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06-02-2015, 08:00 PM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
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I thought about it, but reviews were not entirely kind.
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2. But I'll probably give it a go at some point.
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I'm going on a long vacation next week and expect to have lots of time to sit on a beach and read books. Suggestions? It's a good time to tackle something big.
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I just started reading A God In Ruins, Kate Atkinson's follow-up to Life After Life (which I loved). The new one doesn't use the same device (retelling the same story with new outcomes over and over again) but sticks with the same family. I love her writing, so I think I'll love this one too, but I'll report back...
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07-13-2015, 09:41 AM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
One of the writers on Bookriot says the greatest tragedy of To Kill a Mockingbird is that it is necessary: white Americans only believe in racism as told through white eyes.
So now we know Finch himself is deeply racist. Time to go read Richard Wright and Ralph Ellison?
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07-13-2015, 12:19 PM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
One of the writers on Bookriot says the greatest tragedy of To Kill a Mockingbird is that it is necessary: white Americans only believe in racism as told through white eyes.
So now we know Finch himself is deeply racist. Time to go read Richard Wright and Ralph Ellison?
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Art is art, how is any novel necessary? And America learned of racism in the south through television camera eyes, not a novel about an incident in the 1920s.
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07-13-2015, 01:21 PM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
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Art is art, how is any novel necessary? And America learned of racism in the south through television camera eyes, not a novel about an incident in the 1920s.
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I think there are no shortage of white kids for whom TKAM is a seminal intellectual confrontation with racism. The book has done a lot of good in this world, which is the sense I think she meant "necessary" in - a book that was needed because of problems we have as a culture.
I think the new book sounds interesting, and it doesn't surprise me Finch is a racist at all from the first book. I've pre-ordered the audio book version to listen to on a long drive. But I thought the post I referenced raised an interesting question: is it better to have that intellectual confrontation with racism through a Native Son or Invisible Man (both of which also strike me as better books from a literary perspective) rather than a TKAM?
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07-13-2015, 01:31 PM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I think there are no shortage of white kids for whom TKAM is a seminal intellectual confrontation with racism. The book has done a lot of good in this world, which is the sense I think she meant "necessary" in - a book that was needed because of problems we have as a culture.
I think the new book sounds interesting, and it doesn't surprise me Finch is a racist at all from the first book. I've pre-ordered the audio book version to listen to on a long drive. But I thought the post I referenced raised an interesting question: is it better to have that intellectual confrontation with racism through a Native Son or Invisible Man (both of which also strike me as better books from a literary perspective) rather than a TKAM?
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One can read them all can't one?
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07-13-2015, 02:57 PM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
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2. But I'll probably give it a go at some point.
I just started reading A God In Ruins, Kate Atkinson's follow-up to Life After Life (which I loved). The new one doesn't use the same device (retelling the same story with new outcomes over and over again) but sticks with the same family. I love her writing, so I think I'll love this one too, but I'll report back...
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Ms. Slothrop brought that with her on the vacation, but never opened it. I'd like to read it too, having enjoyed other Atkinson stuff.
In the event, I decided to read the Odyssey, and I really enjoyed it. I read the Fagles translation. Before I read it, I read a little book called The World of Odysseus, about what one can or can't draw from the Odyssey about Greek history, and after I finished I read a terrific book called Homeric Moments, which pointed out a lot of things I had missed. The whole package was a lot of fun (and highly appropriate if one is looking at the Aegean).
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07-13-2015, 03:00 PM
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listening to the lower frequencies
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I think the new book sounds interesting, and it doesn't surprise me Finch is a racist at all from the first book. I've pre-ordered the audio book version to listen to on a long drive. But I thought the post I referenced raised an interesting question: is it better to have that intellectual confrontation with racism through a Native Son or Invisible Man (both of which also strike me as better books from a literary perspective) rather than a TKAM?
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I loved Invisible Man, but it's more difficult book than TKAM is, so less accessible to many of the people who read the latter.
I haven't read any Toni Morrison, but maybe she belongs on your list with Wright and Ellison?
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07-15-2015, 04:11 PM
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Re: Books, Books, Books - Reading is FUNdamental
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