Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

Uh...That's highly unfair.

TM

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

Outside of Joy Reid, is there anyone on cable who does smart anymore?

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

Ha! I use Trader Joe's chili when I do that. And it's usually the other way around - shirt but no pants. Just like Porky Pig.

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

You dress like a pig to eat pork? That is some twisted shit right there.

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

I put beef in my chili.

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

oh, hence no pants....

For Less...
 

Beef bologna?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Frud5RFtTi0

Re: For Less...
 

Or perhaps a Hearty Beef Party?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPgMrn60E2w

Wow
 

Is it just me or is this a major issue that no one seems to be paying attention to?

http://bigstory.ap.org/581d6394e0684b5d89c01ba66f074f03

"Longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone told The Associated Press Wednesday that he believes his own online exchanges with a Russian-linked hacker were obtained through a special warrant that allows the government to collect the communications of people suspected of being agents of a foreign nation. Stone communicated through Twitter direct messages with Guccifer 2.0, a hacker who has claimed responsibility for breaching the Democratic National Committee.

Stone said he was unaware at the time that U.S. officials believed the hacker had ties to Russia."

How does this not end up with Stone in jail? I think a huge case is being built very carefully right now and the FBI is stalling the senate judiciary committee because they don't want to reveal what they have yet.

Anyone?

TM

Re: Wow
 

On the one hand, I think a huge case can be built, on the other, I think a lot of people who ought to be focused laser-like on this haven't been, and some of the delay may be CYA as the FBI and others do the work they should have done eight or nine months ago. Remember, the FBI put more people on Clinton's emails than on the Russia investigation.

I'm deeply worried that there may be some people who are complicit in the FBI as well as in the administration.

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

Uhh, the thread was about firing employees with guns and the post was about how FIL ducked and covered from a dude the day before he went off with a gun. So, in context totally fair.

Maybe it sounded really really bad and wasn't what happened -- but it sounded really really bad.

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

I don't get why it sounded bad. There are situations where if some dude comes to your office and asks for you, and you weren't expecting him and don't know who he is, it's kosher to decline come out to meet him. That's what happened.

Re: Wow
 

Not sure why you think this necessarily ends poorly for Stone. What's his crime?

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

When the story was related it was in the context of firing employees. Not some unknown dude. Totally different.

The way the story came off it was like, fired dude came back looked for his boss, and couldn't find him, and . . .

Re: Wow
 

No prosecutor debases himself by going after that guy.

His existence is arguably criminal. US v. Universe, No. 373547-Crim-2017

Re: For Less...
 

"Rowdy punks — including Belushi, then–Minor Threat frontman Ian MacKaye and the Cro-Mags' Harley Flanagan and John Joseph — moshed and stormed the stage as the group played "Let's Have a War." It didn't go the way NBC had hoped..." http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...-fear-20150910

The record holds up. It shouldn't. And I shouldn't be pulling it out of the dusty cd rack to stick in the iTunes, but... Fuck you! Now their entire catalog will jammed in my head for a week.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

Keep singing that lullaby to yourself. It's doing more than bloviating that'll sink him. So long as he merely telecasts and spins, he's fine and dandy.

His big problem is this ACA replacement. That's actual policy. The battle there is going to be pitched -- on how, exactly, for both parties to punt the ugly cuts to a future date where each can blame the other entirely.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

This was missed by almost all the critics. She actually played the story perfectly.

The media is still missing the story, amazingly. Even if he lived thru the business as most do (and lord knows, he was probably as aggressive as fuck putting personal expenses above the line), that's not $5bil worth income. Not at all.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

I agree with all of this. I think the ACA replacement might actually stick. I don't think Russia, or conflicts of interest or Muslim ban or not denouncing antisemitism or pussygrabbing or cutting funding for the EPA or Betsy Devos (what have I missed) will stick. But ACA replacement, because it might have consequences in the short-term for voters, could be an actual problem for Trump that he can't spin.

Re: Wow
 

I imagine if he's requesting this guy to hack the DNC and release information, that would make him a conspirator in a crime, no?

TM

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

I don't think it sounds bad. If someone I thought was a looney specifically wanted to see me after being fired from my firm, I sure as hell wouldn't go out and talk to him. If he didn't make an outright threat, there is no reason to go to the police and no reason to think he wants to do anyone harm other than me. But if he completely cracks and shoots people a different day, I would have no problem telling people I dodged a bullet.

Why is that bad? Am I supposed to keep him on because he's crazy? Am I supposed to tell the police I think he might be violent and nuts when the only evidence I have is that he requested to see me after being fired? Am I supposed to feel guilt because his misplaced anger resulted in others dying? Am I not supposed to tell the story because I didn't die but others did? I don't get it.

TM

Re: Wow
 

Yes, agreed. I'm just wouldn't think that he said that.

Re: Let me just add my echo to the chamber
 

For the FOURTH time. The. Context. Was. FIRED. Employees. With. Guns.

If there was any thought this guy had a firearm and would use it and someone does duck and cover in an office, the blood of six innocent people is on that person's hands. If someone can't see the difficulty here, there is no hope.

AGAIN for the FOURTH time, after the gun context, it came out that that was NOT the case. This was a random nut looking to talk to a random FIL, the random person being as random and as nutty as the guy you see screaming on a train.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

The hardcore Rust/Coal/Bible/Oxycontin Belt Trump voters love their govt benefits. Trump is playing with serious fire here.

If the Dems were serious gamers, they'd let the bill pass as it is. Don't touch it. Let it be all his, and Paul Ryan's, and let it sink both the GOP Congress and Trump.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

2005 was an apparent low ebb in his alleged wealth claims,

Re: Wow
 

Then Trump would've also been a conspirator in a crime, for having encouraged Putin to release Hillary's hacked emails.

Telling someone you want them to do something illegal is not criminally conspiring. You have to take some action of your own. For instance, if Stone told Guccifer he'd give him something in exchange for the hack, and he did so, you'd have conspiracy.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

Tom Cruise has had years of similar income.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

If my FIL had two wheels and a carbon frame, he'd be a bicycle.

Re: Wow
 

Wait, what happened to, she's a Clinton, she must be guilty of something?

These are conversations with known Russian agents. There is a transcript somewhere.

In other news, further Flynn lies about Russian ties are coming out today. Lock her up, indeed.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

How do the Republicans handle their healthcare mess?

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

If past practice is any indication, with dignity and aplomb.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

I have eaten
aplomb
that was in
the icebox

and which
you were probably
saving
for breakfast

Forgive me
it was delicious
so sweet
and so cold

Re: Quick, Blame Somebody!
 

It's not THEIR healthcare mess.

Re: Quick, Blame Somebody!
 

I'm talking about the politics of their proposal, not policy. I don't think the legislation is going anywhere. They don't have enough Republican votes -- conservatives want to push it one way, and moderates wanted to push it the other. A strong President might be able to bring the party around, but Trump is the opposite of this. Also, he doesn't really care about the policy and is figuring out that the proposal is a loser. Legislators aren't going to sign on if they think he's going to jump ship. But if and when it fails, there'll be a price to pay. Does Ryan lose his job over this?

Re: Quick, Blame Somebody!
 

That's what I'm talking about. They will be looking for someone to blame. Blame Obama. Blame the Dems. Blame the Press.

The problem with Ryan losing his job is, who is going to take it? The bills is being hit from all sides, it's not like it's getting trounced because the Freedom Caucus is feeling its oats.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

Blame Obama.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

Great idea (but for all the people dying because, although they have "access" to life-sustaining drugs and whatnot, they can't actually afford them).

Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper.
 

And a jaunty, devil-may-care smile - like Hank's avatar.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

Hey, it got them this far.

Re: I used to be disgusted, and now I try to be amused.
 

God damn, you are such a moist empathy pussy.

It's James Brown Thursday on the Daily Dose. Here is a sprawling riff workout called "More Peas."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW6SW5GUCzE