Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

go to www.realclearpolitics.com unbiased gatherer of polls. Cruz trails Hil by 2%. Rubio is beating her by 6%. Bernie is doing better against both. Cruz + anything bad for Hil and he could win.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

I think people are focused on Trump right now, but as soon as they turn their attention to Cruz, he gets hammered. I can't see how anyone who is as far right as Cruz on absolutely every issue wins in a national election.

I think people on the left will turn out en masse when they realize who Cruz is (if he wins the primary).

But thanks for answering. I am genuinely fascinated by your posts.

TM

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Again, I don't put a lot of stock in these polls so early on (especially this year). I think people who are turned off by Trump are willing to say they'd vote for Cruz right now. But when he's the only option and they find out that he's to the right of Hitler on every issue, Hillary wins all but the reddest of states.

TM

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Way to early to put much stock in general election head-to-heads.

Also what TM said.

Finally: Antonin Scalia School of Law.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

It's kind of early in the cycle to put too much stock into polls, especially national ones. In fact, I think that national polls are pretty meaningless - John Kerry and Mitt Romney both had leads in national polls during 2004 and 2012, IIRC.

It's all about the electoral votes. If Cruz is within the margin of air against Hilary in Florida or Ohio, that's a different kettle of fish.

Eta: Jesus Christ, this place really is an echo-chamber. Put me down in the "national poll numbers are meaningless; it's all about 270" side of the Libtard Coalition.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

I'm not sure how much these numbers matter -- as George W Bush showed, you can lose the popular vote and still win.

Cruz is most popular in Texas, and I imagine that in Texas Trump has recently gone from being unpopular to hated. The shift from "Trump v." to "Cruz v." in a Texas poll alone could move the national needle in percentage terms, while being meaningless in electoral terms.

eta: I attribute my being last to post the same thing to my effort to find some useful state-by-state numbers

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Jesus Christ, indeed! Praise the good lord, end let His music echo through this chamber. Today's Daily Dose is by the early Herbie Hancock backing band, The Headhunters. A straight up funk cut with the Pointer Sisters as backing vocals. "God Made Me Funky"! Word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGmNgS4wj4E

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

Between now and november, anything can happen and anyone, even trump, can win.

Back when Dukakis was running for President, at this time in the cycle a couple of his top campaign people were taking short breaks to look for houses in DC.

Yeahhhhhh.......

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

I am happy to engage here, even though I know no one is on my "side". Truth be told, I was banned (twice!) from the politics threads at various mommy boards. I figure the posters here (and moderators) are significantly more able to handle rational discussion of issues.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

Put up some gory terrorism pix and see how able the mod is to handle discussion.

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Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

anything a lib posts is fine. you should have used your diane keaton sock then it would be deleted.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

So will the moderate swing voters, like me. Cruz v Hillary? No-brainer. She's the easy centrist.

Cruz is the most dangerous candidate of the bunch. He's diabolical, ruthless, and knows the game. Trump is 10X better (God, did I just say that? Yes, I did.). Trump's hopeless and would run a shit show for four years and then be thrown out of office by the greatest margin in election history. So would Cruz, but the damage he'd do in the interim would haunt us for generations.

Thankfully, it's all academic. The only people who can beat Hillary are Kasich and Trump. And Trump is fucking it up just like you knew he would.

Fuck the polls. And fuck the media trying to make Cruz look like a contender. That's a bunch of paid-for McJournalists holding the GOP Establishment's water and looking to create a horse race to cover.

The GOP Establishment would rather lose to Hillary, who they know will govern something like a Rockefeller Republican, than give the party away to populists. A Cruz nomination, at this point, is a win for them. They get to sacrifice a staggering dickhead they'd sought to be rid of for years.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

I lean libertarian and have voted usually R, but not infrequently D. But when you support Cruz, I can't help but think you've lost your mind. He's not just an atrocious candidate. He's a full on sociopath. He's not hated because he's bucking the GOP Establishment. If you know anyone in DC, you know -- he's hated because he'd kill his children for political gain. The man is rotten, wrong, and disturbed to his core.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

Sebastian, you are writing about a man she would like to "know." I don't disagree with a word of your post, but I nonetheless ask you to speak in a more moderate tone. A women's heart is involved here.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

he just said Cruz was a vile sociopath, not that he wasn't fuckable. I mean Paig's fucked slave with her eyes wide open; the heart wants what the heart wants.

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You . . . were there?????? This is far more sordid than I had previously imagined.

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I. Am. Paigow. Slave's penis is abnormally large given that he is abnormally small.

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I never said he'd be a bad fuck.

Just don't be surprised when he pulls a Frank Booth.*

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* 30th Anniversary.

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They say Lou Reed was too far ahead of the curve. Biafra's looking 100% accurate from three decades plus deep.

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If you aren't fucking Ted with your eyes open, well...

Fuck it. Ted, Just Admit It.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

I don't know. That abortion comment was too stupid for a guy who's played the reproductive rights issue so carefully through the campaign. I'm getting the sense he might be taking a dive.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

I'm 55 years old and I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils. I will not support a candidate I don't think is fit for the job. The biggest problem with our democracy is the degree to which we tolerate mediocrity. I'm done. If the Dems or the Republicans want my vote for a candidate, they can nominate someone worth voting for or I will pick my own candidate.

The problem isn't people choosing what you call protest votes. The problem is that the parties keep giving us shit choices.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

I'm not saying she would be as bad as Trump or Cruz. I'm saying she's just not good enough. I also thought I made it clear there is a huge difference between the two fascists and Hilary. If not, let me make it clear now. I think that either Trump or Cruz have the potential (and perhaps even the intent) to bring us to the brink of a complete breakdown of the social order. Hilary is not that malevolent. I just don't see her embracing the kind of material change we need. Things like bringing back Glass-Steagall, finding a way to make single-payer healthcare a winnable proposition, investing in infrastructure through a public works program, and integrating the corporate and individual tax as part of massive tax reform.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

I have to confess I hadn't seen her talking about taking those steps. I find that encouraging. I particularly would be impressed if I saw her saying more about how too big to fail is too big to exist. I also like what she's saying about sending criminal corporate officers to jail.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

I shudder at the thought of either Trump or Cruz nominating anyone to the Court. But that doesn't mean I'm going to put up with mediocrity on the Democratic side of the ballot. That mindset needs to change.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

Where did I say I was voting for Cruz or Trump? Where did I even say I am at all comfortable with either of them in the White House?

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

Poor baby -- you have to choose between the candidates who are actually in, rather than writing in Santa Claus.

Get a grip on yourself.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

Actually, you said they would be the same. Then you walked it back a bit, claiming it was hyperbole. It was not hyperbole, it was utter nonsense.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

I'm not sure how the two are related. Inversions are tax evasion, pure and simple. How does that lead to increased investment in the US?

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

You didn't. You said you would cast a wasteful protest vote. Like the Nader supporters did.

And you made it clear that you are more comfortable with either of them in the White House, then you are with tarnishing yourself by voting for Clinton if she's the Dem nominee.

And if there are enough idiots like you, you can bask in your ideological purity while watching Ted Cruz nominate 1/3 of the SCOTUS. Fool.



Remember when SEC Chick said that, if Trump were the nominee, she would vote Libertarian? She acknowledged that, if enough Republicans thought like her, they would be putting Clinton in the White House. And she consciously said that this was a choice she was happier with. You should learn something from her integrity, and have the balls to admit the meaning of what you are saying. Especially since you and she might end up supporting President Cruz.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

I like Bernie. I'm less enthusiastic about Hilary. But as the election approaches I will be revisiting her positions and hoping to find things to like.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

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Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

Wow. Just, wow.

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Bye Felicia.

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In a two-party system, at the end you only get two choices. If you decline to vote for the one you think is better, you're making it more likely that the other, the worse one, will win. If that makes you feel better, that's a little odd, but I suppose it's good for you.

eta: We are all too focused on the Presidential campaign. It really matters who controls Congress.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

Perhaps it's a vote in favor of a different system with more than two parties.

Re: As the choppers hover outside my window
 

There has been a ton of ink spilled by the conservative media in the can for Trump (Breitbart, half of Fox News, Drudge, etc.) blaming NeverTrumpers for a potential loss to Hillary. My reaction is that if Trump loses in a general election to Hillary the fault will be his, not mine, because he is such an odious person that I cannot in good conscience even hold my nose and vote for him. He has not won my vote by his failure to even recognize, much less hold, any conservative positions (see his response re: abortion that made Todd Akin look like a pro at handling the issue).

I am not necessarily saying I would prefer Hillary as president, as I haven't fully thought that through (they are probably equally bad in my view), but I am saying that her being president is preferable to the stain on my conscience I would have if I were to support Trump.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

There is actually a libertarian debate tonight (and I believe another is next week). It is John Stossel's show on Fox Business.

Re: Is Ted Cruz Satan? Discuss.
 

It was probably all the X-rated Cruz fan fiction you were posting. That shit will get you banned anywhere toot motherfuckin' sweet.

TM