Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield (Post 478123)

That's conventional wisdom? We either have the evidence or we don't. (I guess someone could be misreading something, or have misplaced a file containing all the dispositive evidence... but those guys with telescopes are really fucking smart.)

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 478127)

"intelligent" life.

Originally Posted by Atticus Grinch (Post 478108)

You inserted the modifier "intelligent." Is that necessary to your argument?

I anticipate (not "believe"; anticipate) that there is matter capable of self-replication elsewhere in the universe. I also anticipate that bipedal, bilaterally symmetrical carbon-based humanoids that are universally described by 20th-21st century alien encounterists starting, by some enormous coincidence, exactly during the Jet Age are utter horseshit. I anticipate our peculiar brand of intelligence is an adaptation to our environment, which is staggeringly unlikely to exist in precisely this form anywhere else. Whether there are clouds of plasma capable of what we consider consciousness is a matter of doubt, although given the vast distances necessary to get the math for infinite alternate environments, on the timescales of human civilization from inception to destruction I doubt we'll ever be in contact with any of them, or that we would ever realize it if we had.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 478109)

translation: Every week i pray to the baby Jesus.

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 478125)

Are you looking for a fucking equation? If so you're on the wrong board (and you know it).

TM

Originally Posted by Did you just call me Coltrane? (Post 478132)

Originally Posted by ltl/fb (Post 478134)

Does anyone want to do the thing where you get points or whatever for referring a friend?

Originally Posted by Adder (Post 478127)

Neil deGrasse Tyson seems to think there is life out there, so I'll go with that.

ETA: Not sure what he thinks about "intelligent" life.

Originally Posted by ThurgreedMarshall (Post 478126)

SKIP IF YOU ARE SQUEAMISH

Worse. Theismann's was a clean break as a result of LT coming down on it. Ware's tibia and fibula just seemed to shatter, with breaks in multiple spots. His bones came way out of the skin and it seemed as if his skin was the only thing that kept the lower part of his leg and foot from being separated from the upper part altogether.

TM

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 478137)

Most of us here believe that life began not from a creator, but just began. There is a theory that a primordial ooze had a mix of chemicals that has been recreated in a lab. Scientists have been able to create proteins from the mix. This required some long odds though. Then the proteins could come to life if struck by lightening, although this would only be a one in a billion chance (I'm making up the numbers, but not the concept). so that by the time you get to there being organisms moving around, it's a trillion to 1 shot, BUT there are 10 trillion stars, so the odds aren't that long.

To me that math says there are other planets with life, or that the odds are in favor (of course every estimate is a crap shoot too ).

One there are organisms, intelligent life doesn't seem a stretch to me, evolution gets you to that.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 478137)

Most of us here believe that life began not from a creator, but just began. There is a theory that a primordial ooze had a mix of chemicals that has been recreated in a lab. Scientists have been able to create proteins from the mix. This required some long odds though. Then the proteins could come to life if struck by lightening, although this would only be a one in a billion chance (I'm making up the numbers, but not the concept). so that by the time you get to there being organisms moving around, it's a trillion to 1 shot, BUT there are 10 trillion stars, so the odds aren't that long.

To me that math says there are other planets with life, or that the odds are in favor (of course every estimate is a crap shoot too ).

One there are organisms, intelligent life doesn't seem a stretch to me, evolution gets you to that.

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 478137)

Most of us here believe that life began not from a creator, but just began. There is a theory that a primordial ooze had a mix of chemicals that has been recreated in a lab. Scientists have been able to create proteins from the mix. This required some long odds though. Then the proteins could come to life if struck by lightening, although this would only be a one in a billion chance (I'm making up the numbers, but not the concept). so that by the time you get to there being organisms moving around, it's a trillion to 1 shot, BUT there are 10 trillion stars, so the odds aren't that long.

To me that math says there are other planets with life, or that the odds are in favor (of course every estimate is a crap shoot too ).

One there are organisms, intelligent life doesn't seem a stretch to me, evolution gets you to that.

Originally Posted by taxwonk (Post 478139)

That's the math you were getting all aflutter over?

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski (Post 478142)

yeah, I'm not looking for anyone to calculate anything- assume what i wrote is the theory- how cannot you not believe in other planets with life being likely?