the way it needs to be played. He offends people he need not offend, and acts in ways that are considered disrespectful by people who only need him to show them a little kavod. If he becomes the nominee of the GOP, he will be required to mend fences he need not have broken down in the first place.

But his opponents are engaging in a terrible mistake as well. McCain likes to make common cause with politicians across the aisle from him. They can’t stand this. They prefer someone who fights Democrats to someone who makes deals with Democrats. Fair enough. But this is a difference of degree, not of essence. McCain is a deal-maker. Perhaps, having engaged with a real enemy who broke his arms and tortured him and sought to destroy him body and mind and soul, he doesn’t see an enemy when he sees a Democrat but rather just another American whose ideas on many things differ from his but with whom he might share some common ground.

McCain would, there is no question, be a lousy leader of an ideological movement. But the Republican party is not an ideological movement. It is a political vehicle for the American right-of-center. Those who confuse the Republican party with the conservative movement are indulging in a fantasy — that there is purity in politics and that there is something immoral about ideological impurity

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
OK, I'm looking at the winner-take-all tendancy of Republican primaries on Super Tuesday and have come to the conclusion that McCain will become unstoppable on SuperTuesday as long as he breaks 30% of the total vote. At that level, he should win most of the California delegates and all of the New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Arizona delegates, while still taking big chunks in the states that are district-level winner take all (e.g., Georgia) or proportional (Massachusetts).

To stop him, there has to either be a robust 4 candidate race or the Huckster has to drop in time to let Romney really move up in Florida. I'm assuming Fruitcake's fantasies don't come true and Romney doesn't drop to give Huck a clear shot at running from the right.

Congratulations, Republicans - I believe you will choose your candidate before the Democrats.

I hope I am wrong.

Called it.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I've said it before - I'll say it again. Hill won't win. That said - and I'm a bit shocked at how this is playing out - Obama has a legitimate shot.

It's confusing b/c some of the reasons these people hate McCain (he approved of a Pathway to Citizenship, he is not so conservative, etc.) are the only things I like in McCain. I'm not sure how I'd vote if given McCain and Clinton - probably Clinton. But I definitely don't want to vote for Obama (though he obviously has the highest integrity and is likeable) and would prefer Clinton over him.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
It's confusing b/c some of the reasons these people hate McCain (he approved of a Pathway to Citizenship, he is not so conservative, etc.) are the only things I like in McCain. I'm not sure how I'd vote if given McCain and Clinton - probably Clinton. But I definitely don't want to vote for Obama (though he obviously has the highest integrity and is likeable) and would prefer Clinton over him.

watching Obama and Hil speak last night, I was amazed how good he is, and just how completely he kicks her ass, at least when speaking from prepared remarks.

by the time he was done, I started thinking "how about my crooked front tooth? Ain't you going to fix that too once you're President?"

there is a bit of George McGovern in the man, you all just don't have any memory (he spoke at my LS graduation).

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
But I definitely don't want to vote for Obama (though he obviously has the highest integrity and is likeable)

For Spanky's fear that he'd be too effective in implementing a liberal agenda or some other reason?

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
by the time he was done, I started thinking "how about my crooked front tooth? Ain't you going to fix that too once you're President?"

Just ask, Hank, and I'm sure Brother Obama could point you to the appropriate dental coverage in his health-care plan. He's all about the people.

I was somewhat surprised by the results Tuesday, including by how thoroughly Obama cleaned Clinton's clock in about every caucus state. Obama had many more big (%) wins than Hillary.

Before then, I had already basically migrated to Obama -- because I would really like to believe.

He has weaknesses, but I think he also has wisdom and a sense of his weaknesses, and will listen to professionals around him. Anyhow, he has my vote next Tuesday, and I'm opening the wallet. Here goes nothing.

S_A_M

P.S. Romney strikes me as the GOP version of John Kerry, plus executive experience (and minus the military experience). While I like McCain, I almost regret that he will probably be the GOP nominee. He'll make it much harder for us.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
For Spanky's fear that he'd be too effective in implementing a liberal agenda or some other reason?

Foreign policy and approach. But I agree with Hank that he's a great speaker and like I said, he seems to have tremendous integrity. If I voted based on public speaking abilities, it would be a toss-up between Huckabee and Obama. Quite a toss-up.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
If HRC, Dems lose House and Senate in 2010 midterms.

If BHO, Dems keep House and Senate in 2010.

If JSM, Dems lose House and Senate in 2010.

If WMR or MDH, Dems keep House and gain big in Senate in 2010.

I agree on 1 and 2, but I don't see 3. They'll find something to hate about McCain to whip up the base.