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Old 05-15-2015, 12:25 PM   #121
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Re: No Faith in the Moral Standards of the Players as a Group

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I disagree with the way you have characterized "my" theory (hi Flower!), but whatever. Burger has my proxy on the question of how many balls were how underinflated when -- that seems absolutely crucial.
Someone always has your proxy. Why don't you just post google search results and ask people to click on whichever link most suits your thoughts?

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You have already made up your mind that the Patriots were cheating.
Yes. Based on a tremendous amount of evidence that they were. What a stupid thing to say.

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I came into this conversation agnostic
You are 100% full of shit.

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but talking about it with you is pushing me the other way, and I'd rather remain agnostic.
I'd say you were 150% full of shit, but that's not possible.

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As I said at the outset, I'm not particularly inclined to defend Brady or the team, but I think the rush to judgment on everyone's part has been ridiculous.
Are you joking? Rush to judgment? This shit has been active for months and there's a huge fucking report outlining evidence of wrongdoing. The actual judgment is based on a review of the evidence made available to the NFL. Rush to judgment. Pure nonsense.

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This morning I read this ESPN article about the Patriots' challenge to the league, and it makes me suspect there's something to the Patriots' case.
Of course it did. Try as you might, you just can't remain agnostic!

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Kraft is not an outsider within the league, and days ago he was saying they would accept whatever the league handed down.
Ha ha ha. And then he didn't because he didn't like it.

Your arguments are rock solid.

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Old 05-15-2015, 12:27 PM   #122
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The standards of conduct is negotiated between the league, which is a commercial enterprise and not a government authority, and the union. If Brady had a duty to turn over all of his text messages and didn't comply, then they can and should suspend him for that. But they didn't. If -- if -- he cooperated with the investigation in other ways, and drew the line at handing over those kinds of personal materials to an organization that notoriously leaks like a sieve and has blatantly mishandled other investigations, then that sounds pretty reasonable to me. YMMV.
Of course it does.

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Old 05-15-2015, 12:52 PM   #123
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You are 100% full of shit.
Go fuck yourself.

While we've been having this conversation, I've been having another with some co-workers who are Boston sports fans, and on that one I've been the hanging judge. Just like you have pushed me to try to defend the Pats, they have pushed me to defend the league. Both conversations are pushing me from where I started, in opposite directions, but they're not being assholes about it.
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:12 PM   #124
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Go fuck yourself.

While we've been having this conversation, I've been having another with some co-workers who are Boston sports fans, and on that one I've been the hanging judge. Just like you have pushed me to try to defend the Pats, they have pushed me to defend the league. Both conversations are pushing me from where I started, in opposite directions, but they're not being assholes about it.
Awwww, why so angry? Let some air out.

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Old 05-15-2015, 03:03 PM   #126
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This is your best work.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:31 PM   #127
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This is your best work.
Always clears the air.*

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*Ha! That one wasn't even intentional!
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:50 PM   #128
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Always clears the air.*

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*Ha! That one wasn't even intentional!
fuckin' watermelons coming.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:53 PM   #129
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Of course it does.

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Old 05-15-2015, 04:00 PM   #130
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fuckin' watermelons coming.
Just went through all the texts in the link below to try to figure this out. Still don't get it.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...-texts-in-full

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Old 05-15-2015, 04:46 PM   #131
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Just went through all the texts in the link below to try to figure this out. Still don't get it.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...-texts-in-full

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He's pissed off that Brady's bad-mouthing him, and proposing to overinflate the balls so they look like watermelons. Same thing with rugby balls, balloons, and so forth.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:48 PM   #132
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He's pissed off that Brady's bad-mouthing him, and proposing to overinflate the balls so they look like watermelons. Same thing with rugby balls, balloons, and so forth.
I thought it was his nickname for a fat coach.

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Old 05-16-2015, 12:37 AM   #133
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The more I see people flailing to defend this, the worse it looks. This board included.
Skipping over impassioned 800-word posts about a subject of no real consequence gives me a glimpse of how other people experience me, so that’s a real opportunity.
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Old 05-16-2015, 10:17 AM   #134
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Skipping over impassioned 800-word posts about a subject of no real consequence gives me a glimpse of how other people experience me, so that’s a real opportunity.
dissent! IIRC your long riff on string theory and physics nerds spawned my Eva Silverstein meme. I think that was generally seen as a positive?
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Old 05-16-2015, 07:37 PM   #135
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Weirdly perfect.
Well, there you have it, then.

BTW, I tried, but there was no way I could read that and not hear it in Chandler Bing's voice. I apologize for that. To both of you.
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