Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Hold on. It is coming. Or maybe a global war. Although I can't root for either.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

2009 CIA est = 0.655%, on an estimated population of 1.338B

India, meanwhile is est at 1.548%, on a population of 1.166B

Which, with steady growth rates, makes India more populous than China in about 15 years.

Also, USA rate = 0.975%; Pakistan 1.947%; Nigeria 1.999%.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

I can't speak for the other cult, but we Catholics don't observe any of that "no birth control" horseshit. Ever since the Wasps let us into golf courses, we've had other, more vulgar expenses to focus on.

Then again, I'm Catholic like Little Richard is masculine.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Universal health care is a Darwinian nightmare. Not saying it's a reason not to do it. Just sayin' it's going to make the lines at 7Eleven a whole lot longer than they already are.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Speak for yourself. I'm unlike him with next to zero effort.

Re: Aig
 

Poor guy. His company hit the shitter hard, the taxpayers have to bail it out, and the guy only gets $250,000 in salary. My heart is breaking.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Either that, or it will lead to a greater distribution of available resources, and make the limitations of those resources more palatable. It's possible that people at large will see more justice in knowing that some people will die of heart disease because there are a limited number of donors that in hearing that more poor people will die of heart disease because they can't afford the transplant and the Catholics in Pennsylvania are more interested in paying their golf club dues than they are in paying for universal health care.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

And, although I didn't say it, I was referring to the proselytizing/recruitment efforts of those religions in third-world countries, adding to generally already higher birth rates there.

Re: Aig
 

Someone was explaining to me how tough it is to live in NYC on a $250,000 salary and $1 million bonus.

Do you want Joe I-Banker to default on his mortgages? Put his kid in public school?

Re: Aig
 

Didn't most of the AIGFP guys work/live in CT? Anti-alligator protection is expensive.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Be strong about your convictions. Just because they make you a social pariah doesn't mean you are wrong. In fact, I would argue the contrary. The more people who agree on something, the more likely it is wrong. See, e.g. pop culture.

Re: Aig
 

Fuck him. He can sell the place in the Hamptons and rent a cottage in Cape May until the market comes back.

Re: Aig
 

Alligator? Okay, there's half of their meat budget right there. The guy should be able to keep the place in the Hamptons after all.

Re: Aig
 

I like it grilled over mesquite. Nice with some napalito salsa.

Re: Aig
 

Finacial types being "overpaid" seems to me to be another issue alltogether.

Re: Aig
 

He can't sell the place in the Hamptons. Credit markets are frozen.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Huh? You were the one advocating a need for population reduction. I said things would be okay.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

You said nature would take care of the need, but wouldn't you wouldn't root for that to happen. Thurgreed has my proxy on this.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

People in countries like Italy are a little more Catholic than that, and they've still managed to avoid having babies lately.

I'm guessing it's birth control, but it could be diet -- I'm always too tired to fuck after a big plate of lasagne.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

I said that your fears of severe problems of overpopulation don't make sense because nature has ways of avoiding severe overpopulation, including emigration, the collective effects of individual reactions to local conditions, and declines in growth rates that correlate with increased prosperity.

I also said that there are more extreme types of correction as well, but unlike you, I don't root for them, even though one can safely predict that they are likely.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Last stat I saw was that 76% of Catholics use some sort of birth control in the US. I suspect that number is much higher in actual Catholic countries like Spain and Italy, where they're actually concerned about not enough babies being born. The Catholic places that don't put a high stock in birth control are poor countries, with high childhood mortality. I suspect that those populations would have had lots of babies regardless of religion.

Re: Aig
 

You talking to Sebby again?

Amen to That
 

This guy has my proxy on George Bush and the Republicans for the last eight years, and Obama and the Democrats for the last two months:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6...layer_embedded

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

I guess. Either way, I'm not joining a golf club.

Re: Amen to That
 

And our best firebrands are who? Henry Waxman? Maxine Waters? Barney Frank? Would the average congressman even know how to spell perfunctory?

Re: Aig
 

Sebby said he could probably live on just a million a year but for the taxes.

Re: Amen to That
 

I thought something similar. We fail so miserably in comparison when it comes to oratory. Tony Blair sold the same snake oil as Bush, but he made you want to buy it.

Re: Amen to That
 

They're better trained at oratory over there. I used to watch debates at the Oxford Union Society when I was over there, and those were absolutely marvelous. Stinging, cutting remarks that hit with savage accuracy flying back and forth that were actually addressing the issue at hand. It was a true spectator sport, and the auditorium would be packed for them. Was wonderful to watch.

I'm still a member as far as I know. If we ever happen to be at Oxford at the same time, I'll be happy to take you.

Re: Aig
 

One of the partners here lives within 10 minutes of 5 AIG execs (or something silly like that) and he says there were bus tours of their houses last week, picking up and dropping people off to protest their greed. Thing was, they didn't work for the FP unit and actually work for the insurance division. Supposedly they have armed guards to protect them and their families, paid for by the company.

People are fucking stupid.

TM

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Garfield? You scamp.

TM

Re: Amen to That
 

I had never heard of the guy and just spent some time reading his blog. I found his take on Obama similar to mine:

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Were you the guy sitting in the front of the class in law school who wanted to engage the professor on every hypothetical, would wait for him after class to follow up and who actually went to office hours to chat some more?

TM

Re: Amen to That
 

They also have the advantage that their posh accents sound smart to Americans. Even when they are your colleagues and you know they are mostly talking nonesense.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

In short, no. I rarely if ever spoke in class, had no idea where any professor's offices were and never visited them, and to my recollection only spoke to one of them outside of class once, when he bought us all booze.

Re: Amen to That
 

Hardly surprising, as every asshole high enough up the chain to ask for one demands an executive summary of everything, or prefers to text a stream of characters approximating what we'd say were our language to be series of a dozen or so odd grunts, snorts and shrugs.

Text me? Fuck you. Have the decency to call and interact like a human, you self important asshole.*

*Excepting, of course, situations where one of us is in a loud bar and can't hear the other.

Re: Amen to That
 

What the fuck is with Geithner dropping all the "g"s? I'm hardly a snob about these things, but he sounds like a goddamn rube. I get that he probably has Aspergers, but that doesn't excuse mangling the fucking language.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

And the louder a person advocates something, the less sound the proposition. This shrillness, however, inevitably self-corrects. Near the top, a shrewd charlatan suggests that instead of relying on volume, the snake oil salesmen pushing the rotten idea should argue that getting behind it is a matter of "faith." This is where you then get the rancid underbelly of this country. Where you get the incurious minds that care nothing for oratory, or science, and get titanium hard-ons for things like pre-emptive wars.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

god save the queen , she ain't a human being.


no future no future no future no future no future for you

Re: Amen to That
 

And for an English political orator, he had a mouthful of marbles.

That lunatic Galloway gives an amazing interview. Batshit crazy, but that's beside the point.

Re: worst President ever hits bottom, starts digging
 

Ever heard Johnny Rotten interviewed? He's got more coherence and a deeper vocabulary than half the farm animals in the House of Representatives. And I'd take Malcolm McLaren in a debate over seventy percent of the Senate.