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03-06-2018, 12:11 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Who is stupid enough to say they're going to rip up a subpoena on live television?
These people are fucking crazy.
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I assumed he was posturing to increase perceptions of his importance, or to audition for work in the White House. But not sure either of those hold, and I don't understand why he booked himself on every TV program in the US yesterday afternoon.
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03-06-2018, 01:35 PM
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#4772
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Wearing the cranky pants
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pulling your finger
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I assumed he was posturing to increase perceptions of his importance, or to audition for work in the White House. But not sure either of those hold, and I don't understand why he booked himself on every TV program in the US yesterday afternoon.
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"They also said that they were worried Nunberg had been drinking prior to dialing in to MSNBC and CNN."
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03-06-2018, 03:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: NYC
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Re: Question.
Nevermind.
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03-06-2018, 04:20 PM
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#4774
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Wearing the cranky pants
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pulling your finger
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by LessinSF
"They also said that they were worried Nunberg had been drinking prior to dialing in to MSNBC and CNN."
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It gets better - https://www.yahoo.com/news/sam-nunbe...050200426.html
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03-06-2018, 05:48 PM
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#4775
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 32,939
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Nevermind.
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A classic.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-07-2018, 11:30 AM
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#4776
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Who is stupid enough to say they're going to rip up a subpoena on live television?
These people are fucking crazy.
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Smart people don't talk to feds.
https://chiefexecutive.net/knock-and...your-doorstep/
Me, I am taking the 5th if a fed asks me what time it is. EVERY big fed case starts with a witness innocently talking to the feds, violating 1001 and being a pawn.
https://reason.com/archives/2018/02/...-to-the-feds-a
Consider George Papadopoulos. The special counsel secured his guilty plea not for improper contact with the Russians but for lying about that contact to the FBI. Consider Michael Flynn. He too pled guilty not to unlawful contact with Russians but to lying to the FBI about that contact. Consider Scooter Libby, or Martha Stewart, or Dennis Hastert, or James Cartwright, all taken down by the feds not for their alleged original misconduct but for lying about it. Even when catching someone in a lie isn't enough to force them to plead guilty, it can add charges to a case. Consider Paul Manafort and Richard Gates, charged not just with substantive crimes but with lying to the FBI about them.
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03-07-2018, 12:35 PM
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#4777
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump
Smart people don't talk to feds.
https://chiefexecutive.net/knock-and...your-doorstep/
Me, I am taking the 5th if a fed asks me what time it is. EVERY big fed case starts with a witness innocently talking to the feds, violating 1001 and being a pawn.
https://reason.com/archives/2018/02/...-to-the-feds-a
Consider George Papadopoulos. The special counsel secured his guilty plea not for improper contact with the Russians but for lying about that contact to the FBI. Consider Michael Flynn. He too pled guilty not to unlawful contact with Russians but to lying to the FBI about that contact. Consider Scooter Libby, or Martha Stewart, or Dennis Hastert, or James Cartwright, all taken down by the feds not for their alleged original misconduct but for lying about it. Even when catching someone in a lie isn't enough to force them to plead guilty, it can add charges to a case. Consider Paul Manafort and Richard Gates, charged not just with substantive crimes but with lying to the FBI about them.
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When I was a fed, I spent a lot of time calling people up and asking them to talk to us voluntarily. None of them ever got in trouble.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-07-2018, 12:37 PM
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#4778
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
When I was a fed, I spent a lot of time calling people up and asking them to talk to us voluntarily. None of them ever got in trouble.
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Then go to their house and ask them questions. I have to go inside now and refresh my youporn page.
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03-07-2018, 12:50 PM
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#4779
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-07-2018, 01:09 PM
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#4780
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,113
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
When I was a fed, I spent a lot of time calling people up and asking them to talk to us voluntarily. None of them ever got in trouble.
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Depends on the Fed and what they're up to, even in your former offices. Some of y'all I'll let a client talk to, and others won't talk without assurances.
But that dude was talking about not providing responsive documents that he was essentially admitting existed. That's not going to work.
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03-07-2018, 01:52 PM
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Wearing the cranky pants
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pulling your finger
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
Ah, Nevada. You never fail to disappoint.
Inside this link, a Nevada Court of Appeal judge spends 17 pages on a dissent involving standing. The case is unpublished and not citeable.
https://nvcourts.gov/COAPortal/caseV...px?csiid=38792
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03-07-2018, 02:06 PM
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#4782
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Government Yard in Trenchtown
Posts: 20,182
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Re: Question.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
When I was a fed, I spent a lot of time calling people up and asking them to talk to us voluntarily. None of them ever got in trouble.
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When I was a student, the feds just tapped my phone and listened in. None of them ever got in trouble.
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03-07-2018, 02:07 PM
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#4783
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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It's sad to see so many judges so invested in pronouncing that they don't have the power to adjudicate disputes brought before them.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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03-07-2018, 05:15 PM
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Wearing the cranky pants
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pulling your finger
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
It's sad to see so many judges so invested in pronouncing that they don't have the power to adjudicate disputes brought before them.
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Seriously. Shouldn't his dissent be:
"We don't have jurisdiction."
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03-07-2018, 05:33 PM
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#4785
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.
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的t was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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