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Old 11-04-2014, 06:12 PM   #1
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Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.

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What's to discuss? Yes.

Or, maybe not satan, just a rich white guy* who is sure that it's the natural state of things for everything to favor people like him.

* don't give me that Latino bullshit. He's no more Latino than romney.
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Quoting Ty: "Most Americans want consensus and bipartisan agreement. Conservatives do not."

And he knows that I showed him what standard Dem voters said in Michigan, and he knows how he looks at the world. He is absurd.
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the smartest thing i heard yesterday (and it was something I said here in maybe 2006 or so) was Robin Quivers who noted that both parties seem to forget that the public didn't just vote for them, the public just voted against the other guys. then they govern like the country just moved to them, then the public votes against them.
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A lot of times, people confuse Faustus and Mephistopheles. Faustus may have sold his soul, but he can still have regrets, he can still understand the errors of his ways, he can still see that he has traded Paradise for mere baubles, for a vision of a succubus as Helen and a few lauds and laurels in the temporal world. It is important not to mistake the Faustus' of the world, for whom there may still be some hope of repentance and redemption, from the raw, unyielding evil of Mephisto, but it happens all the time.

This is not one of those times.
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the smartest thing i heard yesterday (and it was something I said here in maybe 2006 or so) was Robin Quivers who noted that both parties seem to forget that the public didn't just vote for them, the public just voted against the other guys. then they govern like the country just moved to them, then the public votes against them.
The Steinbrenner Electorate. In two years, they'll throw out a whole bunch more.

Only difference between them and George being, George eventually found winners. All Joe Sixpack voter will ever have is a form of lottery ticket... the illusory hope, as he pulls the lever like a one armed bandit at the casino, a miracle may be at hand.
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Ty:
"Many conservatives feel that they are losing their country to cosmopolitans and blacks and Hispanics. And they are. Demographically and culturally, they are losing. And they know it. No bridging that gap."
True, but that doesn't explain last night. This vote was all about the economy. Almost every poll confirmed this fact.

The Democratic Senate has been in power during a time of Main Street economic malaise. So Main Street threw them out. If the GOP fucks it up over the next 24 months, which they will because the economic problems we face are beyond political control, they'll lose seats.
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"Many conservatives feel that they are losing their country to cosmopolitans and blacks and Hispanics. And they are. Demographically and culturally, they are losing. And they know it. No bridging that gap."
True, but that doesn't explain last night. This vote was all about the economy. Almost every poll confirmed this fact.

The Democratic Senate has been in power during a time of Main Street economic malaise. So Main Street threw them out. If the GOP fucks it up over the next 24 months, which they will because the economic problems we face are beyond political control, they'll lose seats.
Bullshit. Last night was all about what happens when you shrink the electorate by taking away less engaged voters - who skew younger, poorer and more diverse - and have a vote among a more concentrated group of older, whiter, richer voters.
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"Many conservatives feel that they are losing their country to cosmopolitans and blacks and Hispanics. And they are. Demographically and culturally, they are losing. And they know it. No bridging that gap."
True, but that doesn't explain last night. This vote was all about the economy. Almost every poll confirmed this fact.

The Democratic Senate has been in power during a time of Main Street economic malaise. So Main Street threw them out. If the GOP fucks it up over the next 24 months, which they will because the economic problems we face are beyond political control, they'll lose seats.
Interesting. Do you have a cite on those polls?

The economy is actually doing reasonably well. Unemployment is below 6%, the stock market is hot, business profits are at unusually high levels. Massachusetts is doing phenomenally well on both an absolute and a relative basis, yet it elected a Republican governor. My read is that dissatisfaction is there but less focused on any one item or issue. A sort of incessant grumbling rather than a focused rage.

The economy is always a major driver, but my read is that it was not relatively critical, and if anything played less of a role than usual.
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Bullshit. Last night was all about what happens when you shrink the electorate by taking away less engaged voters - who skew younger, poorer and more diverse - and have a vote among a more concentrated group of older, whiter, richer voters.
Also more male voters. The shifts between male and female voters were fascinating, some states had very heavy male turnout, others had stronger female turnout.

And also less lunatic candidates. The Republican establishment's huge expenditures early in the cycle to beat tea party candidates paid off. That was a big change from the last time. Reagan's rule of not criticizing a fellow Republican is dead; unless it's starting to live in the Democratic party.
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Bullshit. Last night was all about what happens when you shrink the electorate by taking away less engaged voters - who skew younger, poorer and more diverse - and have a vote among a more concentrated group of older, whiter, richer voters.
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A lot of times, people confuse Faustus and Mephistopheles. Faustus may have sold his soul, but he can still have regrets, he can still understand the errors of his ways, he can still see that he has traded Paradise for mere baubles, for a vision of a succubus as Helen and a few lauds and laurels in the temporal world. It is important not to mistake the Faustus' of the world, for whom there may still be some hope of repentance and redemption, from the raw, unyielding evil of Mephisto, but it happens all the time.

This is not one of those times.
B'xactly.
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