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Old 08-14-2018, 09:44 AM   #2296
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This is exactly what I'm saying.
Nice. But fair. I fucked that up.

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Old 08-14-2018, 09:59 AM   #2297
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Nice. But fair. I fucked that up.

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Sebby, There are very, very few conservatives who go into academics, with the exception of a few disciplines that tend to be homes to a lot of them, like economics. And this makes sense: most of them would prefer to get rich, and subscribe to a philosophy where getting rich is an innate good, where teaching youngsters is for suckers. For every seat that opens in a history department, there will be four Marxist applications, a half dozen traditional liberals, a couple Democratic socialists, a few applicants from abroad, and, every blue moon, a conservative. So, yes, there are many fewer idiots in tenure track positions on the left in academe (at least proportionately) because they have to compete for seats, where a conservative with half a pulse will find a seat. Indeed, if you go looking for, say, American history books by conservatives in the last three quarters of a century, you don't find very many good ones (probably the highest quality works are by Eugene Genovese and Elizabeth Fox-Genovese, both Marxists who turned to conservatism later in life under the influence of conservative Catholicism).

By the way, conservatives are also highly favored in undergrad admissions. The next time you write a recommendation, throw in a line about the kids conservative politics, see how fast he or she gets accepted to a reach school.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:49 AM   #2298
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The only crime the general would be on trial for at Nuremberg would be the killing of the Romany person.

He couldn’t be charged with the preceding impacts of local bigotries on that person’s life.
Because the situation of the victims in society is not relevant to the general's crime.

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Identically, using my hypothetical, which is more appropriate, if that general had merely imprisoned the two Romany brothers, and was caught 30 years later, and the claim were brought at that at that point, that the general was entirely culpable for all the disadvantages the fisherman brother suffered, the general’s culpability would be mitigated to the extent superseding causes (fisherman's own subsequent choices) contributed to his disadvantages.
Like a true defense lawyer here, your objective seems to be minimizing the extent to which any individual perpetrator can be held responsible for the lousy situation of his victim. You are not trying to find a way to make the victim whole. Fair?

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And, in any logical forum, where a person’s (or group’s, if we’re throwing rigor and care out the window) situation is alleged to be exclusively or near exclusively the result of outside forces, there will always be an offset against that charge to the extent personal responsibility comes into play.
"There will be always be an offset." When? What is the point of this whole intellectual exercise? There is never a case ("a logical forum") where a group is put to the test you describe?
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:50 AM   #2299
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Ty, if you want to see “narrative creation” and “fact shading,” this is it. This is a perfect MSNBC/Fox talking point. (Just reverse it for Fox.)

Now, academia being littered at least 5:1 with liberal and progressive idiots versus conservative idiots, the example cited is cherry picked to make a point suiting the speaker’s incorrigible bias. Harvard of course has some conservative morons, but does anyone doubt the # of conservative morons is significantly higher?

And yet they are cited, transparently, as though they’re the majority of idiots. Nevermind the armies of liberal idiots at Harvard (or any decent school) who dwarf them.

This is j.v. shit, and I’m slumming to flag it. But this is “narrative creaton.” Fox-style anti-factual narrative creation.

There’s no false equivalence. What GGG did is only transparent if your IQ gets to triple digits. That’s a thin slice of Fox’s demographic. So Fox is far more blunt and embarrassing in the way it does this same thing, as the bar for getting away with it is incredibly low. But it’s all on the same continuum of bullshit.
From what I know, GGG is not making this up out of whole cloth.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:51 AM   #2300
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For someone who doesn’t know what I’m saying, you’re doing a great job of offering the responses of someone who exactly gets my points and endeavors to counter them.
Contrarily, you keep ignoring many of my questions and points, because they show that the whole concept is nonsense.
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Re: We are all Slave now.

Today i must pass on my moniker. I hoped to move the Ty in this time frame with my work here, make him as smart as me, but earlier than I got there. But I had the opposite effect. this time's Ty is as fuzzy brained as he was, and had none of the growing up that i enjoyed. I was smart enough to get on team trump early, and have a great cabinet position. President Trump let me enter one of the codes the second time we bombed a country. I'm somebody, not the nobody this Ty remained. And he can only blame me. Today today's ty turns 50. I retire now, hoping Ty w/o me, can grow up. Maybe be a second term cabinet member.
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Today i must pass on my moniker. I hoped to move the Ty in this time frame with my work here, make him as smart as me, but earlier than I got there. But I had the opposite effect. this time's Ty is as fuzzy brained as he was, and had none of the growing up that i enjoyed. I was smart enough to get on team trump early, and have a great cabinet position. President Trump let me enter one of the codes the second time we bombed a country. I'm somebody, not the nobody this Ty remained. And he can only blame me. Today today's ty turns 50. I retire now, hoping Ty w/o me, can grow up. Maybe be a second term cabinet member.
Don't go! Soon you'll seem young and sprightly.
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Re: We are all Slave now.

It's remarkable that people in government positions of importance who should know better do not seem to understand the First Amendment.
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Aww, jeezzz, this is the Ty raising my/his kids in this time wrinkle and he earns his living as a lawyer, and his education is so shaky that he doesn’t get the 1st isn’t absolute especially when applied against minors. I haven’t looked at this time’s Ty: is he a Cooley or Florida Coastal grad?
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