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Old 02-16-2017, 04:11 PM   #3946
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I'm sorry that I don't think about the health care system, preventative care, or providers as much as you do.
Almost as bad as when Ty was arguing with me about HSAs.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:42 PM   #3947
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It's nice to be liked but it's better by far to get paid.

The motto of the GOP's Establisment. And of the House GOP caucus. I think a few Republican senators might disagree, but not enough of them.

The re line is from Liz Phair's "Shitloads of Money." Enjoy.
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Old 02-16-2017, 05:32 PM   #3949
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I'm sorry that I don't think about the health care system, preventative care, or providers as much as you do.
And this is what stabbing someone through the internet looks like.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:54 PM   #3950
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Preventative care helps

a little but is basically like looking out the window to see the weather.

Real diagnostic stuff is expensive. Everything else is an educated guess.
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Old 02-16-2017, 09:38 PM   #3951
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a little but is basically like looking out the window to see the weather.

Real diagnostic stuff is expensive. Everything else is an educated guess.
isn't a yearly physical "preventative care?" Then, your liver issues are high- maybe cut back on the drinking? Or something similar for smoking? Then diagnostic stuff isn't needed?
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a little but is basically like looking out the window to see the weather.

Real diagnostic stuff is expensive. Everything else is an educated guess.
Yup.

And even the real diagnostics only offer guidance. In breast cancer, is it hormone receptive? Is your melanoma Jimmy Carter's variety, or an ultra high mitotic rate death sentence?

I don't have a complete answer to health care. No one does. But GGG refusing to acknowledge I've offered a way to decrease ALL costs (preventative, chronic/catastrophic, and general premiums) does no one any good.
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Old 02-17-2017, 12:43 AM   #3953
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isn't a yearly physical "preventative care?" Then, your liver issues are high- maybe cut back on the drinking? Or something similar for smoking? Then diagnostic stuff isn't needed?
No. Unless you have an enzyme panel done every year. You putting away a fifth every night?
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You need an outside the system fix. HC is a sclerotic mindset. Needs volcanic positive disruption.

...Like 70% of this country.
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The single greatest failure Hillary made was to back off on trade. Overwhelming numbers of Americans support international trade, despite the endless anti-trade tirades.
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You need an outside the system fix. HC is a sclerotic mindset. Needs volcanic positive disruption.

...Like 70% of this country.
Did you really just write the words "volcanic positive disruption"? Slap yourself in the face, you're an embarrassment to yourself and country. And apologize to RT while you are at it.
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Did you really just write the words "volcanic positive disruption"? Slap yourself in the face, you're an embarrassment to yourself and country. And apologize to RT while you are at it.
He is the Susan Sarandon of the Right.

Let RT finish laughing first.
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Did you really just write the words "volcanic positive disruption"? Slap yourself in the face, you're an embarrassment to yourself and country. And apologize to RT while you are at it.
That was regrettable phrasing. I was a bit in the bag, having just arrived home after god only knows how much wine at dinner.

I do apologize for anyone having to read that combination of words. "Significant disruption" is strong enough. No natural disaster imagery is needed.
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He is the Susan Sarandon of the Right.

Let RT finish laughing first.
I think you think I care what you think. Maybe this will clear the air:

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I do not believe that the proponents of such a plan grasp the fact that an Elizabeth Warren candidate probably won't run well in West Virginia, or other states that went for Trump. With a few exceptions, most Tea Party challenges were in pretty safely red states.
The Dems don't need to win West Virginia. They need to get 80,000 more people from Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee and Madison to the polls. That's priority number 1.

After than, if we can compete in West Virginia, then great, but if we focus the party on winning there, we lose.
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