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[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Never been to Brisbane. Really good food in Sydney but the last time I was there it was incredibly expensive. Anyone could make a ton of money working at a mine drilling minerals for the Chinese, which drove prices up. This may have cooled off. When I go for work, I stay near The Rocks, which is not the most interesting part of town -- go farther afield. Take a ferry somewhere and back.

Auckland was pretty cool when I was there almost two decades ago, but it's very spread out -- a hard place to see on foot.

Brisbane has a great food and walking scene. If you can find the time, go down to Byron Bay. It is Australia's Santa Cruz. You can skip the Gold Coast unless you love Florida's miles and miles of beach-front retirement condos.

Auckland is cool too. It is spreadout, but there is a circle loop bus that goes everywhere you want to go and works for sightseeing too. Depending upon your weather, a good day trip is wine tasting on the island just off the city.

Sydney is Sydney.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

Brisbane has a great food and walking scene. If you can find the time, go down to Byron Bay. It is Australia's Santa Cruz. You can skip the Gold Coast unless you love Florida's miles and miles of beach-front retirement condos.

Auckland is cool too. It is spreadout, but there is a circle loop bus that goes everywhere you want to go and works for sightseeing too. Depending upon your weather, a good day trip is wine tasting on the island just off the city.

Sydney is Sydney.

Thanks! I'm considering renting a car in Auckland and doing a 3 night (self-guided) tour including stops in Hamilton, Rotorua and Lake Taupo (basically the first three days of this itinerary). My sister wants to see the glow worms and I'd like to see snowcapped mountains, thermal springs and such. I think if we did that, our first three nights would be this tour and our fourth night would be in Auckland. Seem doable? Seem worth it? Or would you stay in Auckland with just a day trip to the worm caves?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally Posted by notcasesensitive

Thanks! I'm considering renting a car in Auckland and doing a 3 night (self-guided) tour including stops in Hamilton, Rotorua and Lake Taupo (basically the first three days of this itinerary). My sister wants to see the glow worms and I'd like to see snowcapped mountains, thermal springs and such. I think if we did that, our first three nights would be this tour and our fourth night would be in Auckland. Seem doable? Seem worth it? Or would you stay in Auckland with just a day trip to the worm caves?

My weather experience from many years ago in June is probably not much use, but winter in NZ was pretty cool, and downright cold on the South Island. Sydney wasn't so bad.

I didn't see the worm caves then, but thought the other stops were definitely worth making it happen. That said, why not just hop a flight from Brisbane or Sydney straight to Christchurch and spend 3 days on the South Island?

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[notcasesensitive]

Originally Posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

My weather experience from many years ago in June is probably not much use, but winter in NZ was pretty cool, and downright cold on the South Island. Sydney wasn't so bad.

I didn't see the worm caves then, but thought the other stops were definitely worth making it happen. That said, why not just hop a flight from Brisbane or Sydney straight to Christchurch and spend 3 days on the South Island?

We aren't doing South Island at all. North Island only. We have 5 days/4 nights in and around Auckland. Flights are set.