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05-11-2017, 01:22 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Lots of big words.
My own psychoanalytical construct of Trump's gestalt is that he's a fuckin asshole, and probably a bitter senile old coot, too.
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05-11-2017, 07:41 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Lots of big words.
My own psychoanalytical construct of Trump's gestalt is that he's a fuckin asshole, and probably a bitter senile old coot, too.
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Buy a lottery ticket. You and I agree entirely here.
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05-12-2017, 10:43 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Lots of big words.
My own psychoanalytical construct of Trump's gestalt is that he's a fuckin asshole, and probably a bitter senile old coot, too.
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I never want to hear the words "women are too emotional to be _____ " again.
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05-12-2017, 11:15 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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I never want to hear the words "women are too emotional to be _____ " again.
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To put a gloss on that, becoming a man in my 50s has led me to a realization as I watch some of my friends dealing with divorces, mid-life crises, etc. Which is that adolescent boys are not the most dangerously hormone addled males out there.
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05-14-2017, 10:34 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
Contra to my assertion that racism is about ignorance, Gene Denny pointing out it's about power: https://twitter.com/geedee215/status/862865685713739776
Might be both though.
The Blood of Emmett Till was highly educational in that regard.
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05-15-2017, 09:26 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
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To put a gloss on that, becoming a man in my 50s has led me to a realization as I watch some of my friends dealing with divorces, mid-life crises, etc. Which is that adolescent boys are not the most dangerously hormone addled males out there.
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In many regards (not all, but a lot of them), men are merely "brought to heel." Being compelled to suppress, and to act within certain dictates society has decided will provide "stability" is a far different thing than willingly and happily agreeing to do so (aka, maturing, or "growing").
Men are to a great degree frozen at age 18-25.
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05-15-2017, 10:36 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
In many regards (not all, but a lot of them), men are merely "brought to heel." Being compelled to suppress, and to act within certain dictates society has decided will provide "stability" is a far different thing than willingly and happily agreeing to do so (aka, maturing, or "growing").
Men are to a great degree frozen at age 18-25.
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You're not going to like this: this is male privilege.
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05-15-2017, 11:37 AM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Adder
You're not going to like this: this is male privilege.
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Yes... Indeed. Being constrained by societal structures to refrain from indulging natural impulses and desires is quite the privilege.
By the way, this would fit under "everybody's privilege," as it does not apply solely to males. (In fact, such a conclusion might qualify as pretty sexist... or at least quite narrow minded.) Women, men, all races, all ethnicities, all sexualities -- we are all to some extent imprisoned by certain artificial social norms. I only spoke for men because that's the sole perspective from which I could offer first hand knowledge. My strong suspicion (I'd almost guarantee this) is women are just as much compelled to suppress themselves, and would rather live quite differently in many regards (or at least from time to time).
We're all closet hedonists constrained by risk/reward and comfort/excitement calculations. I'm not sure I can call it a cruel life in this regard, but I know "privileged" doesn't fit.
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05-15-2017, 12:05 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Yes... Indeed. Being constrained by societal structures to refrain from indulging natural impulses and desires is quite the privilege.
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Being able to be frozen in place as a young adult in your heart of hearts is totally a privilege.
Also, you're constrained by the judgment of others, not actual threats of violence.
Also, you're characterizing immature impulses and desires as though they're "natural" or the "real you." Yeah.
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My strong suspicion (I'd almost guarantee this) is women are just as much compelled to suppress themselves, and would rather live quite differently in many regards (or at least from time to time).
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Yes, because men will do violence and rape to them. In addition to those terrible societal pressures you have to deal with.
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We're all closet hedonists constrained by risk/reward and comfort/excitement calculations.
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Your privilege is in the much shorter list of risks and their generally smaller magnitude.
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