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Old 06-20-2016, 08:12 PM   #1816
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:34 AM   #1817
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Translation: I am a goal keeper's dad.
Nicely done. Although, the goalkeeper really just wants to get the game going again.

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Old 06-21-2016, 12:07 PM   #1818
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Nicely done. Although, the goalkeeper really just wants to get the game going again.

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Did the other guy get a yellow for time wasting?
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:02 PM   #1819
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Did the other guy get a yellow for time wasting?
Good question. This is all I got and it ain't an answer:

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Old 06-23-2016, 10:49 AM   #1821
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Re: No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

While I'm inclined to think that Spirit's claim of copyright infringement against Led Zeppelin is pretty bogus, even if it's true, why would Spirit (or the lead singer's estate) be entitled to anything more than a small portion of the royalties derived from Stairway to Heaven? The song is a lot more than just the opening chords.
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:25 AM   #1822
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While I'm inclined to think that Spirit's claim of copyright infringement against Led Zeppelin is pretty bogus, even if it's true, why would Spirit (or the lead singer's estate) be entitled to anything more than a small portion of the royalties derived from Stairway to Heaven? The song is a lot more than just the opening chords.
F'd if I know.

Also, how do they get to wait this long to bring a claim?
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:56 AM   #1823
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F'd if I know.

Also, how do they get to wait this long to bring a claim?
Good question - I don't know what the StatLim is for copyright, but would guess they can only collect royalties starting some number of years before filing the complaint, not all the way back to 1971 or whenever the song was released.
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Old 06-23-2016, 01:11 PM   #1824
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Good question - I don't know what the StatLim is for copyright, but would guess they can only collect royalties starting some number of years before filing the complaint, not all the way back to 1971 or whenever the song was released.
3 years SOL, and that should limit how far back they can collect (each time it is played tolls a new start date). I don't get why laches isn't an issue. There is a SCt case saying laches cannot kick in if the claim is brought within the SOL, but that case (Raging Bull) was brought within 3 years of the claim first kicking in, so it doesn't explain how you can wait 40 years.
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Old 06-23-2016, 01:21 PM   #1825
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3 years SOL, and that should limit how far back they can collect (each time it is played tolls a new start date). I don't get why laches isn't an issue. There is a SCt case saying laches cannot kick in if the claim is brought within the SOL, but that case (Raging Bull) was brought within 3 years of the claim first kicking in, so it doesn't explain how you can wait 40 years.
Well, point moot now anyway. https://twitter.com/AP/status/746029760896208896

One article I read said the suit was tirggered by release of a remastered version of Stairway in 2014 or so.
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Well, point moot now anyway. https://twitter.com/AP/status/746029760896208896

One article I read said the suit was tirggered by release of a remastered version of Stairway in 2014 or so.
in patent law there is a 6 year sol, so you can only go back for sales in the 6 years before suit. But there is also a laches defense, that if it kicks in, takes all $$ damages off the table. and there is equitable estoppel that kicks in if you give a defendant the impression you do not intend to act. the Spirit guy apparently said he was okay with the copying in 1990, so I don't get how that wouldn't win.
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in patent law there is a 6 year sol, so you can only go back for sales in the 6 years before suit. But there is also a laches defense, that if it kicks in, takes all $$ damages off the table. and there is equitable estoppel that kicks in if you give a defendant the impression you do not intend to act. the Spirit guy apparently said he was okay with the copying in 1990, so I don't get how that wouldn't win.
Interesting. Maybe the judge was holding back rulings to see if the jury would find for LZ?

ETA: Nope. According to this the judge apparently ruled that the rerelease in 2014 meant laches didn't apply.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...kes-me-wonder/
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:16 PM   #1828
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Interesting. Maybe the judge was holding back rulings to see if the jury would find for LZ?

ETA: Nope. According to this the judge apparently ruled that the rerelease in 2014 meant laches didn't apply.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...kes-me-wonder/
yes, the Supremes appear to have taken laches out of copyright law.
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yes, the Supremes appear to have taken laches out of copyright law.
Laches? They don't need to show you no sinking laches. They are federales.
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Laches? They don't need to show you no sinking laches. They are federales.
There's some sort of irony in TaxWonk making a timely post about laches.
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