We are all Slave now.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Adder

No, it's an academic feminist word. Given your already demonstrated ignorance, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt about knowing that, although maybe had you actually read the wikipedia link...

I don't think most liberal arts academics are terribly serious people. If you were trying to solve a serious problem with a pragmatic response, would you invite a liberal arts academic who'd never worked outside a campus to offer input? Maybe. But hesitantly at best.

I liked drinking with liberal arts academics. I like navel gazing with liberal arts academics. But they very rarely have the capacity to engage in pragmatic problem solving. That's a lot of why they self-select to where they are.

ETA: I took loads of classes on feminist themes in literature. First, all deconstruction of books is kind of mental masturbation. These themes people claim to find are rarely if ever actually intended by the author. But those classes were uniquely silly. We'd find references to menstruation in some 15th century poem that clearly was not really there. We'd torture texts to come up with feminist or chauvinist intent where none was present. Oddly, we never read Fear of Flying in those classes. That was introduced to me by a salty old male professor: "This is a book about a woman having sex they way she feels like having sex." He was right. And that's all anyone had to say about that book.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

No its affirmative. They are working very hard at it sometimes. Watch the hearings.

I don't think any of those men is working hard to rape anyone or see more rapes occur or go unpunished. I think they're struggling mightily to deny an attempted rape occurred.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I'm not watching. What's happening?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

You were very brave. Here's a cookie.

did you know toll house cookies were invented in Egypt? supposedly by an American but you know that can be faked.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I use rape culture all the time to describe behavior and norms that make it easier for assault and harassment of women to be normalized and dismissed. And even worse, promoted and admired.

For example, the scenario described in this reddit post I would describe as the perpetuation of rape culture.

This particular one strikes a nerve with me, because the same damned thing happened to me in fifth grade, but I didn't speak up because it's so fucking ingrained in the world I lived in at the time that I knew that there was no point. And I was socialized to think that having boobs meant you have to endure this sort of shit. Maybe I'm not serious in the way you want me to be, but I'm dead serious about observing this shit because I've had to navigate it my entire life.

That's an insane post. That principal is creating an environment where sexual assault is tolerated. He should be fired. That he's considering expelling her is mind-bending.

But the fact that this shit is upsetting, that it's been tolerated for too long -- it doesn't license us to degrade the language. These shorthand words that are appearing in the culture are turning serious conversations into binary conversations. You think Occupy had a point? You're an SJW. Are you straight and unaware of LGBT issues? You're CIS Male (dropped pejoratively). You think Kavanaugh's innocent? You're part of Rape Culture.

We seem to have a massive societal hard-on for categorizing people these days. You're this. He's that. She's this. You're thinking makes you X, Y, or Z. Here's how I identify you. Here is your group.

Rape Culture is an attempt - I think a failed one - to lump a ton of things under a single descriptive. We have untold numbers of words to describe the varying types of behavior comprising this societal rape denial. Why simplify? So we can fit something on Twitter? So we can blurt it out in a 30 second live hit on cable news?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I’ll admit I’ve even used rapey. It captures exactly what you describe. But that’s a barb. Rape Culture is used like a credible, clinical term. It’s not. It’s a silly oversimplification meant to shock. It needs to go. But it wont because we’re in the age of feeling and short attention spans now. If you feel it’s a valid construct and helps you express yourself at Tweet length, gosh darnit, you can use it!

so it's like "white privilege?" It oversimplifies? But it does convey a general thought doesn't it? Like Ty said with weather. My privilege isn't exactly Adder's, I'd explain it differently anyway. But it is short hand to convey a concept.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm not watching. What's happening?

adder ggg thurgred and you are engaging sebby on another vapid point?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

That's an insane post. That principal is creating an environment where sexual assault is tolerated. He should be fired. That he's considering expelling her is mind-bending.

But the fact that this shit is upsetting, that it's been tolerated for too long -- it doesn't license us to degrade the language. These shorthand words that are appearing in the culture are turning serious conversations into binary conversations. You think Occupy had a point? You're an SJW. Are you straight and unaware of LGBT issues? You're CIS Male (dropped pejoratively). You think Kavanaugh's innocent? You're part of Rape Culture.

We seem to have a massive societal hard-on for categorizing people these days. You're this. He's that. She's this. You're thinking makes you X, Y, or Z. Here's how I identify you. Here is your group.

Rape Culture is an attempt - I think a failed one - to lump a ton of things under a single descriptive. We have untold numbers of words to describe the varying types of behavior comprising this societal rape denial. Why simplify? So we can fit something on Twitter? So we can blurt it out in a 30 second live hit on cable news?

I take it you didn't read the rest of the wikipedia article? The term has been around since the 70s.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

That's an insane post. That principal is creating an environment where sexual assault is tolerated. He should be fired. That he's considering expelling her is mind-bending.

But the fact that this shit is upsetting, that it's been tolerated for too long -- it doesn't license us to degrade the language. These shorthand words that are appearing in the culture are turning serious conversations into binary conversations. You think Occupy had a point? You're an SJW. Are you straight and unaware of LGBT issues? You're CIS Male (dropped pejoratively). You think Kavanaugh's innocent? You're part of Rape Culture.

We seem to have a massive societal hard-on for categorizing people these days. You're this. He's that. She's this. You're thinking makes you X, Y, or Z. Here's how I identify you. Here is your group.

Rape Culture is an attempt - I think a failed one - to lump a ton of things under a single descriptive. We have untold numbers of words to describe the varying types of behavior comprising this societal rape denial. Why simplify? So we can fit something on Twitter? So we can blurt it out in a 30 second live hit on cable news?

"Weather" is an attempt -- I think a failed one -- to lump a ton of things under a single descriptive. We have untold numbers of words to describe varying types of atmospheric conditions relating to temperature, humidity, wind, precipitation, etc., and if we need more we can always borrow from the Eskimos. Why simplify? So we can fit something on Twitter? So we can go to weather.com instead of compexmultiplecategoriesofatmosphericphenonema.com? Hello? Why do you think God invented browser bookmarks?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

adder ggg thurgred and you are engaging sebby on another vapid point?

As the Bible says, nothing is new under the sun.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

I take it you didn't read the rest of the wikipedia article? The term has been around since the 70s.

It's gained broad prominence recently. Previously, it was relegated to the campus. Now I hear it all over the place.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

so it's like "white privilege?" It oversimplifies? But it does convey a general thought doesn't it? Like Ty said with weather. My privilege isn't exactly Adder's, I'd explain it differently anyway. But it is short hand to convey a concept.

It's a shorthand way to associate a person or group of people with a criminal act or affirmative support for that act.

It's like "drug culture," another dumb descriptive. A pot smoker, cokehead, and smack fiend are not the same animal.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

It's a shorthand way to associate a person or group of people with a criminal act or affirmative support for that act.

It's like "drug culture," another dumb descriptive. A pot smoker, cokehead, and smack fiend are not the same animal.

Well, then you just need to adjust and understand what people seem to mean- like I don't like the term "White privilege." See for me "privileged" were the kids from Grosse Pointe, and i was the not-privileged in comparison- I don't like the word choice- but it was chosen so I'm stuck with it. I can process what it means and consider thoughts tied to it, I mean i understand the concept.

Similarly "rape culture" means attitudes and behavior that lead to men behaving badly generally, and sometimes raping, yes, but it is more than that. might "boorish men behaviour culture" been more broadly accurate? Maybe. But no one here coined the phrase. "Only God works from whole cloth, man must work with what came before."

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

"Weather" is an attempt -- I think a failed one -- to lump a ton of things under a single descriptive. We have untold numbers of words to describe varying types of atmospheric conditions relating to temperature, humidity, wind, precipitation, etc., and if we need more we can always borrow from the Eskimos. Why simplify? So we can fit something on Twitter? So we can go to weather.com instead of compexmultiplecategoriesofatmosphericphenonema.com? Hello? Why do you think God invented browser bookmarks?

Is a handjob sex? How about a blowjob? Cunnilingus?

You say you had sex with someone, 99.9% of people assume intercourse. You say someone is part of Rape Culture, and 99.9% of people (not on campuses) think you're involved in or somehow associated with a horrible criminal act.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I don't think any of those men is working hard to rape anyone or see more rapes occur or go unpunished. I think they're struggling mightily to deny an attempted rape occurred.

Again, you say this because you ignore the things they have said.