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Tyrone Slothrop 03-24-2016 07:52 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499735)
Really, because I kind of think those articles had just a little substance to them. I think it's you who's got nothing in terms of reply.

But yes, there is some resentment. I resent people who repeatedly fuck up, and have never proven themselves in the private sector, inflicting their economic policy suggestions on us. These same criticisms could be aimed at Milton Friedman.

Deification of pure academics pontificating about real world processes is dangerous. This buffoon just recently argued that we should rid the world of $100 bills. This is a direct assault on our freedoms. Why? Well, of course, because Larry, who is right on everything in theory, knows what's best for us. Nevermind his track record and gross inexperience in working within the private economy he knows so well...

You'll never get it because you deify people like Summers. I see him for what he is. And I rightly resent, quite deeply, that a person so wrong so often still insists on joining the big policy debates. Go teach a class, Larry. You're out of your depth, and dangerous.

I have no idea what you're talking about re $100 bills, and I don't really care. If he wants to get rid of them, I don't understand why you care, either, but whatever.

On the issues that actually matter more to a lot of people, like how the economy should be managed, Summers has been much more right than the people to whom the Republicans in Congress have listened, with consequent harm to the economy and particularly to the people who are now turning to Trump. But you call him fat and worry about your God-given right to carry Franklins. I guess that's exactly the kind of substance that has given us Trump.

I don't deify Sanders, unless by that word you mean "point out the fat-shaming of". I do like talking about economics, partly because it matters.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-24-2016 11:49 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499746)
Why? Amounts that trigger review won't change.

Why? We are all moving in that direction already. What makes you think hundred dollar bills are what's keeping us in a cash-based system? How often does anyone use hundreds?

TM

I'm not concerned about a CTR. I'm concerned about any move to increase oversight.

We are moving in that direction already. But those of us who aren't, for good reason, should be protected. The underground economy is an integral part of the broader economy.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-24-2016 11:57 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 499783)
I have no idea what you're talking about re $100 bills, and I don't really care. If he wants to get rid of them, I don't understand why you care, either, but whatever.

On the issues that actually matter more to a lot of people, like how the economy should be managed, Summers has been much more right than the people to whom the Republicans in Congress have listened, with consequent harm to the economy and particularly to the people who are now turning to Trump. But you call him fat and worry about your God-given right to carry Franklins. I guess that's exactly the kind of substance that has given us Trump.

I don't deify Sanders, unless by that word you mean "point out the fat-shaming of". I do like talking about economics, partly because it matters.

What are you even saying here? Get your shit together.

Summers' only recent position has been we shouldn't raise rates. Raising rates had little impact. You cite no policy. You offer Trumpian rhetoric with an enhanced vocabulary.

You say it all when you say you like "talking economics." Thankfully, your mental masturbation doesn't exit this forum. Larry's is on the business page.

Did you just use "shaming" earnestly? Sir, indeed -- get your shit together.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 12:14 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499751)
Listen, what I feel about Larry Summers' performance as an adviser is not really relevant to my point. What I'm trying to understand is why you feel the need to put Trump and Summers (or Trump and anyone who has any legitimacy in any field at all) in the same boat.

You are right that people who are considered experts in their field based on dedicating their lives to the study of a topic are often sought out to assist elected officials who can't possibly be in such a position when it comes to the numerous subjects on which they need to form an opinion and make decisions. And yes, experts are often wrong. But it is beyond irresponsible for you to put a fucking buffoon who is an expert in zero things, including his own business, in the same category as any expert. It's just a ridiculous exercise.

Consider:

"Wow, Bill Belichick really drew up an awful offensive scheme for the Super Bowl. Denver was all over them on every play. He got everything wrong. We should hire Donald Trump to be our head coach next year. He's very rich, and although he has absolutely no experience with football, he can probably figure it out. And if he can't, he'll just hire smart people to assist him."

TM

You've fixated on a collateral thing. Summers is not the same variant of bloated jackass as Trump. A reptile probably applies more rigor to his conclusions than does The Donald of Orange. I only lump them together because both have such an utterly undeserved self-aggrandizement complex. One clown inherited a fortune and parlayed it into a garish "empire" of shlock. The other collected degrees, gold-plated wonk positions, and got Bezos to give a blog at WaPo. Neither is worth listening to in much detail, and both are highly irritating in anything beyond minimal doses. Yet neither seems capable of shutting the fuck up in any instance.

But you are correct - Summers has a wealth more collected academic intellect, and though it pains me to concede, I'd have to select him over Trump if compelled to pick one to be stranded with on a desert island. Part of this is because I imagine Larry'd be more whiny than dictatorial. The other part of it is, if it came to survival of the fittest, I'd want the guy I could most easily outrun.

It'd also be more fun "shaming" Larry for lack of survival skill. There is no "shaming" Trump.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 12:27 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 499780)
He won't be elected. But will it be the apocalypse anyway?

This is the question. The Comb-over and the Damage Done?

Trump's down 10 points against Hillary. But the impact of him driving so much right wing extremism, coupled with Bernie driving so much left wing utopian hope isn't going away. These strands of supporters connect on certain points and are mortal enemies on others. The only diagnosis is more polarity generally and more fragmentation. And whoever wins being seen as illegitimate by nearly half the county. In other words, four more years of the last sixteen. Only with more war! Be it DJT ot HRC, we're going into the Middle East in a serious way.*


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* Obama's only blunder has been Libya. We should've left Gaddafi, the garbage pail lid, on that place. Otherwise, he's been conservative non-interventionist. He deserves more credit for this.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-25-2016 12:36 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499744)
1. Enables more oversight of all transactions.
2. Assists in moving toward cashless system, which allows greater bank control (negative rates, etc.).

What is wrong with a cashless system? Now you're just trying to get me riled up.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-25-2016 12:40 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 499759)
I had the opposite of this repeatedly in St. Louis. I was there several times on a lawsuit. The train into town from the airport gives change in $1 coins. No one anywhere else (at least in Detroit) has any idea what they are, so it is hard to spend them. So I took to trying to get rid of them in the airport before flying home.

This led to me offering to buy the lunch a young man in army fatigues behind me in line at a food kiosk was about to order. You know, in thanks for his service. I had 5 coins I needed to get rid of. I think the guy thought I was coming on to him.

As it happens, this morning I was at one of the Federal Reserve Banks, speaking to the people there about how they handle cash (in and out). They send a lot of those $1 coins to banks in countries like El Salvador and Ecuador that use the USD as their currency, because the paper dollars there don't last as long.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-25-2016 12:45 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499777)
No argument from me.

Anyone else? Anyone?

I think I said before, but I will say it again. Trump is great, because he is going to destroy the Republican Party as we now know it. If he gets the nomination, lots of Republicans won't vote for him. If he doesn't, his supporters will be pissed that it was stolen from him and will walk. He has exposed fundamental rifts that the party had successfully papered over. And he won't win. He cannot possibly turn out enough whites to make up for the blacks and Hispanics who will turn out to vote against him, and he is going to damage the GOP with many voters for a long, long time.

Tyrone Slothrop 03-25-2016 12:48 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499785)
Summers' only recent position has been we shouldn't raise rates. Raising rates had little impact. You cite no policy.

In twenty seconds on Google -- no, less than that, I can find a page with the columns Summers has written on the FT recently. Don't be an idiot. Whoops! Too late. (See? You got me riled.)

Replaced_Texan 03-25-2016 01:31 AM

Re: This is immensely entertaining
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499774)

This is why Lindsey Graham is my favorite Republican.

LessinSF 03-25-2016 02:49 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499777)
No argument from me.

Anyone else? Anyone?

TM

Jim Webb.

LessinSF 03-25-2016 02:57 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499787)
Trump's down 10 points against Hillary. .

You can still get Bernie at 7-1. Nate thinks he will win the next 8 Dem contests He is the best candidate to lower your taxes.

Hank Chinaski 03-25-2016 10:37 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 499778)
This is America for the people who listen to Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern (Hi Hank!).

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06...imbaugh/203898

No one listens to Rush, not even enough to win a R primary. Stern supports Hillary. So no.

Adder 03-25-2016 10:38 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy (Post 499782)
I am especially disturbed at the way they demonize inversion transactions and those who engage in them. This is ugly, ugly, ugly.

Some of my best friends are Irish now.

Adder 03-25-2016 10:42 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499785)
Raising rates had little impact.

Little is not none. And it's had enough that expectations have shifted against the additional rate hikes that were planned for this year.

Quote:

Larry's is on the business page.
I know we've had this conversation before, but I'll say it again: you should not read the business page. There is nothing of value there.

Adder 03-25-2016 10:45 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499787)
Be it DJT ot HRC, we're going into the Middle East in a serious way.*


________________
* Obama's only blunder has been Libya. We should've left Gaddafi, the garbage pail lid, on that place. Otherwise, he's been conservative non-interventionist. He deserves more credit for this.

I'm really not sure why people think Hillary's foreign policy will deviate that much from Obama's. She had a major influence on his, after all, and Bill's was not all that different.

Maybe she's marginally more likely to bomb someplace than Barack, but she's not going to bring us another Iraq war.

Replaced_Texan 03-25-2016 10:46 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
I swear this whole Republican campaign is just downright goldmine for comedians.

http://www.conservativeoutfitters.co...zs-sex-scandal

I find it difficult to believe that six women have wanted to have sex with Ted Cruz, but I suppose everyone has a fetish.

Adder 03-25-2016 10:51 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 499799)
I swear this whole Republican campaign is just downright goldmine for comedians.

http://www.conservativeoutfitters.co...zs-sex-scandal

I find it difficult to believe that six women have wanted to have sex with Ted Cruz, but I suppose everyone has a fetish.

The whole thing is fascinating. Like, I actually thought Cruz might a Federalist Society evangelical robot who would pride himself in being above such carnal temptations (seriously, he seems like every waking moment of his life has been a plot to gain power).

And then as you say, there's more than one women who would sleep with him?

Which probably means that he's as shocked as we are about that and couldn't bring himself to pass up the opportunities.

ThurgreedMarshall 03-25-2016 11:11 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499784)
I'm not concerned about a CTR. I'm concerned about any move to increase oversight.

We are moving in that direction already. But those of us who aren't, for good reason, should be protected. The underground economy is an integral part of the broader economy.

This exchange is bizarre. I'm going to drop it.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 03-25-2016 11:15 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 499788)
What is wrong with a cashless system? Now you're just trying to get me riled up.

I don't like that Apple, Samsung, banks, take a piece of every single transaction. But other than that, I'm all for it.

TM

ThurgreedMarshall 03-25-2016 11:18 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 499790)
I think I said before, but I will say it again. Trump is great, because he is going to destroy the Republican Party as we now know it. If he gets the nomination, lots of Republicans won't vote for him. If he doesn't, his supporters will be pissed that it was stolen from him and will walk. He has exposed fundamental rifts that the party had successfully papered over. And he won't win. He cannot possibly turn out enough whites to make up for the blacks and Hispanics who will turn out to vote against him, and he is going to damage the GOP with many voters for a long, long time.

Look, I'm with you. But anything can happen before the election. If there is a large terrorist attack the week before the election, there would be a real danger of us suffering through 4 years of President Trump. Jesus. My stomach just churned at the thought.

TM

Sidd Finch 03-25-2016 11:36 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 499799)
I find it difficult to believe that six women have wanted to have sex with Ted Cruz, but I suppose everyone has a fetish.


Without any doubt this is the greatest sentence that I will read all day. I might as well go home and play Halo for the next 14 hours.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 11:41 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 499788)
What is wrong with a cashless system? Now you're just trying to get me riled up.

Seriously? Are you fucking nuts?

Hank Chinaski 03-25-2016 11:41 AM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 499799)
I find it difficult to believe that six women have wanted to have sex with Ted Cruz, but I suppose everyone has a fetish.

why do you see choice? I don't want to vote for Hilary but it's starting to look like I might have to.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 11:43 AM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 499798)
I'm really not sure why people think Hillary's foreign policy will deviate that much from Obama's. She had a major influence on his, after all, and Bill's was not all that different.

Maybe she's marginally more likely to bomb someplace than Barack, but she's not going to bring us another Iraq war.

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/10/what...as_a_war_hawk/

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 11:56 AM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop (Post 499791)
In twenty seconds on Google -- no, less than that, I can find a page with the columns Summers has written on the FT recently. Don't be an idiot. Whoops! Too late. (See? You got me riled.)

I meant Summers' most recent influential policy suggestion. But thank you for making my point: This man never never stops inflicting his views on the world. Which is, of course, his right. Hopefully, as typically happens with saturation, policymakers will grow fatigued and he'll fade into the pantheon of endless chattering annoyances, with Newt, Norquist, Kristol, Krugman, Lindsey Graham, Tom Friedman, etc.

These people make some decent points, but the best of those points are all known already, and are made better by fresher voices. These people need to shut the fuck up and go away. They should take a page from Volcker. Fade into the woodwork and only speak when asked, or when a dire situation in need of a true expert viewpoint is needed.

And speaking of these stale voices... Dear Mitt Romney -- go away forever. You are correct, Trump is loathed. However, you are loathed more. This seems impossible, I know. But somehow, it's true. The nation would rather elect a dishonest career politician or a buffoonish real estate developer than you. You probably don't understand this, most likely because you're a freak with not even the slightest tether to normal America, but you are "charisma anti-matter." The term "stuffed shirt" barely describes your indefatigable vacancy. You wouldn't have a drink with anyone because you can't, but even if you could, no one alive would choose to have one with you. You suck, Mitt. And if you go to the GOP convention and run your mouth off, unlike all the others, you will deserve the tooth-scattering beating you're likely to get from the Trumpkins in the hotel lobby. ...One can only hope it will prevent you from ever appearing publicly again, but this is probably unrealistic. You can't help thinking you deserved to win in 2012. And you couldn't be more wrong. Outside a small cabal of yes men in your campaign, the entirety of the nation understood from before the first vote was cast, Obama was going to beat you like a pinata.

Replaced_Texan 03-25-2016 01:05 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499805)
Seriously? Are you fucking nuts?

FWIW, that was one of the funniest things I read all day yesterday.:D

Not Bob 03-25-2016 01:19 PM

Re: Foreman says these jobs are going boys, and they ain't coming back.
 
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Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 499803)
Look, I'm with you. But anything can happen before the election. If there is a large terrorist attack the week before the election, there would be a real danger of us suffering through 4 years of President Trump. Jesus. My stomach just churned at the thought.

TM

Exactly. I'd prefer it if he destroyed the GOP be Not Getting the nomination at a contested conversation. Or even a Not Contested convention. The risk is just too great.

Not Bob 03-25-2016 01:33 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499805)
Seriously? Are you fucking nuts?

Oh, sure, amigo, to the typical minivan driving, cautiously reliable Ernest out there, plastic is soooo convenient and quick. Well, fine. Heck, when I need to put some petrol in the Deutschmobile, I'll let Hayden's jackboots know that I paid Big Ed's Fina station $47.50 for some high octane, a Cherry Coke Slushy, and a Slim Jim.

But to cats like me and Sebby, swinging free and easy in our Hickey Freeman suits while surrendering to the soft alcoholism that is our genetic lot in life (thanks, Great-Grandpa Seamus, you spud-digging evil bastard!) by swilling Woodford at the Brigham Young Atrium Downtown Omaha with a few divorcees after yet another meaningless corp rep deposition ... uh, where was I? Oh. Yes, Comrade Slothrop, to cats like us, cash is king sometimes.

Replaced_Texan 03-25-2016 02:16 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Sidd Finch (Post 499804)
Without any doubt this is the greatest sentence that I will read all day. I might as well go home and play Halo for the next 14 hours.

This day is awesome. http://gawker.com/a-trump-supporter-...lee-1767089421

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 02:46 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan (Post 499812)

I doubt this is true, but I hope somehow it is. If Cruz were knocked out, he'd give his delegates to Kasich. Rubio would then do the same. Kasich would get the nomination and we'd have a sane person sunning against a sane person. Imagine fucking that!

Of course, this all assumes Comey doesn't resign. Yep. That's a risk. Hillary will not be indicted, but there is talk Comey is fuming and may resign if she's not indicted. This sort of scandal, along with a still technically viable and resilient Sanders campaign could leave us with Bernie v. Kasich. Still, sane v. sane.

sebastian_dangerfield 03-25-2016 03:04 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 499811)
Oh, sure, amigo, to the typical minivan driving, cautiously reliable Ernest out there, plastic is soooo convenient and quick. Well, fine. Heck, when I need to put some petrol in the Deutschmobile, I'll let Hayden's jackboots know that I paid Big Ed's Fina station $47.50 for some high octane, a Cherry Coke Slushy, and a Slim Jim.

But to cats like me and Sebby, swinging free and easy in our Hickey Freeman suits while surrendering to the soft alcoholism that is our genetic lot in life (thanks, Great-Grandpa Seamus, you spud-digging evil bastard!) by swilling Woodford at the Brigham Young Atrium Downtown Omaha with a few divorcees after yet another meaningless corp rep deposition ... uh, where was I? Oh. Yes, Comrade Slothrop, to cats like us, cash is king sometimes.

It's the simplest logic. Anyone wishing to erode your privacy or further monitor you, in even the smallest fashion, is taking something significant from you, which makes him an enemy (or at least adverse to your interests). The best advantage you have with any enemy or person acting adversely toward you is what he doesn't know about you. We all rarely use cash, but in what circumstance is there ever any benefit to conceding a possible advantage? You never know when you might need it, or benefit from it. Options = Strength. Giving them away is illogical.

Adder 03-25-2016 03:13 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499813)
I doubt this is true, but I hope somehow it is. If Cruz were knocked out, he'd give his delegates to Kasich. Rubio would then do the same. Kasich would get the nomination and we'd have a sane person sunning against a sane person. Imagine fucking that!

Of course, this all assumes Comey doesn't resign. Yep. That's a risk. Hillary will not be indicted, but there is talk Comey is fuming and may resign if she's not indicted. This sort of scandal, along with a still technically viable and resilient Sanders campaign could leave us with Bernie v. Kasich. Still, sane v. sane.

Kasich is only sane in relative terms in that party, but yeah. Delegates for Cruz+Rubio+Kasich would lead Trump 777-754. But I'm not sure the two drop outs can bind their delegates to Kasich (don't know) and not sure that Trump couldn't overcome that lead in the remaining primaries, where he would likely pummel Kasich.

Also: the email thing is a non-scandal. As usual.

But it did get me reading this, which is sort of fun. Let's look at some bits:

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Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia, knows the laws regarding classified information firsthand. ...He says Clinton’s actions in the e-mail scandal clearly satisfy all five requirements necessary to sustain charges of mishandling classified material
Oh really? Well, if Cucc, who is clearly an unbiased expert commentator says so...

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Clinton obtained and created “documents and materials containing classified information” through her work at the State Department.
Or, obtained materials that were not marked as such and only became deemed to be years later as they were reviewed for release amidst controversy.

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Clinton “knowingly removed such documents or materials.” Cuccinelli points out that she actually committed this crime on a significant scale three separate times: First, by setting up her e-mail system to route messages to and through her unsecured server, then by moving the server to Platte River Networks, a private company, in June of 2013, and then by transferring the server’s contents to her private lawyers in 2014.
It's pretty hard to "knowingly" remove classified materials that are not yet classified, which none of these were as of the time of any of those actions.

ETA: Okay, I moved through this too fast. So, Cucc, that first time, that can't be "knowing" because there aren't yet any materials, much less classified ones. I'm not expert in this area of law, but I'm pretty confident that "knowing" does not mean having perfect foresight of the future. The second and third, what I said before.

Not Bob 03-25-2016 03:14 PM

Re: Hey Sebby!
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499814)
It's the simplest logic. Anyone wishing to erode your privacy or further monitor you, in even the smallest fashion, is taking something significant from you, which makes him an enemy (or at least adverse to your interests). The best advantage you have with any enemy or person acting adversely toward you is what he doesn't know about you. We all rarely use cash, but in what circumstance is there ever any benefit to conceding a possible advantage? You never know when you might need it, or benefit from it. Options = Strength. Giving them away is illogical.

Despite my riff, I actually agree with you that getting rid of cash is a ridiculously bad idea. Although I admit to a little paranoia, my major reason is that it would just lead to the poor being screwed even more than they are now. I'm too lazy to google, but some scummy employers are already paying their workers with prepaid debit cards that - shocker! - charge the employees a fee that in part - shocker redux! - gets paid to the employer. And most banks have fees and costs that disproportionately hit the poor. (I'm looking at you, BoA, and the way you game your overdraft policies to bounce checks that don't need to be bounced in order to create a profit center.) The unbanked will be even further screwed in the Brave New Cashless World.

To the ramparts!

ThurgreedMarshall 03-25-2016 03:24 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 499813)
Kasich would get the nomination and we'd have a sane person sunning against a sane person.

Relatively speaking.

TM

Not Bob 03-25-2016 03:26 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Adder (Post 499815)
Kasich is only sane in relative terms in that party, but yeah. Delegates for Cruz+Rubio+Kasich would lead Trump 777-754. But I'm not sure the two drop outs can bind their delegates to Kasich (don't know) and not sure that Trump couldn't overcome that lead in the remaining primaries, where he would likely pummel Kasich.

Also: the email thing is a non-scandal. As usual.

But it did get me reading this, which is sort of fun. Let's look at some bits:



Oh really? Well, if Cucc, who is clearly an unbiased expert commentator says so...



Or, obtained materials that were not marked as such and only became deemed to be years later as they were reviewed for release amidst controversy.



It's pretty hard to "knowingly" remove classified materials that are not yet classified, which none of these were as of the time of any of those actions.

ETA: Okay, I moved through this too fast. So, Cucc, that first time, that can't be "knowing" because there aren't yet any materials, much less classified ones. I'm not expert in this area of law, but I'm pretty confident that "knowing" does not mean having perfect foresight of the future. The second and third, what I said before.

The shifting focus of this investigation of Hillary (8 or so different consecutively disproved theories as to why she permitted the death of Ambassador Stevens even though she could have stopped it; followed by State's refusal to provide emails; followed by "holy shit she had a private server!"; followed by ....) reminds me of the shifting theories of Robert Fiske and Ken Starr regarding Whitewater.

Consequently, I am convinced that it will come out (heh) that Hilary Clinton gave Anthony Weiner a blowjob and that Huma made him keep and save the navy blazer from Gap with the physical evidence.

Hank Chinaski 03-25-2016 03:47 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Not Bob (Post 499818)

Consequently, I am convinced that it will come out (heh) that Hilary Clinton gave Anthony Weiner a blowjob

the original notbob would never write anything so fresh. that notbob posted assuming his wife will one day find and read his posts, so he kept safe.

Pretty Little Flower 03-25-2016 04:02 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 499819)
the original notbob would never write anything so fresh. that notbob posted assuming his wife will one day find and read his posts, so he kept safe.

These are crazy times. The world is upside down. Not Bob is making blow job jokes, and Sebastian and I are wondering how we are going to buy big bags of green when fat people outlaw Benjamins. Time to slow down, close your eyes, and discover how the Meters can squeeze more funk out of the spaces between the notes than most groups can put into the notes themselves. It's all going to be o.k. The Daily Dose is Cardova:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83do2qf6JEs

Not Bob 03-25-2016 04:03 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 499819)
the original notbob would never write anything so fresh. that notbob posted assuming his wife will one day find and read his posts, so he kept safe.

Agreed. The character's personality really changed when Dick Sergeant took over from Dick York.

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Oliver_Wendell_Ramone 03-25-2016 04:54 PM

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 
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Originally Posted by Pretty Little Flower (Post 499820)
These are crazy times. The world is upside down. Not Bob is making blow job jokes, and Sebastian and I are wondering how we are going to buy big bags of green when fat people outlaw Benjamins. Time to slow down, close your eyes, and discover how the Meters can squeeze more funk out of the spaces between the notes than most groups can put into the notes themselves. It's all going to be o.k. The Daily Dose is Cardova:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83do2qf6JEs

FWIW, while most Oregon dispensaries remain cash-only, a few have somehow figured out a way to accept credit cards. I've yet to see where the big bank lists my weed purchases in its annual by-category accounting.


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