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[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

The pundits like to focus on wokeness as a cause of Trump's win. That's part of it, of course, but not for the reasons pundits assume. I'd surmise people who are upset with out of touch progressives are also upset with out of touch conservatives. Nobody wants to hear progressive culture nonsense because it's not a solution to any of the problems in the country. No one wants to hear from country club Republicans about how free trade is the answer because that's not a solution, either.

I don't know - it seems like Biden was trying to do something with student loans, which is a huge economic issue for younger generations. Further, Harris at least made proposals to make housing more affordable and to punish companies for price-gouging. People apparently didn't care about these real-world economic issues (or thought the proposed solutions were dumb). Or maybe she never effectively got the message out on these issues.

She should have said she'd make weed legal on a federal level.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Further, Harris at least made proposals to make housing more affordable and to punish companies for price-gouging.

"Made proposals" or "made commercials that said she would?"

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I don't know - it seems like Biden was trying to do something with student loans, which is a huge economic issue for younger generations. Further, Harris at least made proposals to make housing more affordable and to punish companies for price-gouging. People apparently didn't care about these real-world economic issues (or thought the proposed solutions were dumb). Or maybe she never effectively got the message out on these issues.

She should have said she'd make weed legal on a federal level.

How does student loan forgiveness work? It's untenable on its face. If I happen to be a lucky person who comes thru the system while forgiveness is offered, great. But what about the kid who graduates a year or two later?

And why forgive debt as a solution? The problem is with management of the schools. Academia isn't a bastion of shrewd cost-policing CFOs. It's filled with people who've never had to meet a payroll, never been subjected to metrics. And whom all sit above a giant spigot of free money known as the student loan system. It's a candy-land of opportunists and fiscal illiterates.

Idk about the weed thing making a difference. Weed is so ubiquitous it's basically de facto legal everywhere. Even Trump is supports its legality. (The bro vote would not countenance deviation.)

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

"Made proposals" or "made commercials that said she would?"

Yes.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

And why forgive debt as a solution?

Because the government uses it as a solution all the time?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I don't know - it seems like Biden was trying to do something with student loans, which is a huge economic issue for younger generations. Further, Harris at least made proposals to make housing more affordable and to punish companies for price-gouging. People apparently didn't care about these real-world economic issues (or thought the proposed solutions were dumb). Or maybe she never effectively got the message out on these issues.

She should have said she'd make weed legal on a federal level.

She did: https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1853195722864132590

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

She did: https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1853195722864132590

I saw a gazillion Harris commercials. Never saw that mentioned.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I saw a gazillion Harris commercials. Never saw that mentioned.

If you look at the date of the tweet, it was very late in the campaign. I think they realized the Joe Rogan demo was bigger than they thought and were trying to make up for not reaching out earlier to the potheads.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

If you look at the date of the tweet, it was very late in the campaign. I think they realized the Joe Rogan demo was bigger than they thought and were trying to make up for not reaching out earlier to the potheads.

I doubt it'd have made a difference. Ty's earlier post is best explanation - this was the product of a confluence of numerous issues, desires, and events some of which would seem to contradict or work against each other.

The reason du jour is Harris' voters stayed home. On the math, yeah, 11 million Joe voters didn't vote for her. But that assumes they'd have voted for Joe, or a candidate like him, if offered. If one looks at the polling, however, she was far more popular than Joe. If Joe had stayed in the race, that basket of lost voters might've been 15 million or more.

Also, in 2020 people had nothing better to do than vote, as we'd been in a pandemic. This time around, people weren't stuck in their homes with endless time on their hands.

I am, however, shocked that the bro vote actually materialized. Even R strategists believed that demographic would no-show.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

Because the government uses it as a solution all the time?

In bankruptcy, yes. But wholesale debt forgiveness is a new thing. It's a jubilee - the ultimate "moral hazard" according to ardent capitalists.

I also forgot to note, how can one assume it's tenable to give away that much cash to people who chose the higher education route while giving nothing commensurate to those who didn't? A guy who went to trade school, got an HVAC certificate, and took out bank loans to start his contracting business should then also get the same equivalent benefit from the government.

But those people were not on the radar of the architects of Democratic policy.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

In bankruptcy, yes. But wholesale debt forgiveness is a new thing. It's a jubilee - the ultimate "moral hazard" according to ardent capitalists.

I also forgot to note, how can one assume it's tenable to give away that much cash to people who chose the higher education route while giving nothing commensurate to those who didn't? A guy who went to trade school, got an HVAC certificate, and took out bank loans to start his contracting business should then also get the same equivalent benefit from the government.

But those people were not on the radar of the architects of Democratic policy.

Harris tried to reach out to the non-traditional education route people too.

Free community college has been a Democratic policy priority for at least two presidential cycles. I don't know about where you live, but here, Houston Community College is the route to a lot of the trade and health certifications.

From the platform:

Four year college is not the only pathway to a good career, so Democrats are investing in
other forms of education as well, including career and technical education. The
Administration is expanding job training partnerships that connect high schools, local
businesses, and labor unions to prepare students for good jobs in high-skill, high-wage, and
in-demand industries. It’ll make trade school and community college free for every
American. And it’s making record investments in registered apprenticeships – which already
train more than one million Americans a year across industries, including cutting-edge
industries. Some 90 percent of them stay on as full hires, earning an average starting salary
of $80,000 a year. That’s a path to the middle class that families can count on

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

In bankruptcy, yes. But wholesale debt forgiveness is a new thing. It's a jubilee - the ultimate "moral hazard" according to ardent capitalists.

The government bails out businesses all the time, e.g., banks, airlines. Why can't it bailout taxpayers? As George Will described the bailouts: “Here comes capitalism without risk: profits private, losses socialized.”

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

The government bails out businesses all the time, e.g., banks, airlines. Why can't it bailout taxpayers? As George Will described the bailouts: “Here comes capitalism without risk: profits private, losses socialized.”

Well we need banks and airlines. Art history majors, not so much.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Well we need banks and airlines. Art history majors, not so much.

I majored in art history. And look at me now. I'm very wealthy. Full head of hair. Young and spry.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

But wholesale debt forgiveness is a new thing. It's a jubilee

Strange how we have a word specifically for an entirely new thing.