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09-12-2017, 11:05 AM
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#1981
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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It's free to go outside.
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There are more yoga pants per square foot inside.
(Have you seen an Athleta catalog lately?)
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09-12-2017, 11:08 AM
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#1982
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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While this can be true in a relative sense - developed economies will certainly be less more rich than Asian economies than they used to be - it's again very hard to imagine Asian economies as the first developed economies in history to be entirely self-sufficient such that they won't import goods from, among other places, traditional developed economies.
Ultimately, what your (and most) gloomy predictions always leave out is the increased consumption of huge masses of people in newly developed economies.
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It's a timing issue. Eventually, the growth in less developed economies benefits all. But for an interim period, like the one being suffered by low skill workers here, developed nations see some pretty wicked inequality while we wait for those middle classes to emerge as robust export markets.
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09-12-2017, 11:32 AM
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#1983
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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This comment's about all you need to know on causation:
Here is what happened. Industrialization of the huge population of S.E Asia caused a global imbalance in economic rent (the return on capital) and wages. The developed economies had high wages and low rents, while the emerging markets had low wages and high rents. Free trade and globalization allowed the reallocation of domestic capital to the emerging markets. In consequence, the developed economies suffered slow growth, stagnant wages, rising inequality and poor productivity as investment in domestic productive capacity declined.
Most likely the damage is long term. The loss of manufacturing to the temporary global imbalance in factor prices will be permanent. In the future, it is likely gravity effects will dominate forming large industrial hubs centered in Asia. The developed economies will be sidelined into services that tend to feature low productivity growth. Even apart from the loss of domestic employment opportunities, the unnecessary loss in technological and industrial capacity is incalculable.
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In other words, Asia caught up to the rest of the world?
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09-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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#1984
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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There are more yoga pants per square foot inside.
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Per square foot, sure, but there's plenty to look at on the lake and river paths on a nice day too. Plus you can get some added variety if you bike through the funkier parts of the city too.
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09-12-2017, 12:23 PM
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#1985
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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If you're suggesting the stalwart "Irish Democrat" won't pull the lever for HRC in one moment and let loose a torrent of bigoted invective the next, your Irish bona fides are suspect.
Half of those voters don't even know why they vote for Democrats anymore. Tammany Hall trained, their forebears' loyalty bought off cheaply long ago, and tradition still a big thing among them, they'd vote "Judas Hitler" to office if you slapped a D next to the name.
I venerate the Kennedys as much as I do the Lord. You know that measure.
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When did you last visit Boston, the 80s?
Folks have moved on. Urban Irish voters are mostly worried about gentrification (fuckin nau yawkahs) and absentee owners from China.
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09-12-2017, 12:29 PM
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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But what's a good indoor exercise bike to get, for those times when one can't get to the gym or the gym is closed.
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The wife has this one. It's absolutely silent, she loves it, and it's way cheaper than the Peloton bikes. And she uses the Peloton app for classes through a subscription.
http://www.soletreadmills.com/exerci...ggJRoC8BDw_wcB
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09-12-2017, 01:03 PM
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#1987
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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Per square foot, sure, but there's plenty to look at on the lake and river paths on a nice day too. Plus you can get some added variety if you bike through the funkier parts of the city too.
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I'm lazy and near sighted from watching too much Netflix on an iPhone.
Along these lines, whatever happened to Free the Nipple? We may quibble about the right way to effect many forms of social change, but I believe there was ironclad consensus on that one.
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09-12-2017, 01:08 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
When did you last visit Boston, the 80s?
Folks have moved on. Urban Irish voters are mostly worried about gentrification (fuckin nau yawkahs) and absentee owners from China.
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It's been a while since I did that sudden descent into Logan, true. I may be painting the Irish with a broad brush. But if you've got them in the family, and you do, you also know -- they deserve it. They drive you nuts with the drama.
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09-12-2017, 01:10 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
In other words, Asia caught up to the rest of the world?
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Kinda. Money that used to go to the lesser skilled here went there.
Next the cheap labor dollars go to Africa and South America?
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09-12-2017, 02:53 PM
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
It's been a while since I did that sudden descent into Logan, true. I may be painting the Irish with a broad brush. But if you've got them in the family, and you do, you also know -- they deserve it. They drive you nuts with the drama.
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There is one other group every good blue state urban ethnic group now hates, too, by the way, and that is fucking midwestern voters - or, as they are described in Southie - Mohr-ons.
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09-12-2017, 03:33 PM
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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Originally Posted by Adder
Per square foot, sure, but there's plenty to look at on the lake and river paths on a nice day too. Plus you can get some added variety if you bike through the funkier parts of the city too.
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Bilmore?
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09-12-2017, 03:36 PM
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#1992
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Bilmore?
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I was just wondering what happened to him. Anyone know anything?
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09-12-2017, 03:49 PM
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#1993
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I was just wondering what happened to him. Anyone know anything?
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He's off kayaking with Adder and a stack of Athleta catalogs.
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09-12-2017, 04:11 PM
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#1994
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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Originally Posted by greatwhitenorthchick
He's off kayaking with Adder and a stack of Athleta catalogs.
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Let's be clear here, it was Sebby who was getting all aroused by catalogs, like some sort of luddite who can't operate the interwebs porn machine.
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09-12-2017, 04:42 PM
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#1995
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Re: Not that anyone reads this place
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Originally Posted by Adder
Let's be clear here, it was Sebby who was getting all aroused by catalogs, like some sort of luddite who can't operate the interwebs porn machine.
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Say what you will about Ned Ludd and his followers, but at least they didn't use Twitter for pron.
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