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Old 10-02-2020, 02:32 PM   #3436
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Ten-week old article, bub. The one I linked was from a week ago and pointed to specific case studies where people infected a good part of the plane. Yes, the exposure was premask, but fucking have at it. Icky needs 100% mask usage, zero tolerance for nonmaskers or he's punching someone in the face.
Masks aren't mandated on planes?
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Old 10-02-2020, 02:39 PM   #3437
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Ten-week old article, bub. The one I linked was from a week ago and pointed to specific case studies where people infected a good part of the plane. Yes, the exposure was premask, but fucking have at it. Icky needs 100% mask usage, zero tolerance for nonmaskers or he's punching someone in the face.
Try this one then:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...tm_term=100120

Came out yesterday.

"The risk of contracting coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) during air travel is lower than from an office building, classroom, supermarket, or commuter train."

Do you go to the grocery store? Are you letting your kids go to school?

ETA: these aren't rhetorical questions -- if your answer is "no" to both questions, then I get it. But if it's "yes" to one or both then you are not being logically consistent.
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Old 10-02-2020, 02:40 PM   #3438
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Masks aren't mandated on planes?
They are. My uncle is my aunt if you cut off his balls.
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Old 10-02-2020, 02:45 PM   #3439
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Masks aren't mandated on planes?
Everything I've read is that air circulation in planes is outstanding.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/t...ronavirus-cvd/
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They are. My uncle is my aunt if you cut off his balls.
Your aunt has a sac-less penis?
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Your aunt has a sac-less penis?
I suppose it could just be a giant clitoris.
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I suppose it could just be a giant clitoris.
Now you’re thinking outside the box.
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Old 10-02-2020, 05:25 PM   #3443
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Try this one then:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...tm_term=100120

Came out yesterday.

"The risk of contracting coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) during air travel is lower than from an office building, classroom, supermarket, or commuter train."

Do you go to the grocery store? Are you letting your kids go to school?

ETA: these aren't rhetorical questions -- if your answer is "no" to both questions, then I get it. But if it's "yes" to one or both then you are not being logically consistent.
Besides, my biggest client makes airplane parts so I need people to get on planes.
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Old 10-02-2020, 05:26 PM   #3444
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Everything I've read is that air circulation in planes is outstanding.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/t...ronavirus-cvd/
I am quite familiar with the fuselage air supply systems.
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Old 10-02-2020, 05:42 PM   #3445
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I am quite familiar with the fuselage air supply systems.
This feels like an intro to a moth story.
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Old 10-02-2020, 06:59 PM   #3446
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Try this one then:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...tm_term=100120

Came out yesterday.

"The risk of contracting coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) during air travel is lower than from an office building, classroom, supermarket, or commuter train."

Do you go to the grocery store? Are you letting your kids go to school?

ETA: these aren't rhetorical questions -- if your answer is "no" to both questions, then I get it. But if it's "yes" to one or both then you are not being logically consistent.
Wrong. First, trash, whore piece. Second, what is different in your examples?

1. How long do you go to the grocery store for? Do you move around while in the store? Can you maintain distance from whomever you want, walking away, stopping or taking a different aisle? Can you do that in a plane?

2. My kid is grown but teaches in a school. Mask 100% usage, open windows, lots of moving around. Not ideal though.

3. ETA -- oh look at the affiliations. And holy fuck look at the comments. This reads like a shitty defense whore expert report.

"Brian Cox, MBChB, PhD, FAFPHM | University of Otago
This article appears to contradict a widely reported instance of a 'superspreader' event during air travel:

www.smh.com.au/national/ruby-princess-passengers-on-qantas-flight-infected-at-least-eight-others-20200930-p560no.html"

"Unfortunately, the main safety problem is that on an airline passengers remain in close proximity to each other (often within 2 feet) and they are NOT necessarily required to remain masked during the entire flight. Airlines in fact encourage mask removal by providing food and beverages during most flights of greater than 1-2 hours duration"



4. Agreed, office buildings and commuter rails are trash.
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Masks aren't mandated on planes?
Do people eat? Drink? Is that 100%? Or 95%? Or 90? See above.
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https://www.freep.com/story/news/pol...rs/3596332001/

Oh-oh.
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Do people eat? Drink? Is that 100%? Or 95%? Or 90? See above.
My understanding is no alcohol drinks served. I don't know about really long flights and food, but i suppose there must allow water. But as my son says, as we stood in line w/masks to order at a restaurant, "there are people sitting at a table 6 feet away w/o, why are we?"
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Re: Objectively intelligent.

I am very, very glad that I am not the privacy officer for the Department of Defense.

(I've had to go through this on a much smaller scale before, and it's nerve wracking. Especially the press conferences. But everything about taking care of a high profile patient can be treacherous from the random press inquiries to keeping an eye on your staff to some enterprising soul who wants to get ahead of the story without talking to the patient to the various people who claim to speak for the patient to the people who actually DO speak for the patient. It can be a mess. And a lot of the times, no one bothers to tell the privacy officer important details until it's too late to head something off at the pass. GAH.)
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