We are all Slave now.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

...Feel the breeze.

it was meta.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

You asked me for a decent outline of Lukainoff's and Haidt's book. I offered what I thought were decent ones which covered the main arguments of the book. Here's a much better one: https://quillette.com/2018/10/14/mor...oned-critique/

Pardon the framing of the piece, to the extent it responds to a less than stellar critique of the book by someone named Weigel. I think it still gets the outlined main ideas of the book across.

Nothing in that review -- the brief description of the big ideas in the book, the critique by this Weigel person, the response to the critique -- says anything useful, as far as I can tell. The Great Untruths are hard to argue with, but the idea that they capture something important about the way some set of people is thinking -- that seems silly.

In the book, we outline three misguided principles (“Great Untruths”) that form the foundation of the new moral culture we are seeing on some college campuses:

The Untruth of Fragility: What doesn’t kill you makes you weaker.
The Untruth of Emotional Reasoning: Always trust your feelings.
The Untruth of Us Versus Them: Life is a battle between good people and evil people.

We also trace six explanatory threads—cultural trends and practices that explain why this new moral culture, which we call “safetyism,” seemed to emerge so rapidly between 2013 and 2015:

Rising teen depression and anxiety.
The damaging effects of overprotection and social media.
The loss of play in childhood.
The polarization of the country.
New ideas about justice.
The bureaucratization of higher education.

It's not that any of this is wrong, it's that it feels manufactured and irrelevant.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

it was meta.

I'd analogize it to Dave Parker flailing at a slider and falling down on home plate.

(Maybe that's a bit harsh.)

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Heh.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Heh.

so? that's like me confusing GGG and Sgt. Club. Maybe I should know the difference, but also rans in my dusty rearview all look the same.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

so? that's like me confusing GGG and Sgt. Club. Maybe I should know the difference, but also rans in my dusty rearview all look the same.

He thought the Canadians burned the White House: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44394156

And he thinks if you exercise, you shorten your life by expending more quickly a finite store of energy: https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/polit...ise/index.html

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

And he thinks if you exercise, you shorten your life by expending more quickly a finite store of energy: https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/polit...ise/index.html

I've heard T say basically the exact same thing to explain the weight gain; first connection we can make to tie him to Trump's bandwagon?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I've heard T say basically the exact same thing to explain the weight gain; first connection we can make to tie him to Trump's bandwagon?

Maybe it's me, but I really don't get your sense of humor. I don't even know what this means.

TM

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Maybe it's me, but I really don't get your sense of humor. I don't even know what this means.

TM

It isn't you.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

It isn't you.

I’m an enigma?

[Hank Chinaski]

I was musing that one could tie Andy Kaufman to President Trump, like maybe Andy IS alive? I googled to see if they have ever been photographed together- no photos, but Newsweek had published the same riff a few years ago. I do IP- I know nothing is ever 100% new, still it hurts to see this was derivative.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I was musing that one could tie Andy Kaufman to President Trump, like maybe Andy IS alive? I googled to see if they have ever been photographed together- no photos, but Newsweek had published the same riff a few years ago. I do IP- I know nothing is ever 100% new, still it hurts to see this was derivative.

Have you tried using “Tony Clifton”? That’d be the alter ego suited to a meeting with Trump, no?

I think Tony even loved pro wrestling.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

It isn't you.

Srsly? How could you both miss that joke?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Good for Fox News for supporting CNN's lawsuit over Acosta.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Among the three-fourths of Americans who are NOT white evangelicals, Democrats won 66/32.

https://twitter.com/ed_kilgore/statu...20439817252864