Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I have no idea what you two are talking about, so I’ll just make 1 point. “Best” is subjective. My son played HS basketball. Detroit Metro is the second most segregated area in the country. I’ve seen the boy’s basketball team from every HS. Lots are 11 or 10 white kids, maybe 1 or 2 black kids. Or 11 or 12 black kids. My son’s team was 50% each, and the school also diverse with Asians including Middle Eastern, and also economically diverse. That is how I define the “best.”

The best private schools in NY even let some poors in.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

The best private schools in NY even let some poors in.

So Penske can't get a discount?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

So Penske can't get a discount?

No boxed wine at those receptions.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Sounds like the Assad regime might finally be at an end. I have to say I did not see that coming.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Sounds like the Assad regime might finally be at an end. I have to say I did not see that coming.

Very curious what comes next in Syria, hoping it can be a significant improvement.

It is also interesting to see Russia power hit a limit.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Adder

Very curious what comes next in Syria, hoping it can be a significant improvement.

It is also interesting to see Russia power hit a limit.

Was talking to a friend in the State Department yesterday. The regime fell partly because Russia is tapped by the Ukraine conflict and couldn't help, but its fall also weakens Russia further, assuming that the new rulers are less interested in being Russian clients.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Was talking to a friend in the State Department yesterday. The regime fell partly because Russia is tapped by the Ukraine conflict and couldn't help, but its fall also weakens Russia further, assuming that the new rulers are less interested in being Russian clients.

I liked Heather Cox Richardson's breakdown. She suggests that Israel's fights with Iran and Hezbollah also contributed. https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxr...ZF21d4A8xDTUTl

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I liked Heather Cox Richardson's breakdown. She suggests that Israel's fights with Iran and Hezbollah also contributed. https://www.facebook.com/heathercoxr...ZF21d4A8xDTUTl

X thread on what Russia has lost.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I was today years old when I learned about Masnick's Impossibility Theorem.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I was today years old when I learned about Masnick's Impossibility Theorem.

Irrefutable. And yet until I saw it so concisely described, I'd not "learned" it.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

I don't understand what you are suggesting or arguing, so maybe you could explain.

I'm advocating that colleges and universities manage themselves (and their costs and elective expenditures) more efficiently.

I don't see any loss of brand status or perceived ROI among selective private institutions. The selective ones are only getting harder to get into.

An aggregate brand degradation, no, but that does appear probable down the road. What we're seeing here (and yes, of course YMMV) is a calculation, even by families that can easily afford to pay elite private school tuition, that it's just not worth it.

For some reason, as I said, southern and big state schools seem to be attracting kids I'd otherwise expect to be going Lesser Ivies, Patriot League, etc.

Your answer here implies that you think public schools are acting like profit-maximizing businesses in trying to grow, but I thought we just agreed with Scott Galloway that that's not how those administrations are acting.

Galloway also argues that schools are limiting enrollment to goose prestige. I think state schools are doing this now as well.

I grew up in the Northeast and live in California now, and the two areas are dramatically different in attitudes towards public schools. In the East, the best schools are almost all private schools, and the college admissions game is a process of sorting out the status ranking of the various schools and then where you as an applicant fit in that hierarchy. In California, there just aren't that many private schools, and most people are much less hung up on the status significance of the choice. Also, it's much more common to go to a two-year school and then transfer to a UC.

I think the west is a much more healthy environment in this regard. The push to get one's kids into exclusive east coast private schools has created a really coarse environment. When you aim that many avariciously aspirant professionals at the same goal (getting junior into Dartmouth), you get a horrid set of behaviors and an emphasis on gamesmanship. You also create some seriously stressed kids.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

This, coupled with financialization. We exploit kids by convincing them it is okay to borrow against their future earning in ever growing amounts, enriching administration on the back of almost literal children.

When the public paid for public school, that wasn't possible.

The situation is unforgivable. I recall sitting next to a young lawyer about a decade ago, waiting for an argument, and hearing her explain that she was roughly $200k in debt between undergrad and law school.

Today, that number would probably be $250-270k.

This person will be a debt serf for the majority of her most productive years. Kids? A home? These things will be exceedingly painful to even attempt. And for what? A couple bad decisions she made at an age where everyone makes bad decisions.

Higher education's relationship with our student borrowing systems can only be described in the terms most apt, most deserved: Parasitic, opportunistic, and in most instances, fraud in the inducement. The administrations that feed off this trough are worse than subprime and payday lenders, the clutches of whom at least the debtors can escape through bankruptcy if necessary.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I'm advocating that colleges and universities manage themselves (and their costs and elective expenditures) more efficiently.

No one could possibly argue with that.

An aggregate brand degradation, no, but that does appear probable down the road. What we're seeing here (and yes, of course YMMV) is a calculation, even by families that can easily afford to pay elite private school tuition, that it's just not worth it.

For some reason, as I said, southern and big state schools seem to be attracting kids I'd otherwise expect to be going Lesser Ivies, Patriot League, etc.

You say this based on what? There are surely exceptions, but I see the opposite happening.

Galloway also argues that schools are limiting enrollment to goose prestige. I think state schools are doing this now as well.

Overall enrollment is down relative to a few years ago, so less prestigious schools are seeing the effects. But that doesn't mean they are turning people away whom they would have taken.

I think the west is a much more healthy environment in this regard. The push to get one's kids into exclusive east coast private schools has created a really coarse environment. When you aim that many avariciously aspirant professionals at the same goal (getting junior into Dartmouth), you get a horrid set of behaviors and an emphasis on gamesmanship. You also create some seriously stressed kids.

Well, we do have USC out here.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The situation is unforgivable. I recall sitting next to a young lawyer about a decade ago, waiting for an argument, and hearing her explain that she was roughly $200k in debt between undergrad and law school.

Today, that number would probably be $250-270k.

This person will be a debt serf for the majority of her most productive years. Kids? A home? These things will be exceedingly painful to even attempt. And for what? A couple bad decisions she made at an age where everyone makes bad decisions.

Higher education's relationship with our student borrowing systems can only be described in the terms most apt, most deserved: Parasitic, opportunistic, and in most instances, fraud in the inducement. The administrations that feed off this trough are worse than subprime and payday lenders, the clutches of whom at least the debtors can escape through bankruptcy if necessary.

Wow

The folks here who went to NY law school and got two Millie dollar referral checks got life dicked.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

An aggregate brand degradation, no, but that does appear probable down the road. What we're seeing here (and yes, of course YMMV) is a calculation, even by families that can easily afford to pay elite private school tuition, that it's just not worth it.

For some reason, as I said, southern and big state schools seem to be attracting kids I'd otherwise expect to be going Lesser Ivies, Patriot League, etc.



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I live in a bubble, but I'm seeing parents not letting their kids go to southern states due to regressive policies/attitudes. But again, bubble.

But I do agree that there are are many kids who could get into T10 schools who are, for example, going to Illinois (honors program) instead. It's a whole lot cheaper than full pay at Northwestern or U. Chicago.

Edited to add: And I'm still surprised at the amount of east coast families who are willing to send their kids full pay to the LACs. I get that the good LACs apparently carry a lot of water in the northeast, but many people outside of that region have never even heard of them. For example, I had never heard of Williams until about 2 years ago, and it's apparently the top LAC and just as hard to get into as the Ivies.