Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Yes

Yes

Balancing test. Reliability of our information that he is not innocent v. risks of not getting information from father. Presumption against not beating the son.

Threaten? Yes. Anything above that, no, assuming they are not guilty.

If It Don't Fit . . .
 

In other news, Jonnie Cochran died today.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Interesting. Let's review:

Bilmore: War sucks. We need to punish those who do this shit, but understand that it happens and besides, think of the Iraqis we've saved!

Club: War sucks. I'm torn, but I think the end justifies the means in many cases. Assuming that we know, really know, that they're combatants, go ahead and beat their children. After all, they might know something.

Hello: War sucks. We should never condone misconduct against enemy soldiers.

Hank [far as I can tell, from his three sentence reply]: Fuck 'em! That's right, kids -- combatant, noncombatant, man, woman, child -- fuck em all. Iraqis who get rounded up can fuckin' die a painful death in our custody for all I care. If you disagree, think of the Saudi hijackers!

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So your answer to my original question is a "no," then, right?

Gotcha. Thanks for that.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

I'm confused.

Assuming that who is not guilty of what? Clarify, please. And, once this explained threshhold is met, are you saying it's then OK to rape?

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

If the US government says they can judge, how is that different than being appointed a Florida State judge? you look at the facts- you make the call.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

do you have a photo- or is this pure hypothetical?

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

I assume you mean presumption against beating the son?

And I have Gatti's question re: who is guilty of what, that would allow rape of someone's wife/daughter/sister/mother. As a daughter/sister, I'm concerned.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

2. Though I suppose I could just close my eyes and think of England.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Don't you worry your purty little head about it, Hank. In your worldview, they're dead anyway, so the question is moot.



In recognition of your ideological purity on the issue, let me recommend a new avatar to you. It may startle your GOP brethren, but the good news is that you make them look good by comparison.

http://www.lifeadvocate.org/arc/graphics/terry.gif

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Assuming that the rapee is not guilty of any serious/grave offense.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

I will just hope Daddy and Mummy are not insurgenting, or, well, I guess I will hope no one denounces them for insurgenting.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Jesus Christ, club.

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Where in the hypo did we get the rapee doing anything other than being related to someone? Who determines guilt? Does this mean we can ass-rape the detainees/prisoners to get them to talk? Can we knock out their teeth so they give better forced head?

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

So there's a footnote to the premise that rape is never, ever, ever ok?

Ty- now is it a scandal?
 

Yes, presumption against beating.

The wife/daughter/sister/mother would have to be guilty of a grave offense.