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01-24-2018, 05:14 PM
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#4081
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
Hypothesis: High-profile bipartisan deals are impossible in Congress, because Republicans will object to agreeing with Democrats on any issue that receives much of any attention.
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01-24-2018, 05:19 PM
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#4082
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Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Hypothesis: High-profile bipartisan deals are impossible in Congress, because Republicans will object to agreeing with Democrats on any issue that receives much of any attention.
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The highest profile bipartisan legislation in recent times was TPP in Obama's last year.
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01-24-2018, 06:45 PM
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#4083
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Re: I have questions....
Has the NRA declared January to be National School Shooting Month or something?
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01-24-2018, 07:38 PM
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#4084
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/n...n-resigns.html this really bothers me. my kids grew up loving grandma. Are males with power who do not abuse that power, like 10%?
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01-24-2018, 07:39 PM
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#4085
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Proud Holder-Post 200,000
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Re: I have questions....
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Has the NRA declared January to be National School Shooting Month or something?
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what today?
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01-25-2018, 10:00 AM
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#4086
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Location: Monty Capuletti's gazebo
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski
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This is like one of those super-weird story headlines HST would randomly throw between text in F&L.
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01-25-2018, 10:05 AM
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#4087
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Expect the Rs to work hard to fire up their base between now and then. Putin will lend a hand, too.
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They’re all in on #releasethememo, but I see no traction.
And fuck them for politicizing that issue. There is nothing more important in the world than protecting people from govt invasion of privacy and domestic spying. The rest of everything is immaterial if we don’t have a handle on those basic freedoms. And now no one will believe anything reported about the subject, incriminating or exonerating.
What’s the SNL line? “Does it even matter anymore?” Probably not.
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01-25-2018, 11:12 AM
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#4088
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
They’re all in on #releasethememo, but I see no traction.
And fuck them for politicizing that issue. There is nothing more important in the world than protecting people from govt invasion of privacy and domestic spying. The rest of everything is immaterial if we don’t have a handle on those basic freedoms. And now no one will believe anything reported about the subject, incriminating or exonerating.
What’s the SNL line? “Does it even matter anymore?” Probably not.
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OMG!! The Secret Society has shipped all our uranium to Benghazi!! By email!!
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01-25-2018, 11:53 AM
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Re: With a Lack of Vision Everybody Wants to Rule the World
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01-25-2018, 12:02 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
Meanwhile, it looks like the Senate Dems aren't even waiting for the next CR to abandon the Dreamers.
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01-25-2018, 01:07 PM
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#4091
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Adder
Meanwhile, it looks like the Senate Dems aren't even waiting for the next CR to abandon the Dreamers.
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I would be interested to hear your plan for saving the Dreamers.
eta: Right now, my understanding is that it's
1. Congressional Democrats adopt The Adder Strategy (tm) to win the daily news cycle
2. ?????
3. Dreamers saved!!!!
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01-25-2018, 01:43 PM
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#4092
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I would be interested to hear your plan for saving the Dreamers.
eta: Right now, my understanding is that it's
1. Congressional Democrats adopt The Adder Strategy (tm) to win the daily news cycle
2. ?????
3. Dreamers saved!!!!
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What's the Senate Dems plan? Do they have one?
Mine was to at minimum take a firm stand for them. Even if it doesn't work, you're demonstrating your values, which helps electorally, which may help you get get enough seats to actually do something in 2019.
They half-assed that and now are signalling that the Dreamers are not a condition for a budget deal. What's the path for help for the Dreamers there? Hope the GOP majority is thankful we didn't press them too hard so they'll do us a favor?
I know, you think if we pretend we don't want it maybe the GOP will, but they aren't going to.
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01-25-2018, 01:59 PM
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#4093
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Adder
What's the Senate Dems plan? Do they have one?
Mine was to at minimum take a firm stand for them. Even if it doesn't work, you're demonstrating your values, which helps electorally, which may help you get get enough seats to actually do something in 2019.
They half-assed that and now are signalling that the Dreamers are not a condition for a budget deal. What's the path for help for the Dreamers there? Hope the GOP majority is thankful we didn't press them too hard so they'll do us a favor?
I know, you think if we pretend we don't want it maybe the GOP will, but they aren't going to.
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I see -- you don't have a plan either.
Being the minority sucks if you want to change things.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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01-25-2018, 02:09 PM
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#4094
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I see -- you don't have a plan either.
Being the minority sucks if you want to change things.
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Maybe if everyone just refuses to breath until we get what we want?
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01-25-2018, 02:19 PM
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#4095
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I see -- you don't have a plan either.
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Yes, holding on for a longer shutdown and using that either to get to a vote or win more elections is exactly as little a plan as giving away the only leverage you had.
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Being the minority sucks if you want to change things.
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Especially if you're as spineless as the Senate Dems who aren't running for president.
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