Mother, mother, mother - there's too many of you crying.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

You're picking a jury. He's in your pool. Do you bounce him?

Doesn't it depend on what you're trying? In a criminal case, the prosecution would want him every time.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Doesn't it depend on what you're trying? In a criminal case, the prosecution would want him every time.

Why? Prosecutors never want someone who understands the law, right?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Why? Prosecutors never want someone who understands the law, right?

When I was on jury duty, a judge told me that prosecutors want someone whom the rest of the jury will listen to and follow, because then they can focus on that person.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

When I was on jury duty, a judge told me that prosecutors want someone whom the rest of the jury will listen to and follow, because then they can focus on that person.

I was in pool for a murder trial. The evidence was scientific- carpet fibers.

The D attorney asked us the question, "given what you know now, would you find my client guilty or not guilty?" People are saying, "I haven't decided yet," or some such.

She asked me and I said, "Well given the burdens, I would have to find not guilty, that's what you're trying to teach? Sort of a cheap trick."

Then the prosecutor asked what I did, and "patent attorney" on a case involving scientific evidence got him to send me home early!

[ferrets_bueller]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I would find the concerns about robots a little more compelling if people proposed that we give up our robot smartphones, robot washing machines, and our robot cars, and go back to non-robot messenger boys, non-robot washer women, and non-robot horses. Yesterday's robots are all awesome -- it's only tomorrow's robots that are the problem.

You have just summarized the plot of Player Piano by Kurt Vonnegut, 1952.
(Unemployed and Underemployed Revolutionaries riot, smash the robots, and them rebuild them because the robots are, you know, cool.)

The fact that the unemployed lack a certain sense of irony doesn't destroy the premise.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I was in pool for a murder trial. The evidence was scientific- carpet fibers.

The D attorney asked us the question, "given what you know now, would you find my client guilty or not guilty?" People are saying, "I haven't decided yet," or some such.

She asked me and I said, "Well given the burdens, I would have to find not guilty, that's what you're trying to teach? Sort of a cheap trick."

Then the prosecutor asked what I did, and "patent attorney" on a case involving scientific evidence got him to send me home early!

I went to law school with the prosecutor in the only criminal jury that I have been in the pool for. The case was plead before they got to jury selection, so she never got to bump me.

The only other jury pool I've ever been on was some sort of HOA dispute. I got bumped as soon as I said "I don't believe in HOAs." Apparently Senator Rand and I have something in common.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

You're picking a jury. He's in your pool. Do you bounce him?

I don't. I've only been involved in civil trials as a defendant. Most of them had a science element (engineering, industrial hygiene, hydro-geology, etc.). We always wanted smart jurors.

[SEC_Chick]

I served on a jury in a criminal trial when I was a midlevel associate at Biglaw. I was shocked I didn't get bumped because I was juror 60 something in the pool, but it was a child molestation case. We gave the guy 17 years for molesting his daughter, though I and a guy from an energy company had to talk up the people that wanted to give him probation.

To date, that is still the only courtroom legal activity in which I have participated.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Nothing infuriates Pitchfork as much as the blandly successful:

"It’s this utter lack of libido that ends up making Red Pill Blues so difficult to even finish. Soft rock and sex have a tricky relationship, and so do sex and Hot 100 pop. It’s the ostensible subject, or the ultimate aim, of 99% of the material, but actual, physical copulation is a nasty rumor to most of these songs. On “Lips on You,” Levine offers, in a gentlemanly way, to go down on you; the offer might be sexier if the heart-thump of the drum programming and the new age synth didn’t sound like Sting was servicing you in a Pier 1 Imports store."

Ick.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...ed-pill-blues/

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Seb Gorka FTW.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower

Nothing infuriates Pitchfork as much as the blandly successful:

"It’s this utter lack of libido that ends up making Red Pill Blues so difficult to even finish. Soft rock and sex have a tricky relationship, and so do sex and Hot 100 pop. It’s the ostensible subject, or the ultimate aim, of 99% of the material, but actual, physical copulation is a nasty rumor to most of these songs. On “Lips on You,” Levine offers, in a gentlemanly way, to go down on you; the offer might be sexier if the heart-thump of the drum programming and the new age synth didn’t sound like Sting was servicing you in a Pier 1 Imports store."

Ick.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums...ed-pill-blues/

I had to take off my belt and put it on the conveyor. And then I had to put my belt back on. Fucking Obama.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Seb Gorka FTW.

The goal is not to challenge them to duels, but to get them to challenge each other to duels. Let the herd thin itself.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?

I don't. I've only been involved in civil trials as a defendant. Most of them had a science element (engineering, industrial hygiene, hydro-geology, etc.). We always wanted smart jurors.

Depends on your case. My last trial I represented patentee for a patent on a caulking tube. there was a little bump of plastic on it that let air escape when the tube was filled. Ty could understand the technology is what I'm saying. A big issue was my firm made a math error when drafting the patent- it was meaningless, but Defendant made a big deal of it.

the potential jurors were asked, "have you ever gotten a patent?"

One guy says "yes." "on what?" "Several on high tech chemistry!"

I bounced that mf in a NY minute. I had a nice P And D were dirty copiers and the last thing I wanted was any juror smart enough to see past that, plus the guy said "high tech chemistry?" And my guy invented a bump on a piece of plastic? Umm nope. Plus, he seemed not the sort to forgive a math error. No jury for you!

[Paisley]

Originally Posted by SEC_Chick

I served on a jury in a criminal trial when I was a midlevel associate at Biglaw. I was shocked I didn't get bumped because I was juror 60 something in the pool, but it was a child molestation case. We gave the guy 17 years for molesting his daughter, though I and a guy from an energy company had to talk up the people that wanted to give him probation.

To date, that is still the only courtroom legal activity in which I have participated.

A couple of weeks after starting as a 1st year litigation associate at a big firm I was put on a jury for a multiple defendant felony murder case involving 8 or so victims. I was sure I wouldn't get picked since I was a lawyer - obviously wrong. After it was all over (for me at least) I went to watch the sentencing hearing, and afterwards spoke with the defense attorneys. They said they didn't bump me because they trusted I would understand their case.