I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

I will say that even here in Texas, which is still in the safe column for Trump (unlike Georgia, Utah, and S. Carolina) I have not personally seen a single Trump hat, yard sign, or bumper sticker. That may be because his field operation sucks, or people don't want them, but I have seen many more Bernie stickers. I was tempted to order one of his personalized yard signs that is supposed to say something like The Chick Family supports Trump/Pence, but make it say "Losers and Whiners" instead, but it would have required me to send them money, so I can dream.

OTOH, I have received only positive feedback from my tailgate magnet (as I detest the permanence of stickers) that says Everybody Sucks 2016: The U.S. is Doomed.

I love how in the rabid delusions of Trump supporters on Twitter, Never Trump was a big pathetic nothing burger to be mocked. Now it is Never Trump that is solely to blame for his impending loss. I know that I, personally, have prevented the campaign from establishing field offices and buying adds. So much winning.

I do believe the polls. It doesn't make me happy that Hillary is going to win. But it's survivable.

FYI, Nate Silver says the Dems have about a 1:3 chance of winning Texas. You're trending purple.

After this election, some folks may need to move to Oklahoma.

[Adder]

If you've not read it, America's War for the Greater Middle East, is definitely worth the read.

ETA: Especially if you're at all entertaining the idea that Hillary is no different from the neocons on foreign policy.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Ty - email your buddies Josh and Ezra and find out exactly when this NAMBLA Hit Piece goes live on Journolist 2.0.

Not sure how I got involved in this one, but you can leave me out.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

my tailgate magnet (I detest the permanence of stickers)

2. But I've had a couple of youth-soccer magnets on one car for so long that I'm pretty sure that the paint under them is a different color now.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Adder

Wager for all of the imaginary internet dollars: Trump does not break 35% of the popular vote.

That's a tough bet. Thirty percent of this country is irredeemably fucking racist. The question is, will they vote in proportion?

TM

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

And now Don the Con is hot to have pollwatchers everywhere black folks vote. Yeah, I look forward to seeing them handle the mechanics of getting a couple hundred thousand people in place at polling stations with useful lists, instructions and signs. And an organization in place to supervise them, deal with problems, and route issues to the right place.

Hahaha!

You don't understand that this is just a call to have his bonehead supporters harassing people in minority neighborhoods? You don't need formal organization for that.

TM

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Hahaha!

You don't understand that this is just a call to have his bonehead supporters harassing people in minority neighborhoods? You don't need formal organization for that.

TM

The idea of unorganized boneheads harassing people in minority neighborhoods is much more frightening that the idea of organized boneheads doing the same.

I can see myself now on election day on some flying squad dealing with assholes as they break every law in the books. ("What do you mean I can't ask these people to show they're a citizen before going past?"). I have a strange feeling they'll want me doing street stuff instead of the office work.

Dems are going to need a lot of election day lawyer volunteers.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

The idea of unorganized boneheads harassing people in minority neighborhoods is much more frightening that the idea of organized boneheads doing the same.

I can see myself now on election day on some flying squad dealing with assholes as they break every law in the books. ("What do you mean I can't ask these people to show they're a citizen before going past?"). I have a strange feeling they'll want me doing street stuff instead of the office work.

Dems are going to need a lot of election day lawyer volunteers.

This was an interesting Reddit thread talking about how disorganized the Sanders ground game was compared to Obama 08 and 12. AFAIK, Hillary has all of Obama's main people. I can only imagine what the comparable Trump threads look like. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...z5mx?context=3

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

This was an interesting Reddit thread talking about how disorganized the Sanders ground game was compared to Obama 08 and 12. AFAIK, Hillary has all of Obama's main people. I can only imagine what the comparable Trump threads look like. https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...z5mx?context=3

I believe that because Trump has never created a conventional campaign organization, the RNC has filled that void, but is now weighing redistributing resources to congressional campaigns. If Trump feels betrayed by that move, that could be a lot of fun.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Huh? Nobody was going to investigate the correspondence of the guy who sold the Iraq war to the UN? Or the Secretary of State who presided during it? These people had far more at risk than Hillary. They were in Kissinger territory, being called war criminals by members of foreign govts in the developed world!

Dude, you know I love you like that cousin of mine who doesn't hide the single malt when family arrives (even though he knows that I think that our potato-grubbing ancestors are rolling in their graves because he drinks that pretentious smoky shit), but this is Hillary. Fucking. Clinton. we are talking about.

Rice or Powell having more at risk? Oh, please. As demonstrated by everything from "why is her last name still 'Rodham'?" through "why is she running drugs into Arkansas at a small airport?" to "why did she kill her former law partner Vince Foster?" to "why is her former law partner Web Hubbell taking the fall for her?" to "why is she ordering the Secret Service to decorate the White House Christmas tree with dildo ornaments?" to ... ah, too many to list -- but Google these, please -- anything that HRC does becomes ammunition for her enemies. The irony is that her efforts to protect herself end up hurting her more than the substance of what's out there, but as someone once put it, it ain't paranoia when they really are out to get you.

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I assure you, there's nothing more boring than going through someone else's e-mail.

Yes, in those halcyon days of yore, reviewing emails used to be much more interesting. But even now, at least on occasion, one comes across interesting correspondence which shows that the arrows of Cupid strike unpredictable targets.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by SlaveNoMore

Yes, $1MM to her slush fund.

And $42K to a golf tourney, that was co-sponsored by her Slush Fund.

By disclosing her returns and forcing the "tax" issue, she threw napalm on an existing Clinton Foundation problem.

SlaveNo(BTW - didn't ne'er do well Chelsea get paid close to $900K by such Slush Fund this year?)More

Yes, but you know that about her. You know only what's been leaked about Der Trumper, and you don't know if that's true.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I didn't think its all that depressing.

It confirms what I've always thought - Trump's appeal is heavily to affluent whites entitled whites eager to blame other people (Hi Slave!) not to working class stiffs who are actually singing the blues in today's economy.

That's a much narrower demographic, especially in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan where some thought he'd make a showing.

I don't think that's correct. I think that support for racist, xenophobic candidates is rampant among lower and working class voters. It always has been and always will be. It's just that most of those folks don't vote and they don't take polls. They either have to get back to their shift or they don't really want to hear none of the bullshit.

The author says theses people don't exist. It's not that they don't exist. They just know they don't count and they've given up.

The piece is correct that what is giving Trump legs in primaries and polls is that suddenly rich white people in their rich white enclaves are feeling free to say out loud at the office and the cocktail parties what used to be whispered jokes in the locker room at the club.

[SEC_Chick]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Yes, in those halcyon days of yore, reviewing emails used to be much more interesting. But even now, at least on occasion, one comes across interesting correspondence which shows that the arrows of Cupid strike unpredictable targets.

In around 2001, I was a junior corporate associate during the dot com bust. The firm picked up some major class action litigation and so the corporate associates with extra time and in need of hours all got volunteered for the email review. I would rather put in hours at the printer or put together thousands of secretary's certificates for a closing than review set after set of email. I did come across a few work-inappropriate jokes, but not nearly enough to make it interesting.

Originally Posted by taxwonk

I don't think that's correct. I think that support for racist, xenophobic candidates is rampant among lower and working class voters. It always has been and always will be. It's just that most of those folks don't vote and they don't take polls. They either have to get back to their shift or they don't really want to hear none of the bullshit.

The author says theses people don't exist. It's not that they don't exist. They just know they don't count and they've given up.

The piece is correct that what is giving Trump legs in primaries and polls is that suddenly rich white people in their rich white enclaves are feeling free to say out loud at the office and the cocktail parties what used to be whispered jokes in the locker room at the club.

The worst part of Trump is that he has personified every horrible stereotype that has ever been spoken about Republicans. A year ago I would have argued with my last breath that by and large the Republican party wasn't racist. Now all I can say is that I am no longer a Republican.

[SEC_Chick]

So recall our discussion here about how I considered Hillary to be a hypocrite because she said that every accuser should be believed, after she had actively sought to discredit Bill's victims? As it turns out Hillary has now scrubbed all references to her position that every woman be believed from her website.

So I will concede she is now less of a hypocrite.

(But she is still no friend to women.)